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*pdiggitydogg* · 03-12-2004, 04:00 PM

YEA! I don' play son! I don' need no shops ta put MA bushings in...I does it my damn self! You don' mess wit dis right hur.
====
Im so happy I was able to knock my mugen ta bushings in myself today...saved $80!
It was really very easy after I got the right tool...a section of pipe from the hardware store - $3
It fit right onto the bushing and w/ the aid of several large washers, and duct tape to hole them in place, I made myself a little bushing punch.
A few whacks of the hammer later and I have myself an empty hole.
Align mugen bushing...replace bushing punch...whack whack whack...bushing in place.
Good to go!

ebpda9 · 03-12-2004, 04:27 PM

good. well i am gonna do mine soon. i need to stinkin' tools for that either. i am gonna pull them with my teeth

*pdiggitydogg* · 03-12-2004, 06:00 PM

if youre doing the same bushings just do what i did...it really worked out great.

Shaved &/or Laid · 03-13-2004, 11:16 AM

i want mugen too !

oh wait. i have some.

03-15-2004, 12:15 PM

how do the mugens ride compared to the stock rubbers? How much rougher are they? Do they need constant lubrication like the poly's? Do they also last longer than the stock ones or about the same?

*pdiggitydogg* · 03-15-2004, 12:38 PM

They ride a little firmer than stock and softer than poly (theyre rubber)
They do not need constant lube
They are supposed to last longer than stock on daily driven vehicles due to the fact that the main rubber bushing is encased in a multi-layered covering (also rubber) which prevents overdrying/cracking on the inside. (Duration on competition vehicles are varied, of course)

The main thing is that they cost the same or even less than stock bushings (that you can only order through acura and not honda...dont ask me why) and still provide enough free movement. Whereas the poly's do not have full range and also run the risk of slipping out of place/sliding the pin side to side.

03-15-2004, 02:33 PM

thanks man. SO I take it u love em huh? What spring rates are u running? I had polys on 300F/250R springs and I hated them. They were rough as hell. Currently I am going with 400F/350R for my spring rates. Will mugens be too rough u think? I know polys were not to mention annoying from all the noise.

ebpda9 · 03-15-2004, 04:37 PM

hmm i never had any problems with the poly ones. and the ride is not that hards on a 350lbs spring (front) because of the bushings, but it is rought because of the 2.5" of suspension travel before you get coil bind. i love the poly

*pdiggitydogg* · 03-15-2004, 07:35 PM

I know my H&R sport rates are 330f/280r
Koni's set on the softer side most of the time
but even on the stiff end Im sure it wouldnt be that bad at all...even w/ your stiffer springs

If you ask me, I say this is a bushing that shouldve come on the cars straight from honda, not mugen. Its a good upgrade in many ways IMO.

ebpda9 · 03-15-2004, 07:57 PM

i still like my ride quality with the poly bushings, and i never heard them squeak for the past 2 years that i \had them on my car. i think most of the hondas carry the same size bushing for the strut tower.

*pdiggitydogg* · 03-15-2004, 08:42 PM

I believe thats true too...though I cant say Ive really looked at them.
Certain bushings are fine for poly, that I'll agree with. but the main TA bushings shouldnt be anything other than oe styled. Poly ones can have the pin slide and cause misalignment and they also do not provide enough movenment horizontally or vertically.

03-16-2004, 01:35 PM

sounds good. let me know how those bushings work out. I might try them eventually.

*AzCivic* · 03-16-2004, 01:59 PM

i'd like to see a pic of this tool you made.

ebpda9 · 03-16-2004, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzCivic
i'd like to see a pic of this tool you made.

after he gets a patent for it

*pdiggitydogg* · 03-16-2004, 03:41 PM

I actually threw it away in the trash today (picked up this afternoon)

it was just a section of steel pipe (around 6" long) and 10" circumference. 4-5 washers on top that were the same diamter and taped in place.

I wouldve taken pics earlier if I had known...

thermal · 03-18-2004, 10:56 PM

show pics brotha....

*pdiggitydogg* · 03-18-2004, 11:25 PM

Stock piece:
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWABlnSvtg2f

Mugen: (yes, the arm is upside down)
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWAB0KIh2RgH
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWABPLpxykfA
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWAB0X4LvFBz

Stock and Mugen comparison...notice how the mugen one is thicker and has that covering that encases both sides where the stock unit only has it on the inside of the wheel...which I think is pretty dumb
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWABMHXqx5dX

Sorry I cant show them directly...yahoo doesnt work that way

(and yes I know from one pic you can see wood grain...its not the kitchen table, its my workbench.......its an old library card catalogue that I made a base for. Its awesome)

03-12-2004, 04:00 PM	#1
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	I Dont Play YEA! I don' play son! I don' need no shops ta put MA bushings in...I does it my damn self! You don' mess wit dis right hur. ==== Im so happy I was able to knock my mugen ta bushings in myself today...saved $80! It was really very easy after I got the right tool...a section of pipe from the hardware store - $3 It fit right onto the bushing and w/ the aid of several large washers, and duct tape to hole them in place, I made myself a little bushing punch. A few whacks of the hammer later and I have myself an empty hole. Align mugen bushing...replace bushing punch...whack whack whack...bushing in place. Good to go!

03-12-2004, 04:27 PM	#2
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	good. well i am gonna do mine soon. i need to stinkin' tools for that either. i am gonna pull them with my teeth __________________

03-13-2004, 11:16 AM	#4
Shaved &/or Laid 4th Gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 38 Posts: 853	i want mugen too ! oh wait. i have some. __________________ Doody Ej1 Yse.

03-15-2004, 04:37 PM	#8
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	hmm i never had any problems with the poly ones. and the ride is not that hards on a 350lbs spring (front) because of the bushings, but it is rought because of the 2.5" of suspension travel before you get coil bind. i love the poly __________________

03-15-2004, 07:57 PM	#10
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i still like my ride quality with the poly bushings, and i never heard them squeak for the past 2 years that i \had them on my car. i think most of the hondas carry the same size bushing for the strut tower. __________________

03-12-2004, 06:00 PM	#3
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	if youre doing the same bushings just do what i did...it really worked out great.

03-15-2004, 12:15 PM	#5
Honda_Tengoku Posts: n/a	how do the mugens ride compared to the stock rubbers? How much rougher are they? Do they need constant lubrication like the poly's? Do they also last longer than the stock ones or about the same?

03-15-2004, 12:38 PM	#6
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	They ride a little firmer than stock and softer than poly (theyre rubber) They do not need constant lube They are supposed to last longer than stock on daily driven vehicles due to the fact that the main rubber bushing is encased in a multi-layered covering (also rubber) which prevents overdrying/cracking on the inside. (Duration on competition vehicles are varied, of course) The main thing is that they cost the same or even less than stock bushings (that you can only order through acura and not honda...dont ask me why) and still provide enough free movement. Whereas the poly's do not have full range and also run the risk of slipping out of place/sliding the pin side to side.

03-15-2004, 02:33 PM	#7
Honda_Tengoku Posts: n/a	thanks man. SO I take it u love em huh? What spring rates are u running? I had polys on 300F/250R springs and I hated them. They were rough as hell. Currently I am going with 400F/350R for my spring rates. Will mugens be too rough u think? I know polys were not to mention annoying from all the noise.

03-15-2004, 07:35 PM	#9
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	I know my H&R sport rates are 330f/280r Koni's set on the softer side most of the time but even on the stiff end Im sure it wouldnt be that bad at all...even w/ your stiffer springs If you ask me, I say this is a bushing that shouldve come on the cars straight from honda, not mugen. Its a good upgrade in many ways IMO.

03-15-2004, 08:42 PM	#11
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	I believe thats true too...though I cant say Ive really looked at them. Certain bushings are fine for poly, that I'll agree with. but the main TA bushings shouldnt be anything other than oe styled. Poly ones can have the pin slide and cause misalignment and they also do not provide enough movenment horizontally or vertically.

03-16-2004, 01:35 PM	#12
Honda_Tengoku Posts: n/a	sounds good. let me know how those bushings work out. I might try them eventually.

03-16-2004, 01:59 PM	#13
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	i'd like to see a pic of this tool you made.

03-16-2004, 03:41 PM	#15
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	I actually threw it away in the trash today (picked up this afternoon) it was just a section of steel pipe (around 6" long) and 10" circumference. 4-5 washers on top that were the same diamter and taped in place. I wouldve taken pics earlier if I had known...

03-18-2004, 10:56 PM	#16
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	show pics brotha.... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

03-18-2004, 11:25 PM	#17
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	Stock piece: http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWABlnSvtg2f Mugen: (yes, the arm is upside down) http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWAB0KIh2RgH http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWABPLpxykfA http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWAB0X4LvFBz Stock and Mugen comparison...notice how the mugen one is thicker and has that covering that encases both sides where the stock unit only has it on the inside of the wheel...which I think is pretty dumb http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3f5b9...9nnWABMHXqx5dX Sorry I cant show them directly...yahoo doesnt work that way (and yes I know from one pic you can see wood grain...its not the kitchen table, its my workbench.......its an old library card catalogue that I made a base for. Its awesome)

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