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C's 94 InTeGrA · 06-30-2004, 02:10 AM

Went up to the dragstrip tonight to see how i would do. I duno if i am that happy or not. Here is my best

reaction: .219
60ft: 2.406
330ft: 6.699
1/8 ET: 10.258
1/8 MPH: 69.03
1000 ET: 13.237
1/4 ET: 15.802
1/4 MPH: 88.39

Just take in consideration i only have a cold air intake and full exhaust and thats about it. Nothing done fuel wise yet. My header wil be here this weekend so i can get that slapped on and maybe that will help some too. But what else can i do to get this damn thing to run a little faster??

thermal · 06-30-2004, 02:13 AM

hmmm.... at what boost? Are you running the Jackson FMU?

C's 94 InTeGrA · 06-30-2004, 02:14 AM

stock pulley that comes with it runs 5 pounds and yes i am using that FMU

GT40FIED · 06-30-2004, 03:04 AM

Hmmm...that e.t. sounds pretty high for (what I'm assuming is) a B series motor. There's something just not right with those times. That sounds like what you'd be pulling stock. I'd try some serious dyno tuning to see where your engine's at since it sounds like you've got a gremlin somewhere.

JDMFantasy2k · 06-30-2004, 11:05 AM

sorry but no way he'd pull those times on a stock b19 a/b, if it's a c then by all means. I raced a kid with a b18a, and a short ram intake and i still beat him, it was close but reguardless because i think i'm in the 16.4ish range maybe if i'm lucky.

also didn't he say he had a jackson racing supercharger?

*KwikR6* · 06-30-2004, 01:27 PM

Yes it supercharged.
As for what I would do, maybe get a different pully to up your boost a few punds like to maybe 7 and get some dyno time.
I'm N/A and I run a 15.6 with no traction.
I have an intake, header, exhaust, TB.

C's 94 InTeGrA · 07-01-2004, 12:17 AM

ITs just the B18B non-vtec. ya i am really considering it. my header is getin put on friday so we will see how that is.

C's 94 InTeGrA · 07-01-2004, 12:54 AM

I think i need to do some stuff to my fuel. Like upgrade the pump or injectors ect. Pulley would be nice as well. I was told to retard my timing more.

IALuder · 07-01-2004, 01:18 AM

my friend ran his LS teg with cold air intake and got those times. something is defenty wrong. im not sure what it is. but thats no where near what i think you should be running.

GT40FIED · 07-01-2004, 01:24 AM

The only reason you should pull timing out would be if you've got detonation. You probably just need more fuel. With 5psi I'd normally say that the stock pump and injectors should be fine, but maybe not with times like that. I still say get it dyno'ed and tune it while it's on the dyno.

C's 94 InTeGrA · 07-01-2004, 11:37 AM

Yea i think its fuel. It was sad cause they was a 93 teg running me in grudge matches with only a intake and exhaust was beating me!! But his 60ft's and reaction times were just awesome.

*pdiggitydogg* · 07-01-2004, 05:37 PM

well...the header is a big part of s/c applications...right now youve got a bottleneck - but not enough to have that much effect, Id think.
The blower for the 18b is kinda small imo. A crv crank pulley would change the boost to 10-11 (some say 12)psi...and its a lot cheaper than a jr piece. (Youd need a belt thats 865mm then)

GT40FIED · 07-01-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
The blower for the 18b is kinda small imo. A crv crank pulley would change the boost to 10-11 (some say 12)psi...and its a lot cheaper than a jr piece. (Youd need a belt thats 865mm then)

Yeah...but even with more boost you're still working with a 450cc blower...it's not gonna push a ton of cfm. It'd certainly help to up the boost, but it will also effect the blower's adiabatic efficiency so the gains won't be huge unless you wanted to fab an intercooler or something like that.

C's 94 InTeGrA · 07-01-2004, 06:48 PM

Ya i heard if i get that header on it will defs noitce a big differance. Especially the kamakazie which is what i got.

JDMFantasy2k · 07-01-2004, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SFKing
my friend ran his LS teg with cold air intake and got those times. something is defenty wrong. im not sure what it is. but thats no where near what i think you should be running.

are you sure that's all he had?
i pulled away from a ls teg with a short ram, and i figure my 1/4 times would be in the mid 16's?

*AzCivic* · 07-02-2004, 01:04 AM

damn you got the b18 w/ a supercharger and you're only trapping at 88mph!? i'd take a look at whats wrong before slapping much more than a header on.

*pdiggitydogg* · 07-02-2004, 09:36 AM

jdm - if you pulled on an ls teg then there was something wrong w/ it. Its faster than a D16, any day of the week as long as its in good shape and the driver isnt incapable.

A Kamikaze should really help you out...those things are massive compared to stock. Look into the water induction system jr uses...it should be good for a few more hp and definately help keep the air cooler...which really could be a large part of the problem.

But, like az said....there could be something else wrong. You did do a leak/compression test beforehand, right?

C's 94 InTeGrA · 07-02-2004, 12:34 PM

Ya i think so too. JR makes a water induction system? never seen that before. And no i never did a compresion or leakdown test

*pdiggitydogg* · 07-02-2004, 12:40 PM

Liquid Intercooler Unit

http://www.jacksonracing.com/Shop/Vi...eIndexID=33358

Go get the tests done right now...doesnt take long and shouldnt be expensive. Hopefully everything's fine w/ the motor. (You really really shouldve done this before you put the sc on)

C's 94 InTeGrA · 07-03-2004, 02:03 AM

yea i know... WOW!! $600 for that.. man. i barley even have enough to buy my header

JDMFantasy2k · 07-03-2004, 12:40 PM

yea it was an older teg, and i'm willing to bet he wasn't as good of a driver either.

07-03-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Black Del Sol
Yes it supercharged.
As for what I would do, maybe get a different pully to up your boost a few punds like to maybe 7 and get some dyno time.
I'm N/A and I run a 15.6 with no traction.
I have an intake, header, exhaust, TB.

Well, at least im not the only one who runs a 15.6.

C's 94 InTeGrA · 07-04-2004, 02:03 AM

Well today. I took it down to my tuner and i finalyl got a fuel pressure gauge so i can se what i am pumping for fuel and he turned up the FMU a lot and it seems its getting more fuel to it now and feels a little bit faster. Friday night i am going to the local track here its a 1/4 mile and practice my reaction and 60fts

*AzCivic* · 07-04-2004, 04:12 AM

practicing isnt going to have much impact on your trap speeds, and they're what tell you how much power your making.

your trapping right at what cash was in w/ his stock b16, yet you have a bigger motor and a supercharger.

somethings just weird about this, maybe i'm just expecting more from your setup or something.

07-04-2004, 12:44 PM

^ werd. My first run which was terrible was 15.8 at 88 mph.

BTW, integras b18b - run aroung 16.0 with i/h/e.

06-30-2004, 02:10 AM	#1
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	Ran the teg tonight. Need some input! Went up to the dragstrip tonight to see how i would do. I duno if i am that happy or not. Here is my best reaction: .219 60ft: 2.406 330ft: 6.699 1/8 ET: 10.258 1/8 MPH: 69.03 1000 ET: 13.237 1/4 ET: 15.802 1/4 MPH: 88.39 Just take in consideration i only have a cold air intake and full exhaust and thats about it. Nothing done fuel wise yet. My header wil be here this weekend so i can get that slapped on and maybe that will help some too. But what else can i do to get this damn thing to run a little faster?? __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

06-30-2004, 02:13 AM	#2
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	hmmm.... at what boost? Are you running the Jackson FMU? __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

06-30-2004, 02:14 AM	#3
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	stock pulley that comes with it runs 5 pounds and yes i am using that FMU __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

06-30-2004, 03:04 AM	#4
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 44 Posts: 7,451	Hmmm...that e.t. sounds pretty high for (what I'm assuming is) a B series motor. There's something just not right with those times. That sounds like what you'd be pulling stock. I'd try some serious dyno tuning to see where your engine's at since it sounds like you've got a gremlin somewhere. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

06-30-2004, 11:05 AM	#5
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 38 Posts: 1,765	sorry but no way he'd pull those times on a stock b19 a/b, if it's a c then by all means. I raced a kid with a b18a, and a short ram intake and i still beat him, it was close but reguardless because i think i'm in the 16.4ish range maybe if i'm lucky. also didn't he say he had a jackson racing supercharger? __________________

06-30-2004, 01:27 PM	#6
KwikR6 Mind Blowing Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cloud 69 Age: 45 Posts: 8,871	Yes it supercharged. As for what I would do, maybe get a different pully to up your boost a few punds like to maybe 7 and get some dyno time. I'm N/A and I run a 15.6 with no traction. I have an intake, header, exhaust, TB. __________________ I JDM. I My Honda The epitome of stupidity is expressed so fluidly with the shity lyric theory you try to spit at me. I CAN'T WAIT FOR SUMMER!!!

07-01-2004, 12:17 AM	#7
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	ITs just the B18B non-vtec. ya i am really considering it. my header is getin put on friday so we will see how that is. __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

07-01-2004, 12:54 AM	#8
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	I think i need to do some stuff to my fuel. Like upgrade the pump or injectors ect. Pulley would be nice as well. I was told to retard my timing more. __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

07-01-2004, 01:18 AM	#9
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 39 Posts: 7,908	my friend ran his LS teg with cold air intake and got those times. something is defenty wrong. im not sure what it is. but thats no where near what i think you should be running. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

07-01-2004, 01:24 AM	#10
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 44 Posts: 7,451	The only reason you should pull timing out would be if you've got detonation. You probably just need more fuel. With 5psi I'd normally say that the stock pump and injectors should be fine, but maybe not with times like that. I still say get it dyno'ed and tune it while it's on the dyno. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

07-01-2004, 11:37 AM	#11
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	Yea i think its fuel. It was sad cause they was a 93 teg running me in grudge matches with only a intake and exhaust was beating me!! But his 60ft's and reaction times were just awesome. __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

07-01-2004, 05:37 PM	#12
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	well...the header is a big part of s/c applications...right now youve got a bottleneck - but not enough to have that much effect, Id think. The blower for the 18b is kinda small imo. A crv crank pulley would change the boost to 10-11 (some say 12)psi...and its a lot cheaper than a jr piece. (Youd need a belt thats 865mm then)

07-01-2004, 06:48 PM	#14
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	Ya i heard if i get that header on it will defs noitce a big differance. Especially the kamakazie which is what i got. __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

07-02-2004, 01:04 AM	#16
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	damn you got the b18 w/ a supercharger and you're only trapping at 88mph!? i'd take a look at whats wrong before slapping much more than a header on.

07-02-2004, 09:36 AM	#17
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	jdm - if you pulled on an ls teg then there was something wrong w/ it. Its faster than a D16, any day of the week as long as its in good shape and the driver isnt incapable. A Kamikaze should really help you out...those things are massive compared to stock. Look into the water induction system jr uses...it should be good for a few more hp and definately help keep the air cooler...which really could be a large part of the problem. But, like az said....there could be something else wrong. You did do a leak/compression test beforehand, right?

07-02-2004, 12:34 PM	#18
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	Ya i think so too. JR makes a water induction system? never seen that before. And no i never did a compresion or leakdown test __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

07-02-2004, 12:40 PM	#19
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	Liquid Intercooler Unit http://www.jacksonracing.com/Shop/Vi...eIndexID=33358 Go get the tests done right now...doesnt take long and shouldnt be expensive. Hopefully everything's fine w/ the motor. (You really really shouldve done this before you put the sc on)

07-03-2004, 02:03 AM	#20
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	yea i know... WOW!! $600 for that.. man. i barley even have enough to buy my header __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

07-03-2004, 12:40 PM	#21
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 38 Posts: 1,765	yea it was an older teg, and i'm willing to bet he wasn't as good of a driver either. __________________

07-04-2004, 02:03 AM	#23
C's 94 InTeGrA 4th Gear Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dover, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 858	Well today. I took it down to my tuner and i finalyl got a fuel pressure gauge so i can se what i am pumping for fuel and he turned up the FMU a lot and it seems its getting more fuel to it now and feels a little bit faster. Friday night i am going to the local track here its a 1/4 mile and practice my reaction and 60fts __________________ 2003 Apex Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8

07-04-2004, 04:12 AM	#24
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	practicing isnt going to have much impact on your trap speeds, and they're what tell you how much power your making. your trapping right at what cash was in w/ his stock b16, yet you have a bigger motor and a supercharger. somethings just weird about this, maybe i'm just expecting more from your setup or something.

07-04-2004, 12:44 PM	#25
cashizslick Posts: n/a	^ werd. My first run which was terrible was 15.8 at 88 mph. BTW, integras b18b - run aroung 16.0 with i/h/e.

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