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Old 09-29-2003, 12:59 PM   #1
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Is this stupid or what

We have a school around here called Rehobeth, and their mascot is the Rebels. Well, some black people got together and threatened to sue the school if they didn't change their name, becuase they "got offended". So now they're going to be the Rehobeth Blue Jays ... LOL. I can't believe the stupid things people pull - it's really funny. I mean come on, the school's name goes wayyy back. That's the most immature response I've ever heard of ...
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Old 09-29-2003, 01:19 PM   #2
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my middle school was voting on a new mascot back when i was just going in to it. the black panthers was the top choice, but it didnt make it because they thought it would offend or start some problems.... its a PC world and no one has the balls to offend anyone anymore.
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Old 09-29-2003, 01:37 PM   #3
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the school my mom teaches at used to be called the Larson Blue devils, but that wasnt very PC, so they became the Rebels...

schools are afraid of all the governmental PC garbage...
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soon all the teams are gonna be called the tigers... oh wait that offends african americans because there are tigers in africa and that must be discriminatory against them... maybe mascots should go away all together- but then again, isn't it kind of geographically discriminitory to label a team by it's location- that excludes people that aren't in that area... maybe we should just have lots of teams that go by the numbers... well that wouldn't be fair cause team20 would want to be team1... hmm, well competition altogether is bad so let's just do away with football... and capitalism while we're at it...
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anyone know what happened to that Indian...er...Native American lacross team that was called "The Fightin Whites"? I really wanted to get a tshirt from them
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uhh i hate that crap.. a black group twisted some arms until thay changed the flag.. cuz it had the confederate battle thing... ya know the rebel flag... and the thing that really pisses me off is BET.. do yall know what would happen if i started a channel called KET (kraker intertainment t.v) ? thay would go ape.... geez

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reminds me of the snapple bottle label of the people throwing boxes of tea off a ship (boston tea party). some people got together and said the boxes were slaves and it was a slave ship. they were forced to change their logo.
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I personally dont like the confederate flag, and what it stands for( and it DOES stand for something). But i'm not a redneck so maybe i just dont get it. I used to not really care but then I married a woman who is half black, half mexican and then i began to think a little more about it.
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uhh i hate that crap.. a black group twisted some arms until thay changed the flag.. cuz it had the confederate battle thing... ya know the rebel flag... and the thing that really pisses me off is BET.. do yall know what would happen if i started a channel called KET (kraker intertainment t.v) ? thay would go ape.... geez


I've been pitching that idea for years...WET...white entertainment television. But no..that's racist. BET is "ethnic". It's the same with a lot of things. If a black guys says he's proud to be black then he's got racial pride. If I say I''ve got white pride I'm automatically a racist. We've all been beaten down to where we're almost afraid to be white. Hell...I'm proud of my heritage...does that make me a racist? As for the school...the EXACT same thing happened at my middle school. Same team name and everything. It'd been that way for 30 years but the year we got a black principal they started trying to change the name. And pimpin...be careful...the phrase "they'd go ape" could be taken as a racial remark. Damnit I hate everyone's attitude in this country. Everybody's so thin skinned it's disgusting. In reality everyone feels the same way about everyone else but some people get preferencial treatment if your skin color is darker than beige on the color wheel. What ever happened to judging someone by their character and not their color? Blech.
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Old 10-01-2003, 10:28 PM   #10
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"And pimpin...be careful...the phrase "they'd go ape" could be taken as a racial remark" yes u got it!!!! uhh thank u!!!!! naww iam j/p.. yea its soo stuped.. i think whites are the most discrimnated* aginst people in the world...i went to a pretty bad school.. mosly blacks and hispanics.. and i was soo tired of being "hated on"... like people would be like "hey move cracker".. and nobody would even think twice about it... but u know that if would turn arond and drop the "N" bomb.. i would be hung in the streets... uhhhhhh! but i got transferd.. and grew a foot and 1/2.. so i dont have any problems.. but that doesnt make it ok for the everybody else... uhh i wanna be a white jesse jackson...
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I've been pitching that idea for years...WET...white entertainment television. But no..that's racist. BET is "ethnic". It's the same with a lot of things. If a black guys says he's proud to be black then he's got racial pride. If I say I''ve got white pride I'm automatically a racist. We've all been beaten down to where we're almost afraid to be white. Hell...I'm proud of my heritage...does that make me a racist? As for the school...the EXACT same thing happened at my middle school. Same team name and everything. It'd been that way for 30 years but the year we got a black principal they started trying to change the name. And pimpin...be careful...the phrase "they'd go ape" could be taken as a racial remark. Damnit I hate everyone's attitude in this country. Everybody's so thin skinned it's disgusting. In reality everyone feels the same way about everyone else but some people get preferencial treatment if your skin color is darker than beige on the color wheel. What ever happened to judging someone by their character and not their color? Blech.



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i agree completely...

like saying "that black dood" is bad..no wrong....when he;s the only person standing in a crowd of people thats not black it's the easiest way to point out something he;s doing or wearing or saying...know what i meen......

i feel like i cant say "black guy" without someone taking offence....hell i dont get mad when i get called white....since i'm peach...


people are just to sensitive it's pathetic...people in genreal not any specific race or ethnicity...

also...i understand why "nigger" is offensive yet."kracker isnt"....sorry it doesnt bother me....cousrei wasnt oppressed for hundred years....but know what even if i was WHO CARES.......shit everyone that comes to the USA is free.....so dont *****.......now the word "nigger" or "nigga" is offensive...then why do people of the african ameraicn ethnicity use it so much......i dont understand.....i never hear a mexican calling his buddy a wetback.....


then we get into "not ever african american is like that" and it's completely true.....the media makse a bad example of other races and such because white people in genreal are affraid of other races.....mainly black folks since white people did ENSLAVE THEM...anmd i think that years of media and other crap has made white people affraid of a revotl of sorts somewhow...

the thing about the poverty,gangsters and welfare sucking "niggers" is true though.....mainly because since black people got equal rights....whys that you ask?

because even though they got rights just like every white persong..people still treated them like absolute crap......hard to get jobs and keep them just because the fuk head behind the desk said "we dont want niggers working for us so we'll find a reason to fire them or just not hire them at all".....it's all plays back to history.....black people had a hard time starting out and some families never made it and were raised poor in places like the projects....

see where i'm going........

so the news only shows black people that had a hard life....not the ones that live a decent-great life.....

then younger kids seeing things like that on the news get things in there head about there own ethnicity....like "hey since i'm black then all white people hate me and i should be in a gang"

the media is to blame for everything.......they put things into people's heads that cause them to be stupid,narrow minded,idiots who will never beable to respect a person of a different skin color...........


and another thing......why is it that racist people can love a dog that isnt whit yet cant get past the skin color of another human? that dog didng choose it's color and neither do any of us.....

so i say take the racist mother fukers (white,black,asian,hispanic etc...) and burn all of there ass...along with the media.......then see what happens in 100 years when there is no media or idiots ot corrupt people........i bet people are treated equally no matter what there skin pigment may be
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For a very large percentage of it, black people enslaved black people, whites just bought them. Slavery is still alive in Africa (although has been illegal for a good number of years now) and was very active for a very long time before any white person ever set foot on the continent. That's a fact that is very conveniently ignored in the tension between the colors. Europeans didn't enslave Africans anymore than Africans enslaved Africans, but Europeans face the blame.

It's the same thing that we see now with Islam. It's evil for a white person to spill Muslim blood, however Muslims kill one another all the time because they're from different sects. Go figure.

See here's the general trend.....when people are similar there is a certain amount of crap that is considered tolerable, acceptable, or just flat out fine. However if somebody different steps in they are held to a much higher standard than the people in your "comfort zone" are held.

Examples are why blacks call each other "N" all the time but it's not ok for whites. I'm sure each and every person on here can think of at least 1 thing that it's ok for a friend or relative to say to them that would offend you if someone you didn't know and is obviously different or not part of your group said.

The problem that many people are just too stupid to understand is that crying out demanding something can do more harm to your cause than good. Personally I hate the NAACP and find them to be one of the most racist groups in the world with such company as the KKK. The biggest difference is their lack of a history of using force, but they use every scare tactic available in modern courtroom and media warfare. In my opinion they are only hurting the very cause they are trying to help. They are strangely reminiscent of PETA.....maybe a good idea, but overdone in such a bad way that every time they open their mouths its a bunch of ridiculous jibberish that makes me want to laugh....and cry.

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Another largely ignored fact....America was the first, FIRST country in the world to outlaw slavery.
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Here's my bottom line (although I likewise agree with sc0rch). People in this country have been brainwashed to be on the defensive and believe that everyone is after them. White people watch the news and fear that blacks or hispanics will kill or rob them. Blacks get turned down for a job and immediately it's a racial thing. In reality everyone's the same and it's all just a different mindset. Down the way from me is a group of guys from the Marshall Islands. Do I hate them because I think they'll steal my car or break into my house? No. I hate them because they constantly stare at me. My point is nobody judges anyone on merit anymore...it's all black or white. Recently there was an attempted movement for reparations for slavery. Ok...I'll give you money if you can prove that I enslaved YOU personally. If not, f@ck you for trying to make a buck off of your ancestors suffering. People always want things they haven't earned for reasons either real or percieved. Hell...we've STILL got reservations for native americans and you don't hear nearly the b!tching from them that you do from the black community. If there was a native american Jesse jackson you bet they'd have half the f@ckin country. Man...I shouldn't have said that...no I'm just gonna get pissed about how that dumbass motherf@cker has set black people back a good decade because of his hypocritical sanctimony. Just look on the bright side...in a few decades...maybe centuries it goes one of two ways. Either we all get so paranoid and sick of each other we'll destroy ourselves (that's my bet) or we all have what alcoholics refer to as a "moment of clarity" and realize that WE'RE ALL THE F@CKING SAME!!!!! Until then f*ck it all.
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uhh i hate that crap.. a black group twisted some arms until thay changed the flag.. cuz it had the confederate battle thing... ya know the rebel flag... and the thing that really pisses me off is BET.. do yall know what would happen if i started a channel called KET (kraker intertainment t.v) ? thay would go ape.... geez


Im not being racist, but Black People's culture isolates them from the rest of society - i mean, when black kids grow up, their role modles are gonna be succesfull black people - and the easiest way to see succesfull black people is to watch the Television (but the only ones are rappers and comedians) so, if you are growing up and that is all you see, you wont wanna be sucsesfull as a white collar worker cause you think its not for you.
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sometime in the future(hundreds of years or maybe a little more) everyone will be the same color any ways so it'll all end sooner or later.
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Im not being racist, but Black People's culture isolates them from the rest of society - i mean, when black kids grow up, their role modles are gonna be succesfull black people - and the easiest way to see succesfull black people is to watch the Television (but the only ones are rappers and comedians) so, if you are growing up and that is all you see, you wont wanna be sucsesfull as a white collar worker cause you think its not for you.


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uhh i hate that crap.. a black group twisted some arms until thay changed the flag.. cuz it had the confederate battle thing... ya know the rebel flag... and the thing that really pisses me off is BET.. do yall know what would happen if i started a channel called KET (kraker intertainment t.v) ? thay would go ape.... geez


You appear to know, but to those who don't, the Stars and Bars, aka. Confederate Battle Flag, aka Rebel Flag, is what was on the GA state flag. IT WAS NOT THE FLAG OF THE CONFEDERACY OR THE CONFEDERATE FLAG. There is a difference.....

However an interesting note in GA is that the Rebel Flag was not on the State Flag until the Civil Rights movement.....whether it was truly put on to escalate racial tensions, make a political statement, or anything else negative is pretty much up in the air....however I can certainly understand how it is perceived to be an anti-black movement by the government of the state regardless of its true intention (which, of course, may have been racist).

There are a lot of problems with black cultures around the US. In states such as GA there is a huge problem where black culture alienates them from the predominantly white society. There's nothing wrong with being taught to have pride in your culture and your heritage, however an attitude that is taught in many cities throughout the state is that you shouldn't play The Man's game. Don't accept handouts from The Man because he's just tryin to keep you down, going into the regular business world is just playin The Man's game, etc etc etc. It's utterly ridiculous, really, and is an alienating attitude toward things. There is a certain element of cultural pride in jive, ebonics, Black English, etc. and learning how to speak "proper English" is again considered playin The Man's game.....

Yeah I know it sounds pretty funny, but it's the basic truth. My father puts up with this shit every day in school where he teaches a variety of students from a variety of backgrounds, many of them low-income blacks. They value education the least of any of the groups in his classes, but it's not just the students, it's the parents. In their culture education isn't considered a good thing, it's more of The Man's games......

And I'm referring here to the GA black culture that I've been exposed to, I'm not saying all blacks in the US live by that same culture.....

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^ yea and it has a lot to do with the kind of ppl thay are arond.. i go to a mosly white school.. and the blacks are verry into school.. because everybody else is.. but the school i went to before.. hahahahaha yea thats just a joke.. the teachers coudent hardly teach because of the behavier problems... (i mean jeez look at my spelling)... i just dont understand what it is.. its like thay have to be loader than everybody else.. or more "showy".. like 26 inch rims.. uhh yea.. i dont get it....
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this crap is getting old. everyones different, stop trying to explain why and get over it
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the govt helped with the crap with the ghettos and white trash fukers too..

thanks to the govt we have welfare...look at cops..alot of those fools are shirtless,toothless rednecks..and alot are from the projects...what the govt did was say

"instead of actually working for what you have here is a place to live and here are some food stamps" and thats exactly why there is stupid worthless rednecks and thugs...

there mentality is "if you dont have to work for it then why should you"

no one wants to go to the projects or low income areas or the white trash trailer part of town...

and because those people are more prone to violence and stupid shit they will always be shown on TV doing something stupid.....therefor giving them a bad name
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Sorry Az....this has been a long time coming and I like hearing other people's thoughts. After all...the only way to learn about others is to TALK.

Sc0rch...you mean gentrification? Buying up ghetto land for super low prices to move the people out, level it, and build niceer houses? This especially effects the black community since it herds them into lower class housing and intensifies their numbers in a given community. Not that such a thing is bad, but it makes the will of said community stronger generally and if that will is anti-white then it's trouble.

I was discussing this thread with a friend over the weekend and he brought up an interesting point. Riots. I'll bet if you added up the damage caused by the Watts riots and the Rodney King riots and compared it to any protests that turned ugly that were largely white or hispanic, those two would dwarf all of the others put together. Not sure...but there seems to be a larger culture of violence there than in other groups. As of the census before this last one black represented 12.7% of the American population and contributed to roughly 61% of the crime. You be the judge.
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As of the census before this last one black represented 12.7% of the American population and contributed to roughly 61% of the crime. You be the judge.


That's because cops are racist and profile too much.

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Don't wanna hear it? Change the channel.....

There is always value in discussing and trying to understand things. It's ok to not care what or why, but what's the use in trying to silence others from discussing?

Hey, maybe if we all just ignore it then it'll go away???

Pimpin: I went to a predominantly white school in GA and the blacks cared the least about education. They were also the most outwardly racist assholes in the entire school, followed closely by the rednecks. There were some interesting fights.....

I was never exposed to racism until I moved to GA. Perhaps I just didn't even notice it if it was around me when I was a little younger, but upon setting foot in GA I was almost immediately exposed to it and noticed it......all I could think is what a sad world.

Unfortunately I believe people like to discriminate. I'm not sure whether it's truly human nature or just human habit because the two can be very difficult to differentiate between....but look at societies all around the world, there's always a way to discriminate. If it's not the color of your skin, it's your language, it's your accent, it's your clothes, it's your hairstyle, it's your teeth, it's your car, it's the way you walk, it's your body language, it's your manners, it's your sex, it's your sexual orientation, it's your religion.....there's always something that causes people to discriminate.

I think it's more likely to be human nature because we, as people, are social beings. However we are social with those who are similar to us, people we can identify with. Of course people who are most like us we can usually identify with the most.....and you need some way to discriminate (not in the racist/negative sense) between or among people, it's profiling. I think that's human nature and is to be expected.

The problem is where the discrimination becomes an outward expression to suppress, offend, annoy, harm, insult, or in any other way intentionally have a negative effect those who are different.

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A lot of good replies. I agree with most of you, especially sc0rch. Racism has been around forever, and will always be around. That's like trying to get rid of individuality or something. You'll always have this one asshole who dosen't have respect for anyone or anything. I just wish everyone could just chill out and take a step back and see what racism has done to this country over the years, and they'd all be like, wtf all we have done through racism is bring the country down - along with the people in it. We all know that'll never happen ...
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That's because cops are racist and profile too much.


That's certainly true to a point...but is racial profiling wrong when it's statistically upheld? If 99% of planes hijacked are done so by those of arabic decent is it wrong to assume that the next plane hijacked will be hijacked by an arab? Or if 75% of drive by shootings are done by black gang bangers is it wrong to look at them the next time a drive by is commited? I don't really think so. I know people want to believe that the playing field is level, but it isn't.

I think perspective is important. Like jjcivic said...we've done a lot of f@cked up things in the name of ethnocentricity in this country against those who are different. But look at the big picture. In many countries you can be killed simply for being from a different part of that same country. In Israel you're automatically the enemy if you live on the other side of an imaginary line. Yeah...we've been pretty messed up but compared to many other countries our hands are relatively clean. Hell...just 50 years ago Germans and Russians were killing jews for no reason other than they were jewish. Not to say that we should tolerate any sort of unfounded prejudice....but we need to look at it in contrast to the rest of the world.
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