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*AzCivic* · 08-07-2006, 08:02 PM

well thank goodness you don't think they're out to get you, just the thousands who died in the towers..

so not only do they resist fire they also resist the impact of a boeing jet?

presence of thermite or the by products of thermite? did you know all the ingredients for a thermite reaction were already in the wtc, like aluminum from the aircraft, rust, gypsum, and concrete? so yes there might've been thermite reactions.

so which is it? were explosives used to take down the building or were strategically placed packages of thermite used?

oh and it was a B25 that hit the empire state building (not a B52) which is around 1/10th the weight of a boeing 767, and with about a tenth the fuel as well and a speed of probably half that of the boeing jets. 1/10th the weight, 1/10 the fuel and half the speed probably means much less damage.

GT40FIED · 08-07-2006, 11:13 PM

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? "Well...the ingredients were there, so that explains that". That's like saying "well...there's a huge mess is my kitchen, but I had baking soda and vinegar and they could react together so that must have been it". That's not even to mention that to create a proper reaction between the components of thermite or thermate all of the ingredients have to be extremely finely ground. Merely having chunks of the ingredients around won't work.

And does it really matter what kind of plane hit the Empire State building? Whether it was a B25 or a B52, you're talking about a large plane that crashed into a building built in the 1930s and not at all built to withstand such an impact. Both towers were over-engineered to withstand a hit from an extremely large commercial airliner. Not only is the Empire State building still standing, but you'd never know it was hit by anything, let alone a large military plane.

You know it just occured to me that I've gone through all of this and haven't even mentioned the Pentagon. Haha. I could do this forever.

08-07-2006, 11:13 PM	#2
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 44 Posts: 7,451	Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? "Well...the ingredients were there, so that explains that". That's like saying "well...there's a huge mess is my kitchen, but I had baking soda and vinegar and they could react together so that must have been it". That's not even to mention that to create a proper reaction between the components of thermite or thermate all of the ingredients have to be extremely finely ground. Merely having chunks of the ingredients around won't work. And does it really matter what kind of plane hit the Empire State building? Whether it was a B25 or a B52, you're talking about a large plane that crashed into a building built in the 1930s and not at all built to withstand such an impact. Both towers were over-engineered to withstand a hit from an extremely large commercial airliner. Not only is the Empire State building still standing, but you'd never know it was hit by anything, let alone a large military plane. You know it just occured to me that I've gone through all of this and haven't even mentioned the Pentagon. Haha. I could do this forever. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

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08-07-2006, 08:02 PM	#1
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	well thank goodness you don't think they're out to get you, just the thousands who died in the towers.. so not only do they resist fire they also resist the impact of a boeing jet? presence of thermite or the by products of thermite? did you know all the ingredients for a thermite reaction were already in the wtc, like aluminum from the aircraft, rust, gypsum, and concrete? so yes there might've been thermite reactions. so which is it? were explosives used to take down the building or were strategically placed packages of thermite used? oh and it was a B25 that hit the empire state building (not a B52) which is around 1/10th the weight of a boeing 767, and with about a tenth the fuel as well and a speed of probably half that of the boeing jets. 1/10th the weight, 1/10 the fuel and half the speed probably means much less damage.