K, decided between 2 options.

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

Well it looks like I'm going to be keeping this car. O.o

I've decided to do two things with my money, both involving an auto-manual swap.

For both categories, I will want/need the following-

Manual Gauge Cluster
Manual Pedal Assembly

Both can be found at a salvage yard, no biggie.

Anyways, here are my 2 options.....

1. Turbo the pea shooter d16y7, and do some massive engine work. To do a manual conversion, I will need to purchase a lot of parts, such as flywheel, clutch, shift linkage, tranny, ecu, etc....

Many of my friends are leaning towards this.. for some unknown reason. The only problem I would have.. would probably be time. Takes a lot of time to replace those parts...

2. H22a power. This thing is a beast, and is still turbo'able (try say that really fast.) All I would really need is shift linkage, cluster, pedal assembly, and little stuffs to make this work (mount)... Creates good power, and is still NA (at around 200 hp).

I think the second method would be better in the price/power ratio... don't you think?

I'm going to need some input. Most of the labor will be done by me or under the supervision of a mechanic at my local shop.

I intend this to be a summer project..

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

Did i mention, for the first option, It'd cost quite a lot of money and it will take quite a bit of time to assemble all those parts together.....

and if I do choose to turbo the d16y7, should I hand pick a turbo kit together (biggest one i can find ) and rebuild the engine for the higher boost levels I'd want to run?

you could go through ALL that trouble to turbo it adn still get beat by a car with a simple twin cam swap.. id stay away from an H22 i PERSONALY think its over kill... a gsr motor would be REALLY nice.... and still VERY turboable...

[ShagginJet]

Go b16, get it with a the manual tranny, turbo that at about 6-9 psi boost, and you'll have plenty of juice.... That's what I plan to do.

[drdingo21]

i wouldn't do a b16. Go with a b18 it has extra hp and torque and still handles turbo well. I would also stay away from the H22 unless your making it a drag car.. There is so much more work for the H22 over a b seriers engine...

don't bother to turbo you stock motor...

[pdiggitydogg]

im gonna say b16 just because its in most cases almost $1000 less than a b18 and is still very similar in hp. with that saved grand you could buy a turbo...or damn close to it anyway.

[drdingo21]

true, but the b18c starts with 180hp then if you turbo that a little down the road and run it 8 psi. then your up to roughly 260 hp.

where as if you get a b16a2 you get 160 hp then run that at 8 psi you get about 240 hp...

What im gonna do is get a b18c then run that for a bit till i can afford the turbo. But it would be cheaper for the b16....



Also pdiggitydogg you think i can cram those kick panels into a 5th gen civic?

[pdiggitydogg]

wait a sec lets be reasonable here...no one, and i mean no one needs a 260hp fwd civic...hell even 240 sounds nuts. i'd be happy just to see 160 on my civic

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

You're right. Trying to get a H22 to mount would be too much work.

Well, the dood selling the integra just e-mailed me again to ask if I was interested in his RHD JDM teggy R. I am soooooooo out of place right now. I want to see if its a possibility to finance this car some how.. but chances of that are slim and none.

So I'll probably end up with a b18c, and a large turbo. Who cares about spool time hehe. Any good places to purchase a reliable b18c?

[ebpda9]

H22A baby. raw power--oh wait it's going in a civic

[pdiggitydogg]

http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/engines/b18c_97.html all you need is the shift linkage and the axles from ebay

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

if your stuck on your choices..i would go with the H22...the power to weight ratio would be a killer street setup and i think its much more cost-effective than rebuilding the d16y7...

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

hoy, I've decided to sell it summertime

thread is olllld

[bent_remy]

Originally posted by drdingo21
true, but the b18c starts with 180hp then if you turbo that a little down the road and run it 8 psi. then your up to roughly 260 hp.

where as if you get a b16a2 you get 160 hp then run that at 8 psi you get about 240 hp...

What im gonna do is get a b18c then run that for a bit till i can afford the turbo. But it would be cheaper for the b16....



Also pdiggitydogg you think i can cram those kick panels into a 5th gen civic?

Think about it like this you'll be paying a grand more of 15 more horse power and pounds of torque if you get a b18 over a b16. I'll be damned if I pay $1000 for a measily 15 ponys. the b 16 is a better buy for the money and the peformance is not that far behind its 1.8L cousin. But if you are stuck in the first two options I would go with the h22. Civics with prelude motors tear up the street. what you heard about the weight difference if you can do it...............do it.

[TeriyakiBroccoli]

HOLLA

[bent_remy]

The previous statment is in regard to the engines before you turbo them. 160 for $2500 or 170 for $3500. Which makes more sence to you.

[silver]

a b18b is considerably cheaper, do a little lsvtec action, same output as a turboed b18c with less cash spent.