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ebpda9 · 08-05-2002, 11:08 AM

i've read some place that the 4th gen lude v-tec did not come with an automatic transmission. is that true ? i was considering the swap, but i really don't feel like changing from auto to manual (i know how to drive stick but i drive a lot in stop and go traffic and i don't feel like changing gears). is that true ? i really don't want to go with a newer engine than 95 because of the obdii emissions and they are a pain to convert the engine to obdi.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-05-2002, 11:12 AM

well.... they do not come with a auto. but the h and f serise manuals are interchangable.. so i'd imagine if you can find a p13 auto ecu it would work with your current tranny. but i cannot stree enough that a h22 NEEDS a 5spd to be appriciated. the swap isnt that hard, its pretty srtait forward, my friend just did one in his CRX. i dont even think about shifting any more. i actaulay cannot drive auto, cause i feel im forgetting to shift and whatnot

ebpda9 · 08-05-2002, 11:30 AM

see the current tranny is blown. the car actually drives but it jerks really bad when changing gears, and only the passanger wheel has traction for some weird reason, so uisng this tranny is out of the question. i think i found a swap with an auto and it's 200 chaper than the manual. thanks for the help thou

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-05-2002, 11:59 AM

well, you CAN go with a auto.. but i dont reccomend it. trust me man, you'll much happyer in the long run.

ShEaNy · 08-05-2002, 04:14 PM

how much is that auto H22 i too like driving an auto..half the thinking..heh

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-05-2002, 08:42 PM

you guys dont see how nice the h22 really is unless you have a stick. and dont buy the SS tranny.. its a POS IMO and all the 5th gen owners who've got some sort of extra power in their car (i/h/e or even less)

ebpda9 · 08-06-2002, 12:41 AM

i was just wondering. and i really got to drive auto and manual ludes, and they don't seem too much of a difference to me. the manual is a bit faster, ican say that, but if i go manual all those changes inside the car( new cluster, new center console, clutch pedal, master cylinder--yeah this one is under the hood). i just don't think it's worth the pain for a daily driver.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-06-2002, 01:33 AM

well, clutch somes on the engine, the shift linkage can be picked up cheap, pedal all that... not too bad. i dont think you need a new master cylender. but if you REALLY wana stay auto... your killing at least .5-.7 off your 1/4 mile time.

ebpda9 · 08-06-2002, 02:29 AM

see i don't race at all. you can see that by looking at my kills in the racing forum. all i want is a bit more speed, than the messed up f22. yes it's going. i'm just trying to figure out a way to mate an auto to a OBDI h22.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-06-2002, 02:46 AM

actualy, check the ads section on hondaprelude.com i saw a jdm auto obd1 tranny ecu and everything for sale on there.

ebpda9 · 08-06-2002, 02:51 AM

thanks for the info

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-07-2002, 01:39 AM

did you find it? if not i'll look again and post the info up.

08-07-2002, 02:24 AM

haha, you silly Accord guys. Too lazy to shift.

ebpda9 · 08-07-2002, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4thGenlude
did you find it? if not i'll look again and post the info up.

the one from riptile ? yeah, too bad i don't have the money to buy it right now. for 700 hell yeah.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-07-2002, 12:01 PM

yeah, that was it

ebpda9 · 08-13-2002, 09:23 PM

do the 2 of the cars have the same axles ? cause i will need to fit them in the hub

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-13-2002, 10:26 PM

hrm good question. i think they are interchangable, but gimmi 15-20 mins, i'll find out.

ebpda9 · 08-13-2002, 10:40 PM

thank chris. i will do the swap in the spring thou

*ChrisCantSkate* · 08-13-2002, 10:43 PM

heh.. took 3 mins... anyways heres what i found:

Quote:

a h22a into a accord isnt as hard as u would think.

Your going to use Accord Axels, or custom prelude axels (but the prelude axels aren't worth the trouble). You need a prelude driver side mount, and I think that's the only mount that changes if I serve myself correctly. You need the ECU, the motor, all sensors and everything else that goes along with it. If you have vtec now, then you are good but if you don't then you need to have VTEC wired in.

ebpda9 · 08-13-2002, 10:50 PM

thanks. i've heard that the tranny mount needs to be relocated in the swap for the 5th gen accord, and for the 4th gen it will drop right in

08-05-2002, 11:08 AM	#1
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	question about the 4th gen lude i've read some place that the 4th gen lude v-tec did not come with an automatic transmission. is that true ? i was considering the swap, but i really don't feel like changing from auto to manual (i know how to drive stick but i drive a lot in stop and go traffic and i don't feel like changing gears). is that true ? i really don't want to go with a newer engine than 95 because of the obdii emissions and they are a pain to convert the engine to obdi. __________________

08-05-2002, 11:12 AM	#2
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	well.... they do not come with a auto. but the h and f serise manuals are interchangable.. so i'd imagine if you can find a p13 auto ecu it would work with your current tranny. but i cannot stree enough that a h22 NEEDS a 5spd to be appriciated. the swap isnt that hard, its pretty srtait forward, my friend just did one in his CRX. i dont even think about shifting any more. i actaulay cannot drive auto, cause i feel im forgetting to shift and whatnot __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-05-2002, 11:30 AM	#3
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	see the current tranny is blown. the car actually drives but it jerks really bad when changing gears, and only the passanger wheel has traction for some weird reason, so uisng this tranny is out of the question. i think i found a swap with an auto and it's 200 chaper than the manual. thanks for the help thou __________________

08-05-2002, 11:59 AM	#4
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	well, you CAN go with a auto.. but i dont reccomend it. trust me man, you'll much happyer in the long run. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-05-2002, 08:42 PM	#6
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	you guys dont see how nice the h22 really is unless you have a stick. and dont buy the SS tranny.. its a POS IMO and all the 5th gen owners who've got some sort of extra power in their car (i/h/e or even less) __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-05-2002, 04:14 PM	#5
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	how much is that auto H22 i too like driving an auto..half the thinking..heh

08-06-2002, 12:41 AM	#7
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i was just wondering. and i really got to drive auto and manual ludes, and they don't seem too much of a difference to me. the manual is a bit faster, ican say that, but if i go manual all those changes inside the car( new cluster, new center console, clutch pedal, master cylinder--yeah this one is under the hood). i just don't think it's worth the pain for a daily driver. __________________

08-06-2002, 01:33 AM	#8
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	well, clutch somes on the engine, the shift linkage can be picked up cheap, pedal all that... not too bad. i dont think you need a new master cylender. but if you REALLY wana stay auto... your killing at least .5-.7 off your 1/4 mile time. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-06-2002, 02:29 AM	#9
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	see i don't race at all. you can see that by looking at my kills in the racing forum. all i want is a bit more speed, than the messed up f22. yes it's going. i'm just trying to figure out a way to mate an auto to a OBDI h22. __________________

08-06-2002, 02:46 AM	#10
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	actualy, check the ads section on hondaprelude.com i saw a jdm auto obd1 tranny ecu and everything for sale on there. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-06-2002, 02:51 AM	#11
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	thanks for the info __________________

08-07-2002, 01:39 AM	#12
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	did you find it? if not i'll look again and post the info up. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-07-2002, 02:24 AM	#13
cantdrive55 Posts: n/a	haha, you silly Accord guys. Too lazy to shift.

08-07-2002, 12:01 PM	#15
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	yeah, that was it __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-13-2002, 09:23 PM	#16
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	do the 2 of the cars have the same axles ? cause i will need to fit them in the hub __________________

08-13-2002, 10:26 PM	#17
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	hrm good question. i think they are interchangable, but gimmi 15-20 mins, i'll find out. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

08-13-2002, 10:40 PM	#18
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	thank chris. i will do the swap in the spring thou __________________

08-13-2002, 10:50 PM	#20
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	thanks. i've heard that the tranny mount needs to be relocated in the swap for the 5th gen accord, and for the 4th gen it will drop right in __________________

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