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TeriyakiBroccoli · 09-20-2002, 01:27 AM

:P

I own a civic LX (sadly), and I was wondering if there was any difference between a short ram and regular cold air other than size...

some say, the short ram doesn't produce more power/sux...

Its considerably cheaper in some places, so whats your input?

94_AcCoRd_EX · 09-20-2002, 01:40 AM

For every 10 degrees cooler the air is that enters your engine, you'll gain approximately 1% in power. This is the reason you want cold air entering, not hot air from the top of your engine!

ebpda9 · 09-20-2002, 07:06 AM

usually the short ram can strip you of some power. i know cause i had one, the getto style under the hood till few moths ago. the nice thing about a cold air is that you can cut it, and have the short ram during winter. it gets pretty cold up here

*pdiggitydogg* · 09-20-2002, 09:42 AM

From what Ive noticed it doesnt make any difference when the temp outside is over 80 degrees anyway (give or take a few degrees). I use short ram and since its summer...and always over 85 degrees, I dont notice any difference with my car and a friends civic that has cai. However, I do plan on making a "custom" cold air adapter to my ram air to relocate the filter to under the bumper for this fall / next summer. Probably just buy some 3" hose and move it...extreme ghetto right there

nonovurbizniz · 09-20-2002, 02:51 PM

You shouldn't get a loss of power from a short ram intake. it should be a VERY small increase.

while it is true that the stock intake system is techniclly a cold air intake it is WAY too restrictive. (if you put a box type k&n filter in your stock box and removed the resonator box in the bumper it'd probobly be better than the hot under hood short ram. but with the stock filter and resonator on there, there is just about no way you could loose power (unless your engine is incapable of sucking in the more air provided by the higher flow filter.

as far as 80+ taking away the advantage of the cai NOT A CHANCE under hood temperature's are above 180 degrees so by
94EX's formula that's 100 degrees which is a 10 percent increase in power. if you have 100 hp now you have 110 if you have 200 then it's 220 THAT"S NOT A BIG DEAL?

nonovurbizniz · 09-20-2002, 02:57 PM

Just a side note i had a short ram intake (ice-man) on my 93 civic ex. there is an obvious improvement over stock. I didn't ever put on my cold air extension until a year after i got it. (too much of a pain to take off the bumper) At which time my car got hit whiched popped the screw that holds on the corner of the bumper on the pass. side so i can take it off and put it on as the weather dictates.

Once i finally put on the cold air extension I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE (even in the summer 90+). If that's not enough i have takin 4 people for drives with the short ram on and then the cold air extension. ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE NOTICED THE DIFFERENCE IMMEDIATLY. IT IS NIGHT AND DAY.

AND FIY ICE-MAN'S GO FOR 125 AND THEY FUNCTION AS BOTH WITHOUT HAVING TO HACKSAW IT IN HALF LIKE THE AEM ONES.
Also it is supposedly made of thermo-resistant plastic which allows the cold air to stay cold as it passes the hotter under hood components of the intake.

TeriyakiBroccoli · 09-21-2002, 12:08 AM

ah see, some people say its good, some say it isnt.. thats why i'm kinda stuck on what to get.

slowEJ6 · 09-21-2002, 10:49 AM

CAI.
10hp from an intake? suuuuure.

09-20-2002, 01:27 AM	#1
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	LX Cold air/warm air. :P I own a civic LX (sadly), and I was wondering if there was any difference between a short ram and regular cold air other than size... some say, the short ram doesn't produce more power/sux... Its considerably cheaper in some places, so whats your input?

09-20-2002, 01:40 AM	#2
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 44 Posts: 11,142	For every 10 degrees cooler the air is that enters your engine, you'll gain approximately 1% in power. This is the reason you want cold air entering, not hot air from the top of your engine! __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

09-20-2002, 07:06 AM	#3
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	usually the short ram can strip you of some power. i know cause i had one, the getto style under the hood till few moths ago. the nice thing about a cold air is that you can cut it, and have the short ram during winter. it gets pretty cold up here __________________

09-20-2002, 02:51 PM	#5
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	You shouldn't get a loss of power from a short ram intake. it should be a VERY small increase. while it is true that the stock intake system is techniclly a cold air intake it is WAY too restrictive. (if you put a box type k&n filter in your stock box and removed the resonator box in the bumper it'd probobly be better than the hot under hood short ram. but with the stock filter and resonator on there, there is just about no way you could loose power (unless your engine is incapable of sucking in the more air provided by the higher flow filter. as far as 80+ taking away the advantage of the cai NOT A CHANCE under hood temperature's are above 180 degrees so by 94EX's formula that's 100 degrees which is a 10 percent increase in power. if you have 100 hp now you have 110 if you have 200 then it's 220 THAT"S NOT A BIG DEAL? __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

09-20-2002, 02:57 PM	#6
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	Just a side note i had a short ram intake (ice-man) on my 93 civic ex. there is an obvious improvement over stock. I didn't ever put on my cold air extension until a year after i got it. (too much of a pain to take off the bumper) At which time my car got hit whiched popped the screw that holds on the corner of the bumper on the pass. side so i can take it off and put it on as the weather dictates. Once i finally put on the cold air extension I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE (even in the summer 90+). If that's not enough i have takin 4 people for drives with the short ram on and then the cold air extension. ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE NOTICED THE DIFFERENCE IMMEDIATLY. IT IS NIGHT AND DAY. AND FIY ICE-MAN'S GO FOR 125 AND THEY FUNCTION AS BOTH WITHOUT HAVING TO HACKSAW IT IN HALF LIKE THE AEM ONES. Also it is supposedly made of thermo-resistant plastic which allows the cold air to stay cold as it passes the hotter under hood components of the intake. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

09-20-2002, 09:42 AM	#4
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	From what Ive noticed it doesnt make any difference when the temp outside is over 80 degrees anyway (give or take a few degrees). I use short ram and since its summer...and always over 85 degrees, I dont notice any difference with my car and a friends civic that has cai. However, I do plan on making a "custom" cold air adapter to my ram air to relocate the filter to under the bumper for this fall / next summer. Probably just buy some 3" hose and move it...extreme ghetto right there

09-21-2002, 12:08 AM	#7
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	ah see, some people say its good, some say it isnt.. thats why i'm kinda stuck on what to get.

09-21-2002, 10:49 AM	#8
slowEJ6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Oviedo, FL Age: 43 Posts: 3,195	CAI. 10hp from an intake? suuuuure.

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