welding with water? WTF???

[nonovurbizniz]

Originally Posted by HondaImpaler

Also he'ss not welding with water. There was no such example of joining two metals together with this process. Not even cutting, as he suggested replacing an oxy/acetylene torch. You would still need a high pressure stream of oxygen to oxidize the metal in order to cut through. He is just supplying mass heat to a small area. Still impressive, but let's not give too much credit.

OH YES HE IS...

http://hytechapps.com/applications/index.html

Welding
Aquygen™ Gas can weld glass, copper, aluminum, and carbon steel

Even in the orig. video I posted he's cutting the metals...

[Gone]

Okay well that's what those cold heat solders are supposed to do at least. It's "new" technology they need to spend time working with it. At least their concept is correct. I have an electrical solder that hardly gets hot so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[HondaImpaler]

Originally Posted by nonovurbizniz

OH YES HE IS...

http://hytechapps.com/applications/index.html

Welding
Aquygen™ Gas can weld glass, copper, aluminum, and carbon steel

Even in the orig. video I posted he's cutting the metals...

Yeah, but cutting is a hell of a lot different than welding. And he's basically just melting holes in shit, not doing precise cuts.

I would like to see him weld with the gas, I think it is a cool idea and something I'm open to, but until I do see it I'll be sceptical. I understand you could do a good job soldering but welding is a whole different monkey.

[KwikR6]

Anybody here an actual welder

[Addict]

I'm glad to see somone pursuing this. We need to look at all avenues of alternate fuels.

Originally Posted by nonovurbizniz

OH YES HE IS...

OH NO HE'S NOT.....
He's not welding or cutting with water. He's using 220v to produce HHO or Aquygen as they call it. That gas is what's used to do the cutting of the metal. Cutting with water is what you do with a waterjet system.

Originally Posted by nonovurbizniz

well apparently this technology isn't too new... just a new process I guess...

A. You can not do ANYTHING with the land that a gas station has been on EXCEPT open another gas station for like 10-20 years.

Might want to double check that. They seem to have no issues around here using that land for other purposes. They just remove the in ground tanks. Its not a radioactive site or anything.

B. They would NEVER let water be held in the same tanks or the same are where tanks once held gas.

Non-potable water maybe. I'm sure the tanks can be cleaned.

Originally Posted by KwikR6

Anybody here an actual welder

No but I play one on TV.....

[nonovurbizniz]

Originally Posted by Addict

I'm glad to see somone pursuing this. We need to look at all avenues of alternate fuels.

I'm sure your approval of his research into alternate fuels is VERY comforting to him.

Originally Posted by Addict

OH NO HE'S NOT.....
He's not welding or cutting with water. He's using 220v to produce HHO or Aquygen as they call it. That gas is what's used to do the cutting of the metal. Cutting with water is what you do with a waterjet system.

Hey why don't you play symantic games some more...
A. The FUEL is WATER. Just because it's converted doesn't make it ANY less amazing.

B. Not sure how anyone is still arguing the welding point considering the QUOTE (which I've already put in a previous post) below:

Welding
Aquygen™ Gas can weld glass, copper, aluminum, and carbon steel.

So sounds like it can weld to me...

Originally Posted by Addict

Might want to double check that. They seem to have no issues around here using that land for other purposes. They just remove the in ground tanks. Its not a radioactive site or anything.

The second station my friends father owned has been shut down and boarded up for over 10 years... BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET ANYONE open another business besides gas there and the gas station keep going under because it's got too much competition. Maybe that's CT only but I don't see how... I've NEVER worked at a gas station that didn't have all sorts of EPA restrictions on it's land.

Originally Posted by Addict

Non-potable water maybe. I'm sure the tanks can be cleaned.

If the water is as efficient as stated by it's proponents then there would be NO financial viability in either converting a gas station to hold water NOR to have water distribution centers... YES that's an opinion... however I'd like to see an arguement that contradicts it. If they used 4oz or whatever for 100mile trip... YOU WON"T NEED TO FILL UP THAT OFTEN... AND the profit margins will be REDICULOUSLY lower than Fossil Fuels... the reason oil companies make so much money is that they ALREADY HAVE the refineries and the distribution network... Changing over to water would sink them... THEN they'd be good an buried once they tried to earn a profit selling what even 50 gallons of WATER a week to the average consumer?.

Originally Posted by Addict

No but I play one on TV.....

Right well, I'm not a welder by trade but I've done my fair share of welding with just a torch. And frankly to say that's not welding is borderline retarded...

[Addict]

Originally Posted by nonovurbizniz

I'm sure your approval of his research into alternate fuels is VERY comforting to him.

I don't care if its him or someone else. You have to at least explore the possibilities.

Hey why don't you play symantic games some more...
A. The FUEL is WATER. Just because it's converted doesn't make it ANY less amazing.

Did I say it was less amazing? No I didn't. The fact that he has the process down to convert water into a usable fuel is amazing. Again though, the water is NOT doing the cutting. I'm not really into semantics anyhow.

B. Not sure how anyone is still arguing the welding point considering the QUOTE (which I've already put in a previous post) below:

Welding
Aquygen™ Gas can weld glass, copper, aluminum, and carbon steel.

So sounds like it can weld to me...

They may say it welds, but I haven't seen it do so in their demos. Sure it can fuse metals if that's what you mean. But that's different than welding.

The second station my friends father owned has been shut down and boarded up for over 10 years... BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET ANYONE open another business besides gas there and the gas station keep going under because it's got too much competition. Maybe that's CT only but I don't see how... I've NEVER worked at a gas station that didn't have all sorts of EPA restrictions on it's land.

I'm sure they are regulated to the 'T', but I know for fact that the land can be re-used in less than 10 years.

If the water is as efficient as stated by it's proponents then there would be NO financial viability in either converting a gas station to hold water NOR to have water distribution centers... YES that's an opinion... however I'd like to see an arguement that contradicts it. If they used 4oz or whatever for 100mile trip... YOU WON"T NEED TO FILL UP THAT OFTEN... AND the profit margins will be REDICULOUSLY lower than Fossil Fuels... the reason oil companies make so much money is that they ALREADY HAVE the refineries and the distribution network... Changing over to water would sink them... THEN they'd be good an buried once they tried to earn a profit selling what even 50 gallons of WATER a week to the average consumer?.

Sure it may not be worth cleaning up the tanks to store the water, but that's not to say it can't be done.

Right well, I'm not a welder by trade but I've done my fair share of welding with just a torch. And frankly to say that's not welding is borderline retarded...

Borderline reatarded? You may want to look up the difference between welding and fusing. There is a difference. I've done enough welding to know that at least. You can even look on the the HyTechApps applications page and see that for yourself. So before you start with name calling, make sure you get your facts straight.

[HondaImpaler]

Originally Posted by nonovurbizniz

B. Not sure how anyone is still arguing the welding point considering the QUOTE (which I've already put in a previous post) below:

Welding
Aquygen™ Gas can weld glass, copper, aluminum, and carbon steel.

So sounds like it can weld to me...

Right well, I'm not a welder by trade but I've done my fair share of welding with just a torch. And frankly to say that's not welding is borderline retarded...

You've got a couple great points there. The actual quote says it can weld various materials, so it MUST be able to. I also slept with Tila Nguyen, Janine Lindemulder, and Jenna Jameson while I hit a hole in one on a 598 yard golf hole (#13) and pounding a nice cold Stella Artois. Feel free to QUOTE me on this.

And your fair share of torch welding does make you an expert in the field of welding. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it. I know because I've been welding for 6+ years and have my journeyman ticket.

That's actually the first question on the interprovincial exam:

1. Have you welded with a torch before? If yes, that makes you:
A. An expert
B. A cow
C. A plumber

Strangely enough, the second question on the test is also related to this post:

2. If someone tells you they can weld something and you don't believe them you are:
A. A pickled carrot
B. A border-line retard
C. A rectangle

Pretty obvious answers once you think about it...

[KwikR6]

Originally Posted by HondaImpaler

You've got a couple great points there. The actual quote says it can weld various materials, so it MUST be able to. I also slept with Tila Nguyen, Janine Lindemulder, and Jenna Jameson while I hit a hole in one on a 598 yard golf hole (#13) and pounding a nice cold Stella Artois. Feel free to QUOTE me on this.

And your fair share of torch welding does make you an expert in the field of welding. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it. I know because I've been welding for 6+ years and have my journeyman ticket.

That's actually the first question on the interprovincial exam:

1. Have you welded with a torch before? If yes, that makes you:
A. An expert
B. A cow
C. A plumber

Strangely enough, the second question on the test is also related to this post:

2. If someone tells you they can weld something and you don't believe them you are:
A. A pickled carrot
B. A border-line retard
C. A rectangle

Pretty obvious answers once you think about it...

B and C?

[nonovurbizniz]

Originally Posted by HondaImpaler

You've got a couple great points there. The actual quote says it can weld various materials, so it MUST be able to. I also slept with Tila Nguyen, Janine Lindemulder, and Jenna Jameson while I hit a hole in one on a 598 yard golf hole (#13) and pounding a nice cold Stella Artois. Feel free to QUOTE me on this.

You are not a company nor are you selling anything... If they were selling this piece of equipment and saying it could do things it's incappable of they'd be out of business by now. It's called false advertising.

Also if your statement above was even remotely constituted something that could be taken seriously by ANYONE then ALL of those women would be within their rights to sue you.

Originally Posted by HondaImpaler

And your fair share of torch welding does make you an expert in the field of welding. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it. I know because I've been welding for 6+ years and have my journeyman ticket.

That's actually the first question on the interprovincial exam:

1. Have you welded with a torch before? If yes, that makes you:
A. An expert
B. A cow
C. A plumber

Strangely enough, the second question on the test is also related to this post:

2. If someone tells you they can weld something and you don't believe them you are:
A. A pickled carrot
B. A border-line retard
C. A rectangle

Pretty obvious answers once you think about it...

OOOOOOO I did the unholy and actually called brazing welding I'm SOOOO sorry...

P.S. you called yourself retarded in your second question... YOU are the one doubting me... so YOU are "B".... by your above sentance at least (I'm guessing what you meant to type would be "if someone questions YOUR ability to weld THEY are A. B. C.).

AGAIN... my MAIN point is that it DOES in fact say on their retail website that it CAN weld... So I will take them at their word... figuring that if they were selling a nearly 8k dollar "welder" and it didn't "weld" people would probobly be pretty pissed at this point.

I'm sure if I was such a versed expert like EVERYONE on here seems to be I would reserve my judgement till the REAL PROOF... an internet video is released.

[CD5Passion]

Originally Posted by HondaImpaler

You've got a couple great points there. The actual quote says it can weld various materials, so it MUST be able to. I also slept with Tila Nguyen, Janine Lindemulder, and Jenna Jameson while I hit a hole in one on a 598 yard golf hole (#13) and pounding a nice cold Stella Artois. Feel free to QUOTE me on this.

And your fair share of torch welding does make you an expert in the field of welding. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of it. I know because I've been welding for 6+ years and have my journeyman ticket.

That's actually the first question on the interprovincial exam:

1. Have you welded with a torch before? If yes, that makes you:
A. An expert
B. A cow
C. A plumber

Strangely enough, the second question on the test is also related to this post:

2. If someone tells you they can weld something and you don't believe them you are:
A. A pickled carrot
B. A border-line retard
C. A rectangle

Pretty obvious answers once you think about it...

hahahah funniest shit ever

[KwikR6]

Originally Posted by Addict

No but I play one on TV.....

Really? Becuase I know a welder. Good friend of mine actually. Maybe I should get him to chirp in on this one.....hahahahahaha