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IALuder · 08-15-2006, 12:29 AM

i was wondering when buying injectors if they should be high or low resistance and if you think 550cc is ideal or if i should go with a different size, any help would be great. thanks

ps power goal at the moument is 550whp.

thermal · 08-16-2006, 08:11 PM

hell no. 550cc's are too small bro. Go to the RC website. They have a flow rate and a calculator. For 550whp, I recommend a minimum of 880cc's. The biggest saturated injectors you'll find is a set of 750cc RC's. Precision makes 680cc's saturated. Anything above 750cc's for Hondas will be Peak and Hold.

IALuder · 08-17-2006, 02:53 PM

i never truely undertstood peak and hold. i got a broad idea of what it is. but can you explain?

thermal · 08-17-2006, 08:27 PM

It's really too technical for me to even describe it. I will just create more confusion. Just remember that the P/H injectors are easier to pulse under high RPM..... I think I've read that somewhere on the RC site..... it doesnt really matter as long as you have the correct injector drivers. But if dig deeper on Honda-Tech, you will notice that more people uses P/H due to higher volume output and less complex to control. All you need is a resistor box.

IALuder · 08-17-2006, 08:42 PM

hmmm i never knew you need the resistor box. i got a lot more reading to do.

thermal · 08-18-2006, 06:17 AM

YES, all P/H injectors require resistor box, unless you are using an injector driver.

IALuder · 08-18-2006, 01:20 PM

whats the best way to go? esp when making the amount of power im trying to.

which is more reliable?

JDMFantasy2k · 08-18-2006, 03:36 PM

peak and hold definately. They usually run cooler cause they peak open, and then lower the voltage to stay cool, but still hold the pintile open. As arnel said, you need a resistor box, or inline resistors to run them. There's a good comparison on the hondata website under the tech articles. Compares the heat build up of the two types.

IALuder · 08-18-2006, 03:44 PM

cool, so how much is one of these "boxes"

JDMFantasy2k · 08-18-2006, 04:07 PM

a resistor box? Just get one out of an older honda. Honda used to use peak and hold injectors. I think it was on their OBD0 cars. It looks like a wird can of altoids with some wires sticking out of it. Some people also go to radioshack and wire resistors inline with the injector clips. Not sure exactly which ones you need though.

thermal · 08-19-2006, 07:20 PM

Bro, I say get 880's or 1000's. OBD0 integras, preludes, civics/crxs for the resistor box. They are cheap.... I get them for free... junkyard donates it to me

IALuder · 08-19-2006, 08:45 PM

send me one.

thermal · 08-20-2006, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IALuder

send me one.

No time right now. I havent been in the yards in a while.

IALuder · 08-20-2006, 05:50 PM

well then PHOOIE

08-15-2006, 12:29 AM	#1
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	injectors i was wondering when buying injectors if they should be high or low resistance and if you think 550cc is ideal or if i should go with a different size, any help would be great. thanks ps power goal at the moument is 550whp. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

08-16-2006, 08:11 PM	#2
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	hell no. 550cc's are too small bro. Go to the RC website. They have a flow rate and a calculator. For 550whp, I recommend a minimum of 880cc's. The biggest saturated injectors you'll find is a set of 750cc RC's. Precision makes 680cc's saturated. Anything above 750cc's for Hondas will be Peak and Hold. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

08-17-2006, 02:53 PM	#3
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	i never truely undertstood peak and hold. i got a broad idea of what it is. but can you explain? __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

08-17-2006, 08:27 PM	#4
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	It's really too technical for me to even describe it. I will just create more confusion. Just remember that the P/H injectors are easier to pulse under high RPM..... I think I've read that somewhere on the RC site..... it doesnt really matter as long as you have the correct injector drivers. But if dig deeper on Honda-Tech, you will notice that more people uses P/H due to higher volume output and less complex to control. All you need is a resistor box. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum Last edited by thermal : 08-17-2006 at 08:31 PM.

08-17-2006, 08:42 PM	#5
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	hmmm i never knew you need the resistor box. i got a lot more reading to do. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

08-18-2006, 06:17 AM	#6
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	YES, all P/H injectors require resistor box, unless you are using an injector driver. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

08-18-2006, 01:20 PM	#7
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	whats the best way to go? esp when making the amount of power im trying to. which is more reliable? __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

08-18-2006, 03:36 PM	#8
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 37 Posts: 1,765	peak and hold definately. They usually run cooler cause they peak open, and then lower the voltage to stay cool, but still hold the pintile open. As arnel said, you need a resistor box, or inline resistors to run them. There's a good comparison on the hondata website under the tech articles. Compares the heat build up of the two types. __________________

08-18-2006, 03:44 PM	#9
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	cool, so how much is one of these "boxes" __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

08-18-2006, 04:07 PM	#10
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 37 Posts: 1,765	a resistor box? Just get one out of an older honda. Honda used to use peak and hold injectors. I think it was on their OBD0 cars. It looks like a wird can of altoids with some wires sticking out of it. Some people also go to radioshack and wire resistors inline with the injector clips. Not sure exactly which ones you need though. __________________

08-19-2006, 07:20 PM	#11
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	Bro, I say get 880's or 1000's. OBD0 integras, preludes, civics/crxs for the resistor box. They are cheap.... I get them for free... junkyard donates it to me __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

08-19-2006, 08:45 PM	#12
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	send me one. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

08-20-2006, 05:50 PM	#14
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	well then PHOOIE __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

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