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11-23-2002, 01:48 PM

Downloaders of the world unite! The record companies will never stop you. That’s the conclusion of a study by no less an august body than Microsoft. The software giant has issued a research paper, which predicts attempts to stop the online trading of MP3 files over the Internet are doomed to failure.

The paper, prepared for a workshop on controlling rights in the digital age, forecasts future “Napsters” will be too widespread and too well organized to shut down. Add to that the growing speed of CD and DVD burners, the expansion of high speed Internet access and the falling prices for storage devices, and record companies won’t win this fight.

Not that they haven’t tried. But the Redmond researchers are critical of those attempts as well – pointing out the infamous case of an anti-copying program that was defeated by using felt magic markers, or coding that causes CDs to stop, infuriating paying customers. Their conclusions: the file swappers have already won the war. And the only way for the music industry to fight back is to reduce the price of their products. But with the music moguls already reeling from their losses, that may be a move they literally can’t afford to make.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 11-23-2002, 01:56 PM

i buy bands shirts, posters, and merch, along with some cd's(not many) i feel i support them more with a $15 shirt, than the $15 cd. puts the money more directly into the hands of the people i think deserve it. i was reading somewhere that fat mike from nofx said that the internet mp3 trading does keep money out of the hands of the record companies, but if a band started to make money, they are in the wrong business. that was the general message from what i read. i have a large amount of CDs though. i buy cd's when i have enough money

11-23-2002, 02:00 PM

only bought two cds this year... and i haven't found a cd that i like all the tracks on. I really like making my own cds rather then flipping through 5 or 6 tracks to find one i like.

ebpda9 · 11-23-2002, 02:23 PM

i bought like 4 cd's this year. i don't like music is on now. plus my music teacher told us that only like $0.50 from a $16-22 CD. i think that is shit if u ask me. all the money goes to the record company.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-23-2002, 02:30 PM

They are still trying to make it a pain in the ass for us. The newest generations of computer hardware will have Digital Rights Management built into them. This is supposed to somehow stop the ripping of CDs I think. It will never work 100% of course, but still....

ebpda9 · 11-23-2002, 02:42 PM

always we will have some "computer geeks" carcking on that, and while google exists we will find it

blind34_1 · 11-23-2002, 04:31 PM

The bad thing is that normal "non-savvy" users dont know how to properly rip cds and/or get around copy protection. The enemy is still ignorance.

BTW: for anyone that wants to burn any cd copy protected or not...use CloneCD...you can find this on p2p networks, and on websites.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-23-2002, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by blind34_1
The bad thing is that normal "non-savvy" users dont know how to properly rip cds and/or get around copy protection. The enemy is still ignorance.

BTW: for anyone that wants to burn any cd copy protected or not...use CloneCD...you can find this on p2p networks, and on websites.

Clone CD works very well

11-23-2002, 01:48 PM	#1
mt.biker Posts: n/a	Of all companies... this one knows! Downloaders of the world unite! The record companies will never stop you. That’s the conclusion of a study by no less an august body than Microsoft. The software giant has issued a research paper, which predicts attempts to stop the online trading of MP3 files over the Internet are doomed to failure. The paper, prepared for a workshop on controlling rights in the digital age, forecasts future “Napsters” will be too widespread and too well organized to shut down. Add to that the growing speed of CD and DVD burners, the expansion of high speed Internet access and the falling prices for storage devices, and record companies won’t win this fight. Not that they haven’t tried. But the Redmond researchers are critical of those attempts as well – pointing out the infamous case of an anti-copying program that was defeated by using felt magic markers, or coding that causes CDs to stop, infuriating paying customers. Their conclusions: the file swappers have already won the war. And the only way for the music industry to fight back is to reduce the price of their products. But with the music moguls already reeling from their losses, that may be a move they literally can’t afford to make.

11-23-2002, 01:56 PM	#2
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	i buy bands shirts, posters, and merch, along with some cd's(not many) i feel i support them more with a $15 shirt, than the $15 cd. puts the money more directly into the hands of the people i think deserve it. i was reading somewhere that fat mike from nofx said that the internet mp3 trading does keep money out of the hands of the record companies, but if a band started to make money, they are in the wrong business. that was the general message from what i read. i have a large amount of CDs though. i buy cd's when i have enough money __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

11-23-2002, 02:23 PM	#4
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i bought like 4 cd's this year. i don't like music is on now. plus my music teacher told us that only like $0.50 from a $16-22 CD. i think that is shit if u ask me. all the money goes to the record company. __________________

11-23-2002, 02:30 PM	#5
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	They are still trying to make it a pain in the ass for us. The newest generations of computer hardware will have Digital Rights Management built into them. This is supposed to somehow stop the ripping of CDs I think. It will never work 100% of course, but still.... __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

11-23-2002, 02:42 PM	#6
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	always we will have some "computer geeks" carcking on that, and while google exists we will find it __________________

11-23-2002, 02:00 PM	#3
mt.biker Posts: n/a	only bought two cds this year... and i haven't found a cd that i like all the tracks on. I really like making my own cds rather then flipping through 5 or 6 tracks to find one i like.

11-23-2002, 04:31 PM	#7
blind34_1 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Age: 40 Posts: 1,813	The bad thing is that normal "non-savvy" users dont know how to properly rip cds and/or get around copy protection. The enemy is still ignorance. BTW: for anyone that wants to burn any cd copy protected or not...use CloneCD...you can find this on p2p networks, and on websites.

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