.:HSTuners::

Racing Rice · 03-09-2007, 08:21 AM

We need to come up with something to attract new members, and keep the current members coming back.

Lets make a wish list.. What would you like to see change? Are they any problems that you see that needs attention? Are there any features that we could implement that would be worth having? I realize this stuff is going to take man power to resolve and probably some time with Kalvin and Stephen if at all possible, but we could do something..

thermal · 03-09-2007, 11:18 AM

Get rid of useless forums. We need to start from the bottom, I think simplicity is the key for now to concentrate everybody in one spot, then we'll expand from there based solely on traffic. I think it should just be like this:

*Shifting Gears (OT)= Place for every OT stuff out there. This can be any general discussions including video/photo related threads, computer shitz, introduction, etc.

*Automotive= Since we originated as an automotive site, all automotive subjects should be here and merely should be the automotive "technical" side of the forum. No sub forums such as Force Induction, All-Motor, Suspension, Civic, Integra, How To's, etc.... leave it in one forum for now. We'll create sub forums as we grow.....

*Clasifieds= For selling crap. Some people go online just to sell stuff.

*Porn=........ just kidding... hehehe.

That's it. I mean think about it..... Shifting Gears gets the most traffic in this site. We are here mostly to talk about other things than cars.

I also think that we should host pics like prostreetonline and wetoddracing does. Leave a some sort of water mark on every pics to advertise the site.

GT40FIED · 03-09-2007, 11:55 AM

I'm down with simplification. I mean when was the last time anyone posted in Kill Stories ot the girl's forum? It's nice to have those things around, but if no one's posting then they could all easily be integrated into one forum. The same goes for model-specific forums. Boil it down to suspension, forced induction, motor, trouble, etc. While some people might have more knowledge on one platform vs. another, a broad forum would be easier to manage and it would probably force the rest of us to learn more.

Racing Rice · 03-09-2007, 12:52 PM

I agree.. There was a point when we were pretty hopping that those things actually got used.. but They just sit dormant these days. It looks stupid looking at forums and there are no posts that are newer then 30 days old.

Racing Rice · 03-09-2007, 01:43 PM

I thought of another thing.. A new damn banner! That text shit is cheesy as hell!

ebpda9 · 03-09-2007, 02:37 PM

i can't really do shit about the banner. yes, we do need a facelift. i think the problem lies with the fact that we barely get hit by search engine, and the URL does not include any honda in the name

Racing Rice · 03-09-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebpda9

i can't really do shit about the banner. yes, we do need a facelift. i think the problem lies with the fact that we barely get hit by search engine, and the URL does not include any honda in the name

Well is there any way to change that shit? I'll help if you if you need something.

IALuder · 03-09-2007, 03:00 PM

me to.

i do believe certain forums should be deleted.

ohiochica2 · 03-09-2007, 11:12 PM

we had honda in the name and chief got into trouble for it. hence why hstuners.

GT40FIED · 03-10-2007, 02:46 AM

^^ That's what I seem to remember. But then again, if that's true, why do other, bigger sites still have "Honda" in their URL?

We used to actually have an intro page and a photo gallery with user's pics that could be rated and whatnot rather than just a photo forum. I think it'd be cool to get some of that back.

Racing Rice · 03-12-2007, 10:06 AM

Yes, it's true. I remember that conversation with Brian like it was yesterday. Honda sent him a legal cease and desist message telling him that he can't use the domain name with the word Honda in it. I'm not sure why though, it's all political BS. I'm curious as to how the others can get away with it.

GT40FIED · 03-12-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racing Rice

Yes, it's true. I remember that conversation with Brian like it was yesterday. Honda sent him a legal cease and desist message telling him that he can't use the domain name with the word Honda in it. I'm not sure why though, it's all political BS. I'm curious as to how the others can get away with it.

No shit. Why go after this site and not Honda-tech? I say we go back to using the name Honda in the URL to attract more users and deal with any Honda legal douch bags when and if they come.

blind34_1 · 03-13-2007, 02:17 AM

I second that idea. I remember that letter Honda sent so long ago, and I remember thinking it was just a scare tactic. Though these days its so easy for ANYone to get something taken down, due to abuse of the DMCA...

What about the original logo? I couldn't find it and I searched for like a half hour seeing if anyone ever posted it as an attachment...no dice. I had it in my sig for the longest time, but that hosting service went under long ago...this is all I could find (attached, and yes, it was the image stealing banner)

And I also found this, the letter saying we couldn't use the Honda name:
http://www.hstuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13174

GT40FIED · 03-13-2007, 06:02 AM

Maybe one of the admins should contact bigger sites that still have Honda in their URL and ask how/if they dealt with it. I find it hard to believe that Honda would send Chief a letter like that and ignore sites many times bigger than this with the same "violation". Or hell...maybe just make a home page that has a big disclaimer on it.

I don't think this problem would fall under the DMCA...especially the way the original letter was worded. Here's a template letter that would be needed to cover DMCA violations (something I've come across from time to time since I pirate TONS of movies

)

Quote:

DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT
1. Detailed identity of the copyrighted work that I believe has been infringed upon. This includes identification of the web page or specific posts, as opposed to entire sites. Posts must be referenced by either the dates in which they appear or the permalink of the post
>Include here the URL to the concerned material infringing your copyright (URL of a website or URL to a post, with title, date, name of the emitter), or link to initial post with sufficient data to find it back easily
2. Identity of the material that I claim is infringing upon the copyrighted work listed in item #1 above.
>Include here the name of the concerned litigeous material (all images or posts if relevant) with their complete reference
3. Location of the author copyright notice (for information).
>Include here the possible URL of the page in which you have list or give detail about your copyright. This information is optional as all work of the mind are by default protected by the Copyright Berne Convention
4. Information to permit our company, the provider, to contact you.
>Include here your email, fax or postal address to quickly get a feedback from the provider.
5. Statements
Reproduce the next statements:
I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above on the infringing web pages is not authorized by my registered copyright and by the law. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner of an exclusive right that is infringed.
Your signature
>Signature of the author
>Add your name here

Does the DMCA even cover trademarks? The Honda name isn't copyrighted, it's trademarked (as far as I know). Hell...even if Honda pulled stupid bullshit again, I'd be willing to help fight the fuckers.

Racing Rice · 03-13-2007, 09:59 AM

I think the domain name change is a great idea, but Kalvin would have to be willing to go for it.. Since he's the man with the power.

thermal · 03-13-2007, 01:28 PM

Fuk it..... Go back to Honda Style. There are still tons of Honda sites out there that carry the name "Honda".....

ebpda9 · 03-13-2007, 02:07 PM

broads and booze....oh wait

Racing Rice · 03-13-2007, 02:46 PM

I see nothing wrong with that either.

ohiochica2 · 03-13-2007, 07:41 PM

hey now!

I really think we need to investigate and get the owner in on this.........i mean it is his board.

ebpda9 · 03-14-2007, 05:45 PM

he can bring the booze

GT40FIED · 03-14-2007, 06:26 PM

Idea for new domain name: www.notaffiliatedwithhonda.com

Yeah...where is Kalvin for all of this anyway?

thermal · 03-14-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT40FIED

Idea for new domain name: www.notaffiliatedwithhonda.com

Fuk yeah! I think that shit is great!

Racing Rice · 03-14-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT40FIED

Idea for new domain name: www.notaffiliatedwithhonda.com

Yeah...where is Kalvin for all of this anyway?

Noice!

*KwikR6* · 03-19-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thermal

Fuk it..... Go back to Honda Style. There are still tons of Honda sites out there that carry the name "Honda".....

I agree

Also simplicity is the key. As well. NEW FUCKING BANNER!! Fuck that thing is old worn out and horrid. I don't like it never did.

GT40FIED · 03-19-2007, 05:32 PM

I think we all need to ask ourselves...what would Jesus do?

Racing Rice · 03-21-2007, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT40FIED

I think we all need to ask ourselves...what would Jesus do?

Porn, and lots of it.

GT40FIED · 03-21-2007, 11:51 AM

We did that, remember? People bitched and moaned.

Second idea for a new domain name: www.whatwouldjesusdoinahonda.com

I like it.

IALuder · 03-21-2007, 04:04 PM

simple, yet classy.

Racing Rice · 03-22-2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT40FIED

We did that, remember? People bitched and moaned.

Second idea for a new domain name: www.whatwouldjesusdoinahonda.com

I like it.

I think we have a winner.. My only concern is that we have a bunch of hoity-toity Robs running around here pushing their religious Jesus driving honda sitings on us all. :o/

GT40FIED · 03-22-2007, 05:30 PM

But it'd just be all that much more fun to shut them the fuck up.

IALuder · 03-22-2007, 09:32 PM

lol, well lets get a little serious. hahahahahahahahha

GT40FIED · 03-23-2007, 06:24 AM

I honestly think we should go back to the old domain name, put up an entry page like we used to have, and stick a disclaimer at the very top of it that says we are in no way affiliated with Honda. I really don't see how they could bitch about that. And if they did, we could storm their headquarters.

IALuder · 03-23-2007, 12:20 PM

i agree, let do THIS!

*KwikR6* · 03-23-2007, 02:44 PM

I'm in agreeance

thermal · 03-23-2007, 04:53 PM

booyahhh... let's do it!

2000Pimpinex · 04-05-2007, 07:59 AM

OK, I haven't been on much in a while. Can a mod PM me with what happened to Chief or whoever used to run the site. It seems like alot is changing, hopefully for the better. I would really like this site to take off.

*AzCivic* · 04-08-2007, 10:56 AM

It'd be cool if someone dedicated some of their time to gathering all the info for new vehicles as they come out and made threads about each one. I always like to hear about new cars anyways.

A new name might help, hstuners almost sounds like a forum for highschool kids.

03-09-2007, 11:18 AM	#2
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	Get rid of useless forums. We need to start from the bottom, I think simplicity is the key for now to concentrate everybody in one spot, then we'll expand from there based solely on traffic. I think it should just be like this: Shifting Gears (OT)= Place for every OT stuff out there. This can be any general discussions including video/photo related threads, computer shitz, introduction, etc. Automotive= Since we originated as an automotive site, all automotive subjects should be here and merely should be the automotive "technical" side of the forum. No sub forums such as Force Induction, All-Motor, Suspension, Civic, Integra, How To's, etc.... leave it in one forum for now. We'll create sub forums as we grow..... Clasifieds= For selling crap. Some people go online just to sell stuff. Porn=........ just kidding... hehehe. That's it. I mean think about it..... Shifting Gears gets the most traffic in this site. We are here mostly to talk about other things than cars. I also think that we should host pics like prostreetonline and wetoddracing does. Leave a some sort of water mark on every pics to advertise the site. __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

03-09-2007, 11:55 AM	#3
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	I'm down with simplification. I mean when was the last time anyone posted in Kill Stories ot the girl's forum? It's nice to have those things around, but if no one's posting then they could all easily be integrated into one forum. The same goes for model-specific forums. Boil it down to suspension, forced induction, motor, trouble, etc. While some people might have more knowledge on one platform vs. another, a broad forum would be easier to manage and it would probably force the rest of us to learn more. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-09-2007, 12:52 PM	#4
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	I agree.. There was a point when we were pretty hopping that those things actually got used.. but They just sit dormant these days. It looks stupid looking at forums and there are no posts that are newer then 30 days old. __________________ Racing Rice

03-09-2007, 01:43 PM	#5
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	I thought of another thing.. A new damn banner! That text shit is cheesy as hell! __________________ Racing Rice

03-09-2007, 02:37 PM	#6
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i can't really do shit about the banner. yes, we do need a facelift. i think the problem lies with the fact that we barely get hit by search engine, and the URL does not include any honda in the name __________________

03-09-2007, 08:21 AM	#1
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	Brain Storm time.. What would you like to see? We need to come up with something to attract new members, and keep the current members coming back. Lets make a wish list.. What would you like to see change? Are they any problems that you see that needs attention? Are there any features that we could implement that would be worth having? I realize this stuff is going to take man power to resolve and probably some time with Kalvin and Stephen if at all possible, but we could do something.. __________________ Racing Rice

03-09-2007, 03:00 PM	#8
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	me to. i do believe certain forums should be deleted. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

03-09-2007, 11:12 PM	#9
ohiochica2 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 25	we had honda in the name and chief got into trouble for it. hence why hstuners.

03-10-2007, 02:46 AM	#10
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	^^ That's what I seem to remember. But then again, if that's true, why do other, bigger sites still have "Honda" in their URL? We used to actually have an intro page and a photo gallery with user's pics that could be rated and whatnot rather than just a photo forum. I think it'd be cool to get some of that back. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-12-2007, 10:06 AM	#11
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	Yes, it's true. I remember that conversation with Brian like it was yesterday. Honda sent him a legal cease and desist message telling him that he can't use the domain name with the word Honda in it. I'm not sure why though, it's all political BS. I'm curious as to how the others can get away with it. __________________ Racing Rice

03-13-2007, 09:59 AM	#15
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	I think the domain name change is a great idea, but Kalvin would have to be willing to go for it.. Since he's the man with the power. __________________ Racing Rice

03-13-2007, 01:28 PM	#16
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	Fuk it..... Go back to Honda Style. There are still tons of Honda sites out there that carry the name "Honda"..... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

03-13-2007, 02:07 PM	#17
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	broads and booze....oh wait __________________

03-13-2007, 02:46 PM	#18
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 46 Posts: 7,985	I see nothing wrong with that either. __________________ Racing Rice

03-13-2007, 07:41 PM	#19
ohiochica2 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 25	hey now! I really think we need to investigate and get the owner in on this.........i mean it is his board.

03-14-2007, 05:45 PM	#20
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	he can bring the booze __________________

03-14-2007, 06:26 PM	#21
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	Idea for new domain name: www.notaffiliatedwithhonda.com Yeah...where is Kalvin for all of this anyway? __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-19-2007, 05:32 PM	#25
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	I think we all need to ask ourselves...what would Jesus do? __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-21-2007, 11:51 AM	#27
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	We did that, remember? People bitched and moaned. Second idea for a new domain name: www.whatwouldjesusdoinahonda.com I like it. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-21-2007, 04:04 PM	#28
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	simple, yet classy. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

03-22-2007, 05:30 PM	#30
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	But it'd just be all that much more fun to shut them the fuck up. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-22-2007, 09:32 PM	#31
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	lol, well lets get a little serious. hahahahahahahahha __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

03-23-2007, 06:24 AM	#32
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	I honestly think we should go back to the old domain name, put up an entry page like we used to have, and stick a disclaimer at the very top of it that says we are in no way affiliated with Honda. I really don't see how they could bitch about that. And if they did, we could storm their headquarters. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

03-23-2007, 12:20 PM	#33
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	i agree, let do THIS! __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

03-23-2007, 02:44 PM	#34
KwikR6 Mind Blowing Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cloud 69 Age: 45 Posts: 8,871	I'm in agreeance __________________ I JDM. I My Honda The epitome of stupidity is expressed so fluidly with the shity lyric theory you try to spit at me. I CAN'T WAIT FOR SUMMER!!!

03-23-2007, 04:53 PM	#35
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	booyahhh... let's do it! __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

04-05-2007, 07:59 AM	#36
2000Pimpinex Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kentucky Age: 44 Posts: 1,427	OK, I haven't been on much in a while. Can a mod PM me with what happened to Chief or whoever used to run the site. It seems like alot is changing, hopefully for the better. I would really like this site to take off. __________________ 2008 Mustang GT 1998 Hatchback SOLD 1992 Hatchback w/ JDM H22A SOLD 1985 Ford Bronco XLT 5.8 351W w/ 33X12.5X15

04-08-2007, 10:56 AM	#37
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	It'd be cool if someone dedicated some of their time to gathering all the info for new vehicles as they come out and made threads about each one. I always like to hear about new cars anyways. A new name might help, hstuners almost sounds like a forum for highschool kids.

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