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10-06-2001, 02:37 PM

For background info on my car, check signature.

One night me and a bunch of my friends decided to go out to the street races. When I arrived it was just in time to see a Green Eclipse GS-T waste a Civic SI, When the Eclipse got back from totally beating this poor SI his first words were "Thats why you never buy a Honda". I had beaten this guy once at the strip and once on the streets, I was pissed that he would open his fat mouth and make such an ignorant comment. Of course I yelled "lets race dick smack, I will show you one great reason to buy a fuggin honda". He replied "okay lets go, I have a new motor, I will smoke you", He was so cocky I started laughing. Well we lined up to race and it was on, out of 1st I had 1.5 cars on him, by the top of third I had over 3 cars on him.

When we got back I got out of my car and yelled to him "Wanna know that one good reason to buy a Honda" He said "What" I said "So you can shut ignorant jackass's the **** up". That was a good night, afterwards I couldnt get the SI driver to leave me alone.

2000Pimpinex · 10-06-2001, 02:42 PM

Nice kill. Thats the way to shut up ignorant people.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 10-08-2001, 01:23 PM

lol, nice job, but dsm's arnt slow. but id take a prelude vtec or a itr over one any day.

10-08-2001, 02:11 PM

niiiice... some people never learn its best to keep your mouth shut..

10-08-2001, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4thGenlude
lol, nice job, but dsm's arnt slow. but id take a prelude vtec or a itr over one any day.

I never said DSM's were slow, but 2nd gen GS-T's sure seem to be (atleast here in Utah).

I have alot of respect for GSx's and TSI's but other htan that I dont harbor much interest.

Accord Man · 10-08-2001, 04:27 PM

Good Job!

Show those nasty crap-mobiles not to mess with the H.O.N.D.A!

I think I have rapping talents! *lol*

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94_AcCoRd_EX · 10-08-2001, 04:48 PM

Nice kill, that's what I like to see.

10-08-2001, 05:17 PM

nice kill, your car aint nothin to f**k around with

*ChrisCantSkate* · 10-08-2001, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slowerthanu

I never said DSM's were slow, but 2nd gen GS-T's sure seem to be (atleast here in Utah).

I have alot of respect for GSx's and TSI's but other htan that I dont harbor much interest.

oh i know you didnt, the only thing thats not fair about them is for a few bucks they can bump their boost and run low 14's. grrrr, on day........ i'll show em all.

thermal · 10-09-2001, 09:08 PM

he he he...i likes...

10-11-2001, 04:33 PM

great kill. I would have given him a dose of his own medicine and said something like, "mitsubishi makes some great Tv's.... but there cars... they're a little slow. ".

10-14-2001, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slowerthanu
For background info on my car, check signature.

One night me and a bunch of my friends decided to go out to the street races. When I arrived it was just in time to see a Green Eclipse GS-T waste a Civic SI, When the Eclipse got back from totally beating this poor SI his first words were "Thats why you never buy a Honda". I had beaten this guy once at the strip and once on the streets, I was pissed that he would open his fat mouth and make such an ignorant comment. Of course I yelled "lets race dick smack, I will show you one great reason to buy a fuggin honda". He replied "okay lets go, I have a new motor, I will smoke you", He was so cocky I started laughing. Well we lined up to race and it was on, out of 1st I had 1.5 cars on him, by the top of third I had over 3 cars on him.

When we got back I got out of my car and yelled to him "Wanna know that one good reason to buy a Honda" He said "What" I said "So you can shut ignorant jackass's the **** up". That was a good night, afterwards I couldnt get the SI driver to leave me alone.

Are you sure it was a GS-T? Dont they have over 200hp?

Anyways good kill!

10-15-2001, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2000_Honda_Si

Are you sure it was a GS-T? Dont they have over 200hp?

Anyways good kill!

This one was more than likely closer to 240HP, but the car also weighs near 3000 pounds and has traction issues under boost, I have around 200 crank HP and weigh in at 2285 W/O driver, yes it was a GS-T and Yes I did smoke it. BTW, 2nd Gen DSM's have no top end

Racing Rice · 10-15-2001, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slowerthanu

...BTW, 2nd Gen DSM's have no top end

How do you get that? My friends eclipse will roll out like crazy on top end.. Hes had it upto 155 and it was still pullin, but he backed off..

10-15-2001, 04:05 PM

Well the 2nd gen has a Garrett T-25 Turbo, this turbo will spool to full boost at about 2000 rpm when in excellent condition, it cannot breath much past 5600 rpm the 4G63 redlines at 7000, that is were I got the lack of tope end, not top speed. top speed is not relative to how much PEAK power you have it has alot more to do with peak torque and aerodynamics.

Also, the 2nd gen's stock BOV bleeds of boost over 15psi I believe.

thermal · 10-15-2001, 05:39 PM

i dont know about GST's man......my friend here had a stock GST but auto. we raced and i beat him.........

10-15-2001, 06:53 PM

The simple fact is, GS-T's are not that fast, GSX's get good times because you can get 1.7 60 foot times out of it stock. If I could pull off 1.7 60 foot times in my car I would be running a 13.4, not a 13.8

*ChrisCantSkate* · 10-16-2001, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slowerthanu
I would be running a 13.4, not a 13.8

yeah you can take a gst, i didnt realize your car was in the 13's

10-24-2001, 01:05 PM

"Show those nasty crap-mobiles not to mess with the H.O.N.D.A! "
-ignored.

Hmmmmm. Play nice! I myself give respect and when I race I actually act very casual and just give a thumbs up or down when I win/lose. Remember kids, someone out there will ALWAYS be faster or slower than you. Part of the game of racing/modding. That and we all have empty wallets

Overall, eclipses have MADD potential...just depends on if the owner took advantage of that potential. I have a long way to go, but then again, I also know not to mess with the sound of a BOV, let alone even one of my own boys.....

thanks

Racing Rice · 10-24-2001, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slowerthanu
The simple fact is, GS-T's are not that fast, GSX's get good times because you can get 1.7 60 foot times out of it stock. If I could pull off 1.7 60 foot times in my car I would be running a 13.4, not a 13.8

They dont benefit from the beauty of AWD... It just means it takes a better driver to drive a GST then it does a GSX... The GST will spin and smoke mad crazy...

10-24-2001, 02:31 PM

well lets see....
"mitsubishi makes some great Tv's.... but there cars... they're a little slow. "-a stock non turbo eclipse puts more to the ground than a stock ex so be quiet
... The GST will spin and smoke mad crazy...
If you dont know how to launch, of course you will just sit and smoke the tires, most of you could do that in your honduhs actually probably, only seems like a handful of you dont have the honduh mentality and actually mod your car to be fast, but then again, those Type R badges on your civic lx's give you what? 50whp?

10-24-2001, 02:35 PM

Yeah most of these peeps arent the ones with the type r badges. Hey we have seen the GST Type R's on our car too. Also GSX are stop light killers and the GST's are fu**in crazy ass cars from a rolling drop. I would probably take a GST over a GSX if I didnt live in North Dakota and like to AWD over the snow.

Racing Rice · 10-24-2001, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EvuLFleA
...Hey we have seen the GST Type R's on our car too....

*LOL* you gotta love that..

10-24-2001, 05:41 PM

doods! jess when i was getting respect for this board!!! winning is one thing, bashing all the same type of car is another! you have a type R motor in ur car and you're comparing it to a t-25 turboed GS-T. If that guy was clowning on hondas then dats his bad but dont start clowning when you dont know... t-25s will be only good up to low 14s on a GST... wat if he put major mods like you in his car? point is dont clown on all cars... i keel civic NA DX/EX/LX/HX/and occasional SIs but I dont go hating on them. you got a poor attutide for being a car enthusiast dood.

bottom line is ur car is cool but u dont gotta cool attitude... ur lackin son... grow up! GSTs have sorry top end? hahhahahha... OMG lame!

10-24-2001, 07:47 PM

You shouldnt say that all dsm's are shitty cars. I think there's good traits in all cars, expecially the 4g63's and 420a's. I've seen fast honda's around here and at the track, it must be nice to have cars that have a huge fuggin aftermarket selection to bolt on and swap. I think its pretty amazing that Hahn is getting 11 second runs on their 2nd gen 420a with their stage 5 turbosystem, the engine you all call a neon motor.

--
Brad
98 Eclipse GS HRC Stage V

Racing Rice · 10-24-2001, 08:22 PM

Just out of curiousity... How many honda owners have ever driven a turbocharged eclipse or talon?

I personally have driven both a GSX and a TSI FWD. Its amazing fun power... Not to mention how easy it is to make them faster..

10-24-2001, 09:43 PM

OK, I never said I hated Eclipses (or did I) I dont prefer them, they are good cars but the driver was a complete ass, that was the point of the story, not the DSM.

10-24-2001, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dukmahsik
doods! jess when i was getting respect for this board!!! winning is one thing, bashing all the same type of car is another! you have a type R motor in ur car and you're comparing it to a t-25 turboed GS-T. If that guy was clowning on hondas then dats his bad but dont start clowning when you dont know... t-25s will be only good up to low 14s on a GST... wat if he put major mods like you in his car? point is dont clown on all cars... i keel civic NA DX/EX/LX/HX/and occasional SIs but I dont go hating on them. you got a poor attutide for being a car enthusiast dood.

bottom line is ur car is cool but u dont gotta cool attitude... ur lackin son... grow up! GSTs have sorry top end? hahhahahha... OMG lame!

WTF are you talking about, the T-25 has no topend, I am talking about a car with a Stock Turbo here not a built Eclipse, calm down buddy, I got plenty of respect..........for fast cars, no matter what it is. The guy was a ***** plain and simple

10-24-2001, 09:47 PM

Yeah some built GS's that have spanked GS-T's still get harrassed becaue we have the "neon" motor. There are all motor neons running 11's. 4-door style biotch. Whats up with that!?? There will always be some jack-asses so just deal with it and kick their ass on the track.

Accord Man · 10-25-2001, 08:13 AM

Alright boys.

If ya'll are gonna continue this discussion (which seems to have taken a sour twist) please calm down and avoid using harsh words.

Thank You

10-25-2001, 10:55 AM

cant weeee all jess git along?

Accord Man · 10-25-2001, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KaptainMike
cant weeee all jess git along?

LoL I guess we can..

But remember we are in the " A classic kill for all of you " forum..
Also known as the testosterone forum! The typical male tends to get a little firey about things, when in this forum..

10-25-2001, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slowerthanu
For background info on my car, check signature.

One night me and a bunch of my friends decided to go out to the street races. When I arrived it was just in time to see a Green Eclipse GS-T waste a Civic SI, When the Eclipse got back from totally beating this poor SI his first words were "Thats why you never buy a Honda". I had beaten this guy once at the strip and once on the streets, I was pissed that he would open his fat mouth and make such an ignorant comment. Of course I yelled "lets race dick smack, I will show you one great reason to buy a fuggin honda". He replied "okay lets go, I have a new motor, I will smoke you", He was so cocky I started laughing. Well we lined up to race and it was on, out of 1st I had 1.5 cars on him, by the top of third I had over 3 cars on him.

When we got back I got out of my car and yelled to him "Wanna know that one good reason to buy a Honda" He said "What" I said "So you can shut ignorant jackass's the **** up". That was a good night, afterwards I couldnt get the SI driver to leave me alone.

Sorry but I gotta raise up the B.S Flag.

10-25-2001, 12:08 PM

i agree with the admin i like this board... thanks for making us newcomer eclipses feel welcome... wat that's like 6 of us on here now? muhahhaha

Accord Man · 10-25-2001, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FuSi0N

Sorry but I gotta raise up the B.S Flag.

Hi there, welcome to HS!

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10-25-2001, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FuSi0N

Sorry but I gotta raise up the B.S Flag.

Uhhhh, ok. It's not like I am claiming to beat a Mclaren F1 man, its an Eclipse for gods sake, a stock Type-R is capable of beating a GS-T when equipped with an accomplished driver. If you want, I will get some people on here to back me up, scratch that, I dont need to defend myself to you.

If you want background info, go to Honda-Tech.com and check on me there, No B.S. from me.

10-25-2001, 01:41 PM

I think cars that are within 1 second of each others 1/4 times can beat each other because it depends a lot on the driver.

10-25-2001, 02:27 PM

There will be no raising of any BS flags in here. I don't see how it can even be denied that a car weighing 2200 lbs and having a Type R motor could not at least hang with a moderately modded Eclipse. I've driven more than enough Eclipses to know that they have a lot of potential, especially the 1st gens. But on the other hand we are on a Honda board so it is unrealistic to expect our members to say "Really nice things" about all other cars. We are all enthusiats and thus we respect other racers/cars. So basically Fusion you are more than welcome post up and join in but try not to take comments the wrong way.

10-25-2001, 02:30 PM

It doesn't matter that u beat a GS-T, cuz I know plenty of GS-T's that would make u sick. Anyways, in a stock to stock battle with good drivers in both cars, who knows which car would win? It's a toss up. U gotta give it to the GS-T. He had balls for racing lightweight hondas that can rev to high #'s. Eclipses aren't light cars. You guys have HP-Weight on us by a good margin. I think it's sad that a car with similar or equal HP to an eclipse has trouble smoking it when it has a lot less weight and a higher redline. I guess it's the lack of torque in VTECs that makes it interesting.

10-25-2001, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 9D9 MITSU RS
It doesn't matter that u beat a GS-T, cuz I know plenty of GS-T's that would make u sick. Anyways, in a stock to stock battle with good drivers in both cars, who knows which car would win? It's a toss up. U gotta give it to the GS-T. He had balls for racing lightweight hondas that can rev to high #'s. Eclipses aren't light cars. You guys have HP-Weight on us by a good margin. I think it's sad that a car with similar or equal HP to an eclipse has trouble smoking it when it has a lot less weight and a higher redline. I guess it's the lack of torque in VTECs that makes it interesting.

Whoa there buddy. there are alot of cars that can beat me period. I have friends that can beat me in there Hondas, I never said I can beat any Eclipse out there, I can beat any car that runs slower than a 13.8 at 98mph. Thats all, be it a Honda, A Ford A chevy or a Mitsubishi, it doesnt matter to me.

10-06-2001, 02:37 PM	#1
slowerthanu Posts: n/a	A classic kill for all of you For background info on my car, check signature. One night me and a bunch of my friends decided to go out to the street races. When I arrived it was just in time to see a Green Eclipse GS-T waste a Civic SI, When the Eclipse got back from totally beating this poor SI his first words were "Thats why you never buy a Honda". I had beaten this guy once at the strip and once on the streets, I was pissed that he would open his fat mouth and make such an ignorant comment. Of course I yelled "lets race dick smack, I will show you one great reason to buy a fuggin honda". He replied "okay lets go, I have a new motor, I will smoke you", He was so cocky I started laughing. Well we lined up to race and it was on, out of 1st I had 1.5 cars on him, by the top of third I had over 3 cars on him. When we got back I got out of my car and yelled to him "Wanna know that one good reason to buy a Honda" He said "What" I said "So you can shut ignorant jackass's the **** up". That was a good night, afterwards I couldnt get the SI driver to leave me alone.

10-06-2001, 02:42 PM	#2
2000Pimpinex Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kentucky Age: 44 Posts: 1,427	Nice kill. Thats the way to shut up ignorant people. __________________ 2008 Mustang GT 1998 Hatchback SOLD 1992 Hatchback w/ JDM H22A SOLD 1985 Ford Bronco XLT 5.8 351W w/ 33X12.5X15

10-08-2001, 01:23 PM	#3
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 41 Posts: 9,662	lol, nice job, but dsm's arnt slow. but id take a prelude vtec or a itr over one any day. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

10-08-2001, 04:27 PM	#6
Accord Man THE GENERAL Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Earth (usually) Age: 43 Posts: 5,698	Good Job! Show those nasty crap-mobiles not to mess with the H.O.N.D.A! I think I have rapping talents! lol :: __________________ HondaStyle.com Babysitter's Club Member #0 Soon to be >Dr Max Immuh<

10-09-2001, 09:08 PM	#10
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	he he he...i likes... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

10-08-2001, 02:11 PM	#4
GS-Racer01 Posts: n/a	niiiice... some people never learn its best to keep your mouth shut..

10-08-2001, 04:48 PM	#7
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 44 Posts: 11,142	Nice kill, that's what I like to see.

10-08-2001, 05:17 PM	#8
90civiclxryder Posts: n/a	nice kill, your car aint nothin to f**k around with

10-11-2001, 04:33 PM	#11
Impact23 Posts: n/a	great kill. I would have given him a dose of his own medicine and said something like, "mitsubishi makes some great Tv's.... but there cars... they're a little slow. ".

10-15-2001, 04:05 PM	#15
slowerthanu Posts: n/a	Well the 2nd gen has a Garrett T-25 Turbo, this turbo will spool to full boost at about 2000 rpm when in excellent condition, it cannot breath much past 5600 rpm the 4G63 redlines at 7000, that is were I got the lack of tope end, not top speed. top speed is not relative to how much PEAK power you have it has alot more to do with peak torque and aerodynamics. Also, the 2nd gen's stock BOV bleeds of boost over 15psi I believe.

10-15-2001, 05:39 PM	#16
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	i dont know about GST's man......my friend here had a stock GST but auto. we raced and i beat him......... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

10-15-2001, 06:53 PM	#17
slowerthanu Posts: n/a	The simple fact is, GS-T's are not that fast, GSX's get good times because you can get 1.7 60 foot times out of it stock. If I could pull off 1.7 60 foot times in my car I would be running a 13.4, not a 13.8

10-24-2001, 01:05 PM	#19
KaptainMike Posts: n/a	"Show those nasty crap-mobiles not to mess with the H.O.N.D.A! " -ignored. Hmmmmm. Play nice! I myself give respect and when I race I actually act very casual and just give a thumbs up or down when I win/lose. Remember kids, someone out there will ALWAYS be faster or slower than you. Part of the game of racing/modding. That and we all have empty wallets Overall, eclipses have MADD potential...just depends on if the owner took advantage of that potential. I have a long way to go, but then again, I also know not to mess with the sound of a BOV, let alone even one of my own boys..... thanks

10-24-2001, 02:31 PM	#21
tackimac8 Posts: n/a	Poor Honduh drivers well lets see.... "mitsubishi makes some great Tv's.... but there cars... they're a little slow. "-a stock non turbo eclipse puts more to the ground than a stock ex so be quiet ... The GST will spin and smoke mad crazy... If you dont know how to launch, of course you will just sit and smoke the tires, most of you could do that in your honduhs actually probably, only seems like a handful of you dont have the honduh mentality and actually mod your car to be fast, but then again, those Type R badges on your civic lx's give you what? 50whp?

10-24-2001, 02:35 PM	#22
EvuLFleA Posts: n/a	Yeah most of these peeps arent the ones with the type r badges. Hey we have seen the GST Type R's on our car too. Also GSX are stop light killers and the GST's are fu**in crazy ass cars from a rolling drop. I would probably take a GST over a GSX if I didnt live in North Dakota and like to AWD over the snow.

10-24-2001, 05:41 PM	#24
dukmahsik Posts: n/a	doods! jess when i was getting respect for this board!!! winning is one thing, bashing all the same type of car is another! you have a type R motor in ur car and you're comparing it to a t-25 turboed GS-T. If that guy was clowning on hondas then dats his bad but dont start clowning when you dont know... t-25s will be only good up to low 14s on a GST... wat if he put major mods like you in his car? point is dont clown on all cars... i keel civic NA DX/EX/LX/HX/and occasional SIs but I dont go hating on them. you got a poor attutide for being a car enthusiast dood. bottom line is ur car is cool but u dont gotta cool attitude... ur lackin son... grow up! GSTs have sorry top end? hahhahahha... OMG lame!

10-24-2001, 07:47 PM	#25
Super20G Posts: n/a	DSM's are no joke You shouldnt say that all dsm's are shitty cars. I think there's good traits in all cars, expecially the 4g63's and 420a's. I've seen fast honda's around here and at the track, it must be nice to have cars that have a huge fuggin aftermarket selection to bolt on and swap. I think its pretty amazing that Hahn is getting 11 second runs on their 2nd gen 420a with their stage 5 turbosystem, the engine you all call a neon motor. -- Brad 98 Eclipse GS HRC Stage V

10-24-2001, 08:22 PM	#26
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	Re: DSM's are no joke Just out of curiousity... How many honda owners have ever driven a turbocharged eclipse or talon? I personally have driven both a GSX and a TSI FWD. Its amazing fun power... Not to mention how easy it is to make them faster.. __________________ Racing Rice

10-24-2001, 09:43 PM	#27
slowerthanu Posts: n/a	OK, I never said I hated Eclipses (or did I) I dont prefer them, they are good cars but the driver was a complete ass, that was the point of the story, not the DSM.

10-24-2001, 09:47 PM	#29
EvuLFleA Posts: n/a	Yeah some built GS's that have spanked GS-T's still get harrassed becaue we have the "neon" motor. There are all motor neons running 11's. 4-door style biotch. Whats up with that!?? There will always be some jack-asses so just deal with it and kick their ass on the track.

10-25-2001, 08:13 AM	#30
Accord Man THE GENERAL Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Earth (usually) Age: 43 Posts: 5,698	Alright boys. If ya'll are gonna continue this discussion (which seems to have taken a sour twist) please calm down and avoid using harsh words. Thank You __________________ HondaStyle.com Babysitter's Club Member #0 Soon to be >Dr Max Immuh<

10-25-2001, 10:55 AM	#31
KaptainMike Posts: n/a	cant weeee all jess git along?

10-25-2001, 12:08 PM	#34
dukmahsik Posts: n/a	i agree with the admin i like this board... thanks for making us newcomer eclipses feel welcome... wat that's like 6 of us on here now? muhahhaha

10-25-2001, 01:41 PM	#37
EvuLFleA Posts: n/a	I think cars that are within 1 second of each others 1/4 times can beat each other because it depends a lot on the driver.

10-25-2001, 02:27 PM	#38
97lude Posts: n/a	There will be no raising of any BS flags in here. I don't see how it can even be denied that a car weighing 2200 lbs and having a Type R motor could not at least hang with a moderately modded Eclipse. I've driven more than enough Eclipses to know that they have a lot of potential, especially the 1st gens. But on the other hand we are on a Honda board so it is unrealistic to expect our members to say "Really nice things" about all other cars. We are all enthusiats and thus we respect other racers/cars. So basically Fusion you are more than welcome post up and join in but try not to take comments the wrong way.

10-25-2001, 02:30 PM	#39
9D9 MITSU RS Posts: n/a	TRUE It doesn't matter that u beat a GS-T, cuz I know plenty of GS-T's that would make u sick. Anyways, in a stock to stock battle with good drivers in both cars, who knows which car would win? It's a toss up. U gotta give it to the GS-T. He had balls for racing lightweight hondas that can rev to high #'s. Eclipses aren't light cars. You guys have HP-Weight on us by a good margin. I think it's sad that a car with similar or equal HP to an eclipse has trouble smoking it when it has a lot less weight and a higher redline. I guess it's the lack of torque in VTECs that makes it interesting.

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