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Grip72 · 02-16-2003, 09:49 PM

Ok my friend is selling a 1991 Eagle Talon Turbo with AWD and he wants to get around 5000 CDN for it...do you think this would be a wise investment..what are your guys' inputs about Talons..i want this, a new car, or a h22

ShEaNy · 02-16-2003, 10:00 PM

h22 like i always say..come buddy keep it real with the accords

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-16-2003, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Accord17
Ok my friend is selling a 1991 Eagle Talon Turbo with AWD and he wants to get around 5000 CDN for it...do you think this would be a wise investment..what are your guys' inputs about Talons..i want this, a new car, or a h22

whats your budjet? can you pull the block apart and change the rod berrings? if you can... i have a vid of a 4g63 putting down 612hp 575tq

ShEaNy · 02-16-2003, 10:11 PM

can u post that vid?

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-16-2003, 10:16 PM

i cant find it

ShEaNy · 02-16-2003, 10:17 PM

Grip72 · 02-16-2003, 10:18 PM

Quote:

i have a vid of a 4g63 putting down 612hp 575tq

what is 4g63? and what does changine the rod bearings do and cost??

*AzCivic* · 02-16-2003, 11:06 PM

its the engine code, and it'll cost alot if you dont do it yourself.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-16-2003, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Accord17
what is 4g63? and what does changine the rod bearings do and cost??

changing the rod bearings to help reduce the change of crankwalk

*AzCivic* · 02-16-2003, 11:10 PM

actually that Gen talon/eclipse doesnt have a problem with crank walk. its the 2nd gen that got screwed.

*AzCivic* · 02-16-2003, 11:12 PM

A good DSM website: http://www.machv.com/

ebpda9 · 02-16-2003, 11:13 PM

yup a newer version of the 4g63 will be here this spring on the EVO8 271 hp and 275 tq

newly found respect for mitsus

*AzCivic* · 02-16-2003, 11:31 PM

To answer the original question, yes you should. Assuming its in decent condition.

02-17-2003, 04:54 AM

I'm no DSM expert, but I read alot about them. I would say yes too if you can afford it. I know afew people around my city that run high 11's and low 12's with really not much cash into them.

Just remember DSM's do have some issues. But if you take car of it and DO ALL routine maintenance you should be ok.

From what I've read 1g's can crankwalk and dont even know it. "1g's use the cam angle sensor to sense cam angle, and cank angle. No crank angle sensor to die and let you know it has walked. So some 1gs may get it and never notice. The motor may die of natural cuases before it is properly diagnosed." So I would def check into that.

Here is a great dsm site. http://www.racingknowledge.com

02-17-2003, 08:26 AM

TSI talons are nice, but i hear they are real unreliable.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-17-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by cashizslick
TSI talons are nice, but i hear they are real unreliable.

the motor is as reliable as a h22 when you boil it down

*AzCivic* · 02-17-2003, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by Djsteals
I'm no DSM expert, but I read alot about them. I would say yes too if you can afford it. I know afew people around my city that run high 11's and low 12's with really not much cash into them.

Just remember DSM's do have some issues. But if you take car of it and DO ALL routine maintenance you should be ok.

From what I've read 1g's can crankwalk and dont even know it. "1g's use the cam angle sensor to sense cam angle, and cank angle. No crank angle sensor to die and let you know it has walked. So some 1gs may get it and never notice. The motor may die of natural cuases before it is properly diagnosed." So I would def check into that.

Here is a great dsm site. http://www.racingknowledge.com

http://www.machv.com/wal19tur.html

*AzCivic* · 02-17-2003, 10:00 AM

"The biggest indicator that you might have this problem is a clutch pedal that stays stuck to the floor, especially after making left hand turns. (The crank slides over and the flywheel slides away from the clutch, so the clutch won't engage...). If the play in the crank becomes bad enough, it breaks the crank angle sensor off the end of the crank, and the motor shuts down completely."

You'll know if you have it.

02-17-2003, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cashizslick
TSI talons are nice, but i hear they are real unreliable.

I'll buy that for a dollar!

02-17-2003, 07:32 PM

I had a 91 Eagle talon TSI. It was a pimp car, too bad the trany went out on it. They are awesome cars, but very unreliable

02-17-2003, 11:52 PM

My dad has a '91 Talon AWD Turbo....and I've been sharing it with'em since i totalled out my car and haven't found my new project yet. It has like 160K miles on it....and I was just tellin'em how it needs a everything....like you can just tell it's gettin very tired....like shifting gears how the turbo's kickin in and out.....how much do these engines run...I know absolutely nothin about this car.....besides I liked it....when it was healthy....now i'll be the occasional cock....thinkin...haha i got a little turbo here and this guy wants to race...and bam....there i go....and oops there he goes...just makes me think....we need to redo somethin with this dam car....oh yeah.....it's automatic lol

*pdiggitydogg* · 02-17-2003, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by HondaTypeJ
I'll buy that for a dollar!

LMAO! Dude I can see a huge fat guy in a bow tie and a turkey leg in one hand sayin that

02-16-2003, 09:49 PM	#1
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 40 Posts: 2,962	1991 Eagle Talon Turbo..should I?? Ok my friend is selling a 1991 Eagle Talon Turbo with AWD and he wants to get around 5000 CDN for it...do you think this would be a wise investment..what are your guys' inputs about Talons..i want this, a new car, or a h22

02-16-2003, 10:16 PM	#5
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 41 Posts: 9,662	i cant find it __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

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02-16-2003, 10:00 PM	#2
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 41 Posts: 3,821	h22 like i always say..come buddy keep it real with the accords

02-16-2003, 10:11 PM	#4
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 41 Posts: 3,821	can u post that vid?

02-16-2003, 10:17 PM	#6
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 41 Posts: 3,821

02-16-2003, 11:06 PM	#8
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	its the engine code, and it'll cost alot if you dont do it yourself.

02-16-2003, 11:10 PM	#10
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	actually that Gen talon/eclipse doesnt have a problem with crank walk. its the 2nd gen that got screwed.

02-16-2003, 11:12 PM	#11
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	A good DSM website: http://www.machv.com/

02-16-2003, 11:31 PM	#13
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	To answer the original question, yes you should. Assuming its in decent condition.

02-17-2003, 04:54 AM	#14
Djsteals Posts: n/a	I'm no DSM expert, but I read alot about them. I would say yes too if you can afford it. I know afew people around my city that run high 11's and low 12's with really not much cash into them. Just remember DSM's do have some issues. But if you take car of it and DO ALL routine maintenance you should be ok. From what I've read 1g's can crankwalk and dont even know it. "1g's use the cam angle sensor to sense cam angle, and cank angle. No crank angle sensor to die and let you know it has walked. So some 1gs may get it and never notice. The motor may die of natural cuases before it is properly diagnosed." So I would def check into that. Here is a great dsm site. http://www.racingknowledge.com

02-17-2003, 08:26 AM	#15
cashizslick Posts: n/a	TSI talons are nice, but i hear they are real unreliable.

02-17-2003, 10:00 AM	#18
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 44 Posts: 3,804	"The biggest indicator that you might have this problem is a clutch pedal that stays stuck to the floor, especially after making left hand turns. (The crank slides over and the flywheel slides away from the clutch, so the clutch won't engage...). If the play in the crank becomes bad enough, it breaks the crank angle sensor off the end of the crank, and the motor shuts down completely." You'll know if you have it.

02-17-2003, 07:32 PM	#20
Quevv Posts: n/a	I had a 91 Eagle talon TSI. It was a pimp car, too bad the trany went out on it. They are awesome cars, but very unreliable

02-17-2003, 11:52 PM	#21
zm_dawg Posts: n/a	My dad has a '91 Talon AWD Turbo....and I've been sharing it with'em since i totalled out my car and haven't found my new project yet. It has like 160K miles on it....and I was just tellin'em how it needs a everything....like you can just tell it's gettin very tired....like shifting gears how the turbo's kickin in and out.....how much do these engines run...I know absolutely nothin about this car.....besides I liked it....when it was healthy....now i'll be the occasional cock....thinkin...haha i got a little turbo here and this guy wants to race...and bam....there i go....and oops there he goes...just makes me think....we need to redo somethin with this dam car....oh yeah.....it's automatic lol