I don't believe in God, i dont' believe in religion

Some of my replies may have been uncalled for, i.e. name calling etc. PLease ignore these remarks and focus on the point i am trying to make. Thankyou.

Originally posted by Honda_Gurl
plus, let's just say that you're right. there's no God.. what am i gonna lose? nothing cause then by the same means, there's no heaven or hell. but let's think for a minute. what if i'm right and there IS a God. what do u have to lose? everything...

do you remember anything before you were born? wait, lemme guess.. you DON'T. Well what do you think its going to be like after you die hmmm? You don't exist anymore, just like you didn't exist before you were born.

Originally posted by Honda_Gurl


actually in a way it has already been proven. everything that the Bible has claimed to happen in the past, has been scientifically proven. the cities mentioned, all sorts of stuff has been found to prove the Bible correct. not too long ago, a bunch of scrolls were even found of the Bible that were dated back to that time.

haha whoaaaaa that REALLY proves EVERYTHING now. OF COURSE CITIES IN THE BIBLE REALLY EXISTED. nobody is saying the bible is 100% made up. It is probaly based extremely loosly on things that actually happened. Its just like when you make a movie based on a true story, sure its from an event that really happened, but the movie is completely ficticous in its content.

Originally posted by Honda_Gurl


. i mean the Bible even talks about humans walking with dinosaurs...

haha, if you know anything about anything, you know people did NOT walk with "dinosaurs". Of course prehistoric creatures still do exist, but not "dinosaurs" as everybody thinks (i.e. the T-rex and all those big things)

Originally posted by DsBlu01CivEX
. Too many people claiming to be religious are the most hypocritical people I've met.

I concur

Originally posted by Honda_Gurl
what do u have to lose to try to believe in God? and to answer your question, if someone could prove to me that God didn't exist, or give me something even remotely questionable, then i probably would also doubt and might believe there was no God

haha, thats like saying your favorite color is blue, but if somebody gives you evidence that its not your favorite color, then you'll change your mind. I don't believe in god, but i would imagine that if you did, you would not be saying that. Your also using the "what do i have to lose" argument, which means you only believe in him 'just in case' he exists. haha

Originally posted by TheBaconKing
i could really care less about getting more people to, but as far as christians are concerned regarding what gives God the right to judge people, well, he's kinda God. There's my rant, and my first post.

yes you are giving god human characteristics again, which is a no-no. We have our own set of morals, like, killing is not a good thing for instince. However in other species of animals, killing is perfectly natural. Why is it that only humans answer to god and not any other species of animal, even those animals that have existed on this earth thousands of years before humans ever existed. And if this universe was created for humans, becasue only we answer to god, then why did he wait so damn long to put us here, why wait billions of years. That doesn't make sense to me.

Originally posted by Gator
My belief is that everyone is born with an instinct of knowing God.

Nobody is born with an "instinct of knowing god" . We are all born with instinct to survive. I dont know much about the area so i won't go on. The way humans were introduced to god was in an attempt to explain the unkown. The indians prayed so that it would rain and they're crops would grow. They believe god was making it rain. We now know that there are weather patterns, jet streams, updrafts and all that good stuff that makes moisture in the air and water droplets and precipitation. Over the centuries humans have gave god the credit for alot of things, yet we have found the science behind these things for quite a few. Of course we do not know everything, such as how big the universe is, how matter was created, and if we don't wipe out the human race, we might get those answers someday. But to take the easy way out and say that "god" did it, is inconcevaible.

Originally posted by Gator

To try to defend the existance of God is like trying to prove that the wind blows. We see the effects of the wind blowing, but cannot provide actual tangible evidence of the wind. In the same way, we see the effects of God and His works here on earth...but how do you prove His presence?

i'm sorry thats just stupid. If your going to make an analogy at least make a good one. You can see the wind blowing the leaves on the tree, as well as feel the wind against your hand. However, you can see an "act of god" such as a fireman saving somebody?(i don't know what an act of god is, but anyway), but you don't "feel" anything when that happens. if you do, you probably need to consult with a doctor.

Originally posted by Gator


I know of past historical events (wars, politics, etc) based on documentation passed down through the generations. I trust in this information as it has been regarded as a factual representation of prior events. I equally regard The Bible as God's documentation through others of His word and promsie for us.

haha, ignorance at its finest hour. If you think our interpretation of historical events is correct. There are always facts left out, di-information added in, and then when you pass that down from generation to generation, the facts and mis-information get scrambled up and by the time your hearing it, nobody knows the truth anymore. Believe that

Originally posted by juvenile
ok, one thing about your situation...just because your life isn't great doesn't mean there is no God. My life is really messed up too, yet I still believe in God! What did you expect him to do, flower you with everything you want? That's not the way God works, and you see, he's teaching you a lesson now, he's testing your faith, and you are giving up easily (not sure of your situation so no flamin intended)

Haha, i love it when people say this. When times are good, its because of god. When times are bad, its because of god. Your just thinking what you want to think bro. Lemme ask you something son, my friends mother died of cancer, must have been around 50, and i know for a fact she was a good woman, how is that testing her faith. You go and tell her family that.

Don't you see that its just a wall of comfort you put around yourselves. When you narrowly avoid and car accident, you think "oh , god helped me". But if you get an F in your math class, god is "punishing you" for something else you've done. Thats just rediculous, your just trying to find a reason for why things happen. The truth is, life is based on the laws of probability. When you drive, there is a certain probability that you will get into an accident. When you do get in an accident, you've lost your bet, meaning when you got into your car you bet you wouldn't crash, but you did. Thats all it is folk. Sorry.

Originally posted by toykilla


Who said the lord was a being with human characteristics?? In Moses, god was looked at as a burning bush. Maybe you should read more on the subject before you dont believe in something you know nothing about.

What i meant was, human characteristics in so much as thought processes. God interprets right from wrong. What other animal thinks like that except human beings? My point exactly

Originally posted by Gator




He isn't necessarily going to suddenly appear before you and tell you what you need to know. He's much more clever than that. He puts people in your life that He works through - even in places like this... and He doesn't do things in our time frame or the way we think it needs to be done. God has a very distinct purpose and way of doing things. What we think we may need or want may not be what's best for us. Pray for patience and God might stick you in a traffic jam every day for a month. You prayed for it, so work on it. You see what I mean?
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haha, thats funny. Thats like reading your horoscope and it says "you will face many challenges today". Then you go and your manager is angry with you at work and your like, MRS. CLEO WAS RIGHT! she IS real!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Chief

The fact that there is evil on earth should not be considered proof there is no God - it is simply a glimpse of the other side of things. God loves us enough to not treat us like puppets on a string. He gives us our own unique minds, bodies and choices to do with as we choose. He loves us so much that He gives us until our very last breath to turn to Him. That's pretty awesome if you ask me.

IF god was so great, he would have tailor made our "free will", barring evil thoughts from our minds. i mean, he IS god, isn't he? OF course i've heard the argument about free will before, its just another excuse for "evil". For example, lets say your stranded in a forest, and some plane comes along, and rescues you, you say it was the work of the lord. But if it was the work of the lord, he would have sent the plane to that area, which means he would have head to control the plane throught the pilot, which would have meant he would have had to control the pilot, which negates free will. OR, you could think rationally and just say a plane happened to fly over.

Originally posted by Honda_Gurl
. people think there's no God, i don't understand how that is, if everything will always lead back to Him. we come from monkeys? then how come there are still monkeys around today?? to all my fellow brothers in Christ, all we can do is pray. there's no point to argue with people who will just not choose to see the Truth. we did our job, which is to plant the seed, so to say, and now there's nothing left to do but pray. we did our job as Christians to spread the Gospel, now the rest is left to God.

haha, about the monkeys. If you knew anything about evolution, you would know that a species gets seperated into 2 groups. One of those groups may stay in the same habitat, whereas the other groups environment changes. Becasue of these changes, mutations in the birds may help or hinder they're ability to stay alive. Changes are adapted, and so after hundreds of years, the end result is a completely different species of animal. ITs a ****ing fact.

And to remark on how we shouldn't argue and to just let things go as they may. Thats the dumbest thing in the world. So just becuase alot of people believe in one thing makes it right? NO. Just because nobody cares about destroying our environment doesn't mean we're not destroying it and will eventually make in inhospitable to ourselves. I bet god really wants that!