Fuck the NFL

[ChrisCantSkate]

your right in that example as far as moral views on it, the problem is its very hard to draw the line to say who can do what and who cant. i agree with thinking that a church should be able, especially in Indianapolis, to show the game to its people, but then what if its a large convention center, or something similar in size? are we just gonna give churches a pass because they are churches? i think even you would say no to that. then the NFL is OKing it for religous groups but not everyone else. But if we say ok to that then why does the NFL charge some places(through the sport packages, NFL network and rights to hang or display their logos, etc., the ones who pay for the rights to show all the games, all the time, to see any and every game, to build your sunday business around showing these sports games, but when its time for the biggest game, when you would draw the biggest crowd in your sports bar for instance, when you could fill the place and make a good buck, some dude rents out a building and dosnt necessarily sell anything, but takes your customers right form under your nose. i dont know man, even if you dont agree with it, thats the reasoning, at least the best i can see it, for the NFL to protect its investment. when your trying to write copyright policy for anything, you cant look at the exceptions and then try building it around there, because that will create loopholes that will be 10x harder to fill down the road after you've pissed everyone off, but the truth is, at the end of the day, i highly doubt anyone actually got in trouble for this. they are trying to protect against the worst case senerio, not lookup up everyone who bought a 55"+ TV from best buy and counting cars in their driveways. when your doing something for your business that could potentially cost you tons of money, or loss of your sponsors or subscribers(this i think would go more to the reg season games not in the areas market, cause the superbowl is "free" since its on network TV) you have to think with your head and not your heart. sure personally i'd love it to be free and have all 16 games on TV every week, but thats cause im a fan, and have no stakes in the company. i dont have to pay their bills, their salaries etc.. if i was their lawyer trying to not rape the people of their money, but to keep it in check so fans and 3rd party non-affiliates arnt making money off us and not paying due compensation, then you have to set the bar somewhere. this is where they chose from their research and whatnot. makes sense to me if you had to pick some guidelines

[GT40FIED]

But see...I think that a SANE copyright law would make special provisions for people who are obviously looking to make money off of the game and leave the average folks who just want to get together (with no money involved) out of it. I mean really...who's it hurting if people get together for a party and no money changes hands? Sure, it's probably hard to figure out who is doing it and who isn't, but I would think that amount of people charging money for a house party is pretty small. If someone is renting out large venues and charging, that's easy enough to figure out. Then again, that's no different than a sports bar. I don't know if sports bars pay out some sort of royalties to respective leagues to show their games, but if they don't then why not shut them all down under copyright violation procedures? I think the NFL and MLB's idea of copyrights is just absolutely insane. Ever listen to their little legal notes during the game? It includes "any descriptions or accounts of the game". What the fuck? That means I can't even tell you about a play afterwards without violating copyright laws. That's absolutely absurd. I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to copyright what is (sort of) their property, but the way they've set it up is tantamount to waving a middle finger at a whole lot of people and serves little or no purpose other than to keep way too much money in a few people's pockets.