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[Robert]

GT do leave America, it would be better off without the likes of you and your friends.

Your extreemly judgemental and not tollorant at all. I find that rather hipocritical of you.

As for why some Christians have trouble following the faith so closely; they're flawed, just like you are. However they're not trying to negatively effect your life.

You got issues, and it would be for the better of everyone if you would shut up. So take your misguided anger, sadness and recentment for the life you lead and put it in a box. Don't open it again around anyone or post anymore of your internet vomit on this board.

[GT40FIED]

Originally Posted by Robert

GT do leave America, it would be better off without the likes of you and your friends.

Your extreemly judgemental and not tollorant at all. I find that rather hipocritical of you.

As for why some Christians have trouble following the faith so closely; they're flawed, just like you are. However they're not trying to negatively effect your life.

You got issues, and it would be for the better of everyone if you would shut up. So take your misguided anger, sadness and recentment for the life you lead and put it in a box. Don't open it again around anyone or post anymore of your internet vomit on this board.

This from a Canadian. Hate to break it to you, but I'm not going anywhere. If you think that fixing what you deem to be problems in a given system is to run away then...well...I guess that's why you live in Canada and want to move here. Hate to break it to you, but I personify this country a lot more than you might think. I've spent my whole life working twice as hard as most other people just to get to the same place. I'm not sure how you gathered that my friends are anything like me, but...well...you're not the brightest bulb in the box so whatever. You know...maybe I am extremely judgemental, not tolerant and hypocritical (italics used to correct your spelling errors). Then again, it's probably just you. But being judgemental is part of being a human being. We measure people and things up all day every day and anyone who says they don't is a liar. Take yourself for instance. You don't agree with much of anything I have to say, but I'm sure as soon as you see that I've posted you just have to click on it just so you can get "offended" by my difference of opinion (which is fairly weak willed and servile in and of itself). Don't like it? Don't fuckin' read it. Do you sit around watching shit you don't want to on TV? No. Though I assure you, your witty banter will surely be missed. Or not. Moving on...

As for that last little psuedo-paragraph...I actually disagree with Wren. I don't think it was harsh. I think it was moronic, childish, and above all judgemental. Bad christian! No jesus! Seriously...I didn't direct anything at you, yet what you posted was completely inappropriate. It's the kind of thing that you like to ramble on and on about me doing. I might have actually gotten offended if it hadn't been so half assed and genuinely angry. It's just a computer, man.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by GT40FIED

This from a Canadian. Hate to break it to you, but I'm not going anywhere. If you think that fixing what you deem to be problems in a given system is to run away then...well...I guess that's why you live in Canada and want to move here. Hate to break it to you, but I personify this country a lot more than you might think. I've spent my whole life working twice as hard as most other people just to get to the same place. I'm not sure how you gathered that my friends are anything like me, but...well...you're not the brightest bulb in the box so whatever. You know...maybe I am extremely judgemental, not tolerant and hypocritical (italics used to correct your spelling errors). Then again, it's probably just you. But being judgemental is part of being a human being. We measure people and things up all day every day and anyone who says they don't is a liar. Take yourself for instance. You don't agree with much of anything I have to say, but I'm sure as soon as you see that I've posted you just have to click on it just so you can get "offended" by my difference of opinion (which is fairly weak willed and servile in and of itself). Don't like it? Don't fuckin' read it. Do you sit around watching shit you don't want to on TV? No. Though I assure you, your witty banter will surely be missed. Or not. Moving on...

As for that last little psuedo-paragraph...I actually disagree with Wren. I don't think it was harsh. I think it was moronic, childish, and above all judgemental. Bad christian! No jesus! Seriously...I didn't direct anything at you, yet what you posted was completely inappropriate. It's the kind of thing that you like to ramble on and on about me doing. I might have actually gotten offended if it hadn't been so half assed and genuinely angry. It's just a computer, man.

Can you control your erge to vomit all over my screen?

If you worked twice as hard as everyone else for reason I wont sling in your face them I'm supprised you are so quick to judge others lacking because they are different.

Churches give back to their local commities until just about any other single organization. Many recent non-profit organizations base their mission statements of Christian beliefs. Look into why their are 12 steps in AA or check out a local food bank. My church here in Toronto, feeds 1200 people every week; coming out of my donations to the church.

If you want to talk about the reasons for my moving, you can ask me that in another read.

Stay on point.

Your rants, and thats all they ever are. Are filled with anger, and misguided anger. I suspect from your twisted view of religion you have had some bad experiences and/or you hate God for the way you are or the things that have happened in your life. What the reason is for you to figure out.

I'm sorry if thats the case, but getting angry about it, posting crap bashing Christianity and sugguesting they are a drain on your local town is a joke. If anything you should be angry with wal-mart for the drain on your local town.

What I think you should go do is look into a doctor situation who can treat you for your ADD, and see a shrink over your inner anger issues. Cause you have issues. Look at a majority of your threads you start and you'll just see what I'm talking about.

As for not being right with God, that would be between Him and me. "all things are possible with God' so I'm not concerned with your views on how my posting my differ from your thoughts on what the bible says to saying such things. When you bash on my religion I will not hold my tounge.

BTW God loves you. PM me with any other question you have an going to church, I'll be happy to send you to one in your local area.

[GT40FIED]

Yes, because the real problem is that I don't know anything about religion. Forget that I was raised by an ex priest and a reformist catholic mother. Forget that I've spent a good part of my life studying theology to find anything that closely meshes with my own beliefs. The fact that I'm still looking at 24 should tell you just how long I've been at it. But you're right...I know zip about religion...especially christianity.

Why the fuck would I set my own house on fire and not call the FD? I pay my fucking taxes which is more than I can say for any church. That's really pretty inane.

As for a "personal attack" against Rob...quid pro quo. Don't be a douche if you can't take some in return. If he would've responded appropriately I would have done so in kind, so quit crying.

If a church's job is to do god's work by giving back to the community, why is there so much money left over to buy bigger and better churches? Does god's will include extravagant light shows for X-mas and Easter and so much seating that they need giant plasma screens just so the people in the cheap seats can see the preacher/priest? No. It's all a competition. Rather than doing "god's work" they try to pull more members in and see who can do it bigger and better. If you can afford all of that shit, you can afford to pay taxes. I'm not denying that some churches do good things. But weigh it against their personal interests and you might be on the losing end of that one.

I'm not sure why you're so concerned with my mental health Rob. I don't have ADD...never have. I won't apologize for having a lot of ideas...but I'm sure you're not used to running into people who actually think. I don't really have anger issues...I'm actually a pretty laid back guy. I will not, however, sit idly by and watch shit that pisses me off and not say anything about it. If you want to call me intolerant, that's cool. However slandering someone for not believing the same thing you do seems pretty fucking intolerant, doesn't it? And by the way, that's what all of the shit you're trying to convince me is wrong with myself is...slander. You don't know me. You know a screen name on a computer 2000 miles away, yet you presume to know how I think and feel. Good thinkin' there, champ.

You see...to feel wronged by god, I'd have to acknowledge him/her/it in the first place. Since I don't (at least not in the same manner you do), how can I possibly feel wronged by god? Likewise, how can I hate someone I don't believe exists? I know sunday school and CCD classes fill your head with trite bullshit about how anyone who doesn't believe is misguided or full of hate. Trust me, I've been there. But they've excluded free will from the equation. There a lot of things in this world that are hard to explain without some sort of supernatural force...but the flipside of that coin is also true. To completely exclude on side of that is just insane. So insane, I may try to get religious fanaticism introduced into the DSM IV (that would be the "diagnostic and statistics manual of mental health disorders").

So, in closing, I'll just say I'm as right with your god as I'll ever be...which is not at all. The only difference is that I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm not foolish enough to think that I can change someone's deep seeded beliefs into anything. Apparently you don't share such clarity.