Honda FCX

[Robert]

Japan is affriad they will be leap frogged by american fuel cell technology. The same thing happened with hybrids. Billions were spent developing American hybrids, and only the japs made money on it.

BTW - I think hydrogen is a joke. It takes too much energy to produce a product to use. I want an electric car.

[GT40FIED]

Originally Posted by Robert

BTW - I think hydrogen is a joke. It takes too much energy to produce a product to use. I want an electric car.

FINALLY...someone besides me gets it. The only way we currently have of extracting hydrogen (ironically the most abundant element in the universe) is through electrolysis which takes considerably uses energy than it saves once the hydrogen is used in cars. Not to mention the fact that if a hydrogen car were in a bad enough accident it could easily take out a city block. I'm still waiting for E-85 and natural gas to become more widely used...which means it'll first have to be available. I think I've seen one gas station carrying E-85.

[CD5Passion]

Originally Posted by Robert

Japan is affriad they will be leap frogged by american fuel cell technology. The same thing happened with hybrids. Billions were spent developing American hybrids, and only the japs made money on it.

BTW - I think hydrogen is a joke. It takes too much energy to produce a product to use. I want an electric car.

would you please not use the term japs, thanks

did anyone watch the movie on the website I posted? They do have a working model and they do drive it. So it works, sure it takes energy to get the hydrogen but it works. Nothing is perfect when it first is introduced. I strongly beleive they will make it a very efficient car. One thing that bothers me is when I ask people if they would own a electric or anyother kind of fuel efficient vehicle, they say no because they "can't hear the engine". it's a pyschological thing that people need to hear their cars, and it really bugs me.

Honda has had the FCX since 2002

n July 2002, Honda's FCX was certified by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the California Air Resources Board (CARB), making it the first and only fuel cell car in history to be approved for commercial use. CARB and the EPA have also certified the FCX as a Zero-Emission Vehicle (ZEV), Tier-2 Bin 1.n December 2002, the city of Los Angeles began leasing the first of five Honda FCXs, which are now used in normal, everyday activities by city officials. And as the official pace car of the L.A. Marathon for five consecutive years, the FCX has proudly served in some not-so-everyday activities as well.

While the 2005 Honda FCX is our second-generation fuel cell vehicle (FCV), it is the first to be powered by a Honda designed and manufactured fuel cell stack. And it has been certified by both the United States Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA) and the California Air Resources Board (CARB) for commercial use. The 2005 FCX achieves a nearly 20-percent improvement in its EPA fuel economy rating and a 33-percent gain in peak power (107 hp vs. 80 hp) compared to the 2004 FCX.

With an EPA city/highway rating of 62/51 mpkg (57mpkg combined) and an EPA-rated driving range of 190 miles, the hydrogen-powered FCX delivers nearly a 20-percent improvement in fuel efficiency and range versus the 2004 model with an EPA rating of 51/46 mpkg (48 mpkg combined) and a range of 160 miles. In terms of energy efficiency, one mile per kilogram (mpkg) of hydrogen is almost equivalent to one mile per gallon (mpg) of gasoline. The hydrogen-powered Honda FCX has been certified by CARB as a Zero-Emission Vehicle (ZEV) and by the EPA as a Tier-2 Bin 1, the lowest possible national emission rating.

The FCX is a technology of the future that's becoming more and more prevalent today. Keep an eye out for FCX sightings-because you definitely won't smell them coming.

http://corporate.honda.com/environme...fuel_cells_fcx