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GT40FIED · 02-17-2008, 01:26 PM

So it's almost time for a new PC...this one isn't terribly old (4 or 5 years) but upgrading it not really an option. So my question is how do dual/quad core processors stack up against old school single processors? Aside from the obvious advangtage of using two processors sandwiched together on a single circuit, how do they stack up as far as speed? I always see relatively low speed listings for dual processors...maybe something like 2.1GHz. But since there are 2 processors is that like 2.1GHz per processor or altogether?

Also, is it really worth getting a system that's factory overclocked? Yes, I know I could probably do it myself, but I prefer a computer that's not broken as would almost surely be the case if I did it myself.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-18-2008, 07:48 AM

ive got duel 1.6 ghz's in my laptop and it seems to run single programs a bit faster than my 2.5ghz, but alot faster when your doing 2 things at once. there very well could be other factors, so take it as is

as far as overclocking, ive always been one against it since i'd rather run my shit a little bit slower and have it run cooler thus safer.

also im sure you know, but get as much ram as possible.

GT40FIED · 02-18-2008, 09:55 AM

Oh yeah...I'm almost not considering anything with less than 4GB. Curiously, the other day I say a custom system with 16GB of RAM. Seemed odd to me because I was under the impression Windows couldn't use more than 8GB.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-19-2008, 06:55 AM

no clue to tell ya the truth

GT40FIED · 02-19-2008, 09:42 AM

Well...the more I think about it the 64 bit version of Windows can probably support more RAM. But I'm pretty sure the 32 bit system only supports 8GB.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-25-2008, 08:49 AM

sounds right. i know im limited by the space in my laptop for ram, but im pretty sure on a 64 bit you can get 16gb now that i think about it a little more. also, get vista and learn it. a few of my friends swear its terrible and use XP still when in all honesty i have 0 complaints with vista now that i understand how everything works and where it is. it took a bit but worth it now and i still find new cool shit daily that i didnt even know i could do. it may run some older 32 bit programs worse than xp but you dont wana get a new machine to run old programs your old box can.

Racing Rice · 02-26-2008, 08:29 AM

That is correct.. You need a fully compatible 64-bit system to run that much memory.

Actually 32-bit supports 4GB and 64-bit Windows XP OS supports 128GB of physical RAM.

Here are some other memory support stats:
64-bit vs. 32-bit architecture
Address space 64-bit Windows 32-bit Windows

Virtual Memory: 64 Bit - 16TB / 32 bit - 4GB
Paging file: 64 bit - 512 TB / 32 bit - 16 TB
Paged pool: 64 bit - 128 GB / 32 bit - 470 MB
Non-paged pool: 64 bit - 128 GB / 32 bit - 256 MB
System cache: 64 bit - 1 TB / 32 bit - 1 GB

So obviously, if you run memory intensive apps you will see the greatest benefit with a 64 bit system.

02-17-2008, 01:26 PM	#1
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	Enlighten me, geeks! So it's almost time for a new PC...this one isn't terribly old (4 or 5 years) but upgrading it not really an option. So my question is how do dual/quad core processors stack up against old school single processors? Aside from the obvious advangtage of using two processors sandwiched together on a single circuit, how do they stack up as far as speed? I always see relatively low speed listings for dual processors...maybe something like 2.1GHz. But since there are 2 processors is that like 2.1GHz per processor or altogether? Also, is it really worth getting a system that's factory overclocked? Yes, I know I could probably do it myself, but I prefer a computer that's not broken as would almost surely be the case if I did it myself. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

02-18-2008, 07:48 AM	#2
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	ive got duel 1.6 ghz's in my laptop and it seems to run single programs a bit faster than my 2.5ghz, but alot faster when your doing 2 things at once. there very well could be other factors, so take it as is as far as overclocking, ive always been one against it since i'd rather run my shit a little bit slower and have it run cooler thus safer. also im sure you know, but get as much ram as possible. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

02-18-2008, 09:55 AM	#3
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	Oh yeah...I'm almost not considering anything with less than 4GB. Curiously, the other day I say a custom system with 16GB of RAM. Seemed odd to me because I was under the impression Windows couldn't use more than 8GB. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

02-19-2008, 06:55 AM	#4
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	no clue to tell ya the truth __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

02-19-2008, 09:42 AM	#5
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	Well...the more I think about it the 64 bit version of Windows can probably support more RAM. But I'm pretty sure the 32 bit system only supports 8GB. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

02-25-2008, 08:49 AM	#6
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	sounds right. i know im limited by the space in my laptop for ram, but im pretty sure on a 64 bit you can get 16gb now that i think about it a little more. also, get vista and learn it. a few of my friends swear its terrible and use XP still when in all honesty i have 0 complaints with vista now that i understand how everything works and where it is. it took a bit but worth it now and i still find new cool shit daily that i didnt even know i could do. it may run some older 32 bit programs worse than xp but you dont wana get a new machine to run old programs your old box can. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

02-26-2008, 08:29 AM	#7
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 45 Posts: 7,985	That is correct.. You need a fully compatible 64-bit system to run that much memory. Actually 32-bit supports 4GB and 64-bit Windows XP OS supports 128GB of physical RAM. Here are some other memory support stats: 64-bit vs. 32-bit architecture Address space 64-bit Windows 32-bit Windows Virtual Memory: 64 Bit - 16TB / 32 bit - 4GB Paging file: 64 bit - 512 TB / 32 bit - 16 TB Paged pool: 64 bit - 128 GB / 32 bit - 470 MB Non-paged pool: 64 bit - 128 GB / 32 bit - 256 MB System cache: 64 bit - 1 TB / 32 bit - 1 GB So obviously, if you run memory intensive apps you will see the greatest benefit with a 64 bit system. __________________ Racing Rice

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