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				The best internet connection.
			 
			I didnt inclue T1 or T3 cause i could never get them. lol. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Actually, it depends where you're located and how far away from the "station" you are for DSL. 
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			i'm disapointed with my DSL...it pretty much sucks ass compaired to the local cable services...I've heard good things about sattelite DSL thogh... 
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		 I heard that satellite has to much delay to make it good for gaming...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 i love DSL 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 We just upgraded from years of 56k to cable a few months ago.  Man what a world of difference 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Optimum Online. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i only use DSL but i voted cable cause it really is the best. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	however in order for me to have cable i hafta sign up for digital cable as well... which starts at 48 a month plus 40 a month for cable internet. total 88 a month. whereas i use my $20 phone line with 39 a month dsl and get comparable speeds, pings, etc. total 59 a month. which would you choose ![]()  | 
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
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		 I love my cable.. Wouldnt have it any other way. Its the best 40$ a month you'll spend. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 it all sucks. big corporations charging outrageous prices in exchange for bad service, and limited capabilities. In a perfect world, I would chose cable. best hardline broadband a civilian can get. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I have DSL...its pretty ****in' fast as long as your computer isnt all messed up...but umm Cable is better... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 It is. It has a very high latency (ping). 
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		 I would agree that satilite internet is the suck, it has to reconnect to often. Overall i'd go with cable 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 im happy with my college network... but since thats not a choice.. DSL cause thats all ive used/been happy with besides this t1 or t3 or whatever they hooked me upto 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 no more dsl lovers here ? cable kind of sucks around here 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 it's the opposite here...my parents got a deal on our comp, that came with dsl...thats why we got it...pretty cheap... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 i love dsl. but cable offers faster speeds. which makes it the best. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 That's funny. Here, DSL would cost me $5 more per month than my cable, plus I'd have to get a phone line instead of just using my cell. Cable is much cheaper, and I save another $10/month when i buy digital cable with it. 
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		 my ping on cable is soooo high i dont know how to fix it.....i turned off my modem for a minute and plugged it back in.  my ping on games is like 140+ and i dunno blah damn AOL time warner 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 Do you have AOL Broadband or seperate service (ie - TimeWarner)? 
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 Check you speed http://dfw.speakeasy.net/ That's probably the most accurate test I've come across. Also do a tracert and see if you losing alot of packets at a certain point. Check out http://www.visualware.com/download/index.html . That should help you out. 
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 Use the Visual Route program I gave you the link to. Look in the packet loss column. That's the important part. 
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 That's too high. What IP is losing the packets? 
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			Report for www.hondastyle.com [209.213.77.182] Analysis: 'www.hondastyle.com' was found in 17 hops (TTL=237). It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) PHP/4.2.3). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 0 | | | Chris | ... | | | | America Online AOL-172BLK | | 1 | 10 | 10.73.160.1 | - | ... | | 110 | x- | (private use) | | 2 | | 24.26.192.113 | srp5-0.wacotxmhe-rtr2.hot.rr.com | - | | 134 | -x- | Road Runner ROAD-RUNNER-1 | | 3 | 10 | 24.93.33.123 | srp3-0.austtxrdc-rtr3.texas.rr.com | - | | 117 | x- | Road Runner ROAD-RUNNER-3-A | | 4 | | 66.185.146.109 | pop1-hou-P7-1.atdn.net | ?Reston VA 20191 | | 120 | x-- | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 5 | 10 | 66.185.146.96 | bb1-hou-P0-0.atdn.net | ?Reston VA 20191 | | 125 | -x- | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 6 | | 66.185.152.184 | bb1-atm-P7-0.atdn.net | ?Reston VA 20191 | | 157 | -x- | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 7 | 10 | 66.185.152.183 | bb1-cha-P6-0.atdn.net | ?Reston VA 20191 | | 141 | x- | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 8 | | 66.185.152.135 | bb2-cha-P1-0.atdn.net | ?Reston VA 20191 | | 233 | --x---- | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 9 | 10 | 66.185.152.50 | bb2-ash-P13-0.atdn.net | ?Reston VA 20191 | | 197 | -x-- | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 10 | | 66.185.139.211 | ?pop2-ash-P1-0.atdn.net | | | 171 | --x--- | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 11 | | 66.185.151.158 | ?NetAccess.atdn.net | | | 170 | -x | AOL Transit Data Network ATDN | | 12 | 10 | 207.99.39.158 | ?res1-avici1-g1-5-3-502.gnaps.net | | | 157 | -x-- | Net Access Corporation NAC-NETBLK01 | | 13 | | 199.232.42.109 | ?qcy1-avici1-cl-res1.gnaps.net | | | 188 | -x- | Cambridge Entrepreneurial Network CENT-CIDR-01 | | 14 | 20 | 199.232.42.114 | ?qcy1-ar1-g1-0.gnaps.net | | | 165 | -x- | Cambridge Entrepreneurial Network CENT-CIDR-01 | | 15 | 100 | | | | | | | | | 16 | | 209.213.71.46 | ?209-213-71-46.meganet.net | | | 247 | --x-- | Meganet Communications, TCIx, Inc. MEGANET-INFRA-IFADDR1 | | 17 | | 209.213.77.182 | www.hondastyle.com | | | 234 | -x-- | Meganet Communications MEGNBLK1 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roundtrip time to www.hondastyle.com, average = 234ms, min = 173ms, max = 308ms -- 31-Jan-03 9:07:15 PM 
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		 haha they probably wont with how TW works,.....and i have to get rid of cable in like 2 weeks anyways...no more anything for me =( 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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