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03-05-2003, 08:20 PM

if a car has more/less/around 10hp than the other car, does it make a big difference?
car A - 144
car B - 135

TeriyakiBroccoli · 03-05-2003, 08:22 PM

um. difference in what?

You talking about racing?

A lot of factors come into play such as driver skill, traction, etc.

Generally however, it should not be too much of a difference.

03-05-2003, 08:26 PM

okay, thanks.

TeriyakiBroccoli · 03-05-2003, 08:27 PM

you're not gonna race are ya?

silver · 03-05-2003, 08:51 PM

hp is not what you always base performance on. look at a dyno sheet to determine the peak hp and where it lies in the power curve and at what rpm, also the same with torque. a car with more hp can be slower than a car with less, theoretically. i can race a celica gts rated at 180hp and win (me at 175) because i have more torque where it counts. this is in a quarter mile of course.

TeriyakiBroccoli · 03-05-2003, 08:55 PM

I can pace with a GT auto celica rated at 140 hp with my 106 hp auto. W00t. .. he only starts to pull on me at around 40.

03-05-2003, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeriyakiBroccoli
you're not gonna race are ya?

did you read my thread about the saturn?

TeriyakiBroccoli · 03-05-2003, 11:24 PM

erm.. dont recall so.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 03-05-2003, 11:33 PM

It has a lot to do with hp/weight ratio. If his car weighs 2k lbs with almost the same hp, say goodbye.

03-05-2003, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeriyakiBroccoli
erm.. dont recall so.

http://www.hondastyle.com/forums/sho...threadid=13175

03-06-2003, 03:27 PM

A peak horspower number does not tell you anything about how much power the engine has across the entire RPM band. A car with a horspower curve that is really 'peaky' is not going to beat one with a lower peak horsepower number but that has a higher average amount of power (torque, actually) across the entire RPM band. That is, unless you are only driving the car in that 'peaky' RPM range.

Another important point is that a car with a higher rev limit can stay in a given gear longer than one with a lower rev limit. What this means is that you can stay in a lower gear longer and take advantage of the torque multiplication of a lower gear. So two cars with identical horspower numbers but different rev limits would favor the one with the higher rev limit.

You need to look at the entire picture to compare the performance of two engines/cars. There are of course other factors such as power to weight ratio and drag coefficient, etc.

Thanks,

Scott Tucker

03-06-2003, 08:13 PM

^^^ thanks man. good info.

03-07-2003, 12:31 PM

Any time

03-07-2003, 03:36 PM

dude ive never seen you on here before, then you bust out with all this info

Welcome to HS, any pics o the Si

03-07-2003, 04:24 PM

No pics of the Si yet, it's still stock. I've gotta sell one of my other cars so I can buy wheels and tires and suspension and during the summer I am going to start fabrication of a cold air intake and figure out what else I can mod.

96civicex · 03-30-2003, 10:56 PM

you can go to www.car-stats.com and look at some 0-60 and quarter mile times. they have a lot of cars on there so maybe it could give you an idea

03-30-2003, 11:18 PM

cool, thanks.

03-05-2003, 08:20 PM	#1
member Posts: n/a	horsepower? if a car has more/less/around 10hp than the other car, does it make a big difference? car A - 144 car B - 135

03-05-2003, 08:22 PM	#2
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	um. difference in what? You talking about racing? A lot of factors come into play such as driver skill, traction, etc. Generally however, it should not be too much of a difference. __________________ everyone loves the turbizzim.

03-05-2003, 08:27 PM	#4
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	you're not gonna race are ya? __________________ everyone loves the turbizzim.

03-05-2003, 08:51 PM	#5
silver Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: so cali again Age: 43 Posts: 820	hp is not what you always base performance on. look at a dyno sheet to determine the peak hp and where it lies in the power curve and at what rpm, also the same with torque. a car with more hp can be slower than a car with less, theoretically. i can race a celica gts rated at 180hp and win (me at 175) because i have more torque where it counts. this is in a quarter mile of course. __________________ Distributor of proven performance products from top manufacturers such as: Top Secret, Ings+1, J's Racing, Varis, Amuse, ASM, GP Sports, Air Walker, Garage Defend, Kakimoto, BuddyClub, Feel's, Fujitsubo, Porterfield, KG/MM, ORC, Spoon, Mugen, and more than 200 others. If it's in a Hyper Rev, it's in our reach. http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com

03-05-2003, 08:55 PM	#6
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	I can pace with a GT auto celica rated at 140 hp with my 106 hp auto. W00t. .. he only starts to pull on me at around 40. __________________ everyone loves the turbizzim.

03-05-2003, 11:24 PM	#8
TeriyakiBroccoli 5th Gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orange County, Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	erm.. dont recall so. __________________ everyone loves the turbizzim.

03-05-2003, 11:33 PM	#9
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	It has a lot to do with hp/weight ratio. If his car weighs 2k lbs with almost the same hp, say goodbye. __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

03-06-2003, 03:27 PM	#11
scottrtucker Posts: n/a	A peak horspower number does not tell you anything about how much power the engine has across the entire RPM band. A car with a horspower curve that is really 'peaky' is not going to beat one with a lower peak horsepower number but that has a higher average amount of power (torque, actually) across the entire RPM band. That is, unless you are only driving the car in that 'peaky' RPM range. Another important point is that a car with a higher rev limit can stay in a given gear longer than one with a lower rev limit. What this means is that you can stay in a lower gear longer and take advantage of the torque multiplication of a lower gear. So two cars with identical horspower numbers but different rev limits would favor the one with the higher rev limit. You need to look at the entire picture to compare the performance of two engines/cars. There are of course other factors such as power to weight ratio and drag coefficient, etc. Thanks, Scott Tucker

03-06-2003, 08:13 PM	#12
member Posts: n/a	^^^ thanks man. good info.

03-07-2003, 03:36 PM	#14
Shot 2 Hel Posts: n/a	dude ive never seen you on here before, then you bust out with all this info Welcome to HS, any pics o the Si

03-07-2003, 04:24 PM	#15
scottrtucker Posts: n/a	No pics of the Si yet, it's still stock. I've gotta sell one of my other cars so I can buy wheels and tires and suspension and during the summer I am going to start fabrication of a cold air intake and figure out what else I can mod.

03-30-2003, 10:56 PM	#16
96civicex 1st Gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 62	you can go to www.car-stats.com and look at some 0-60 and quarter mile times. they have a lot of cars on there so maybe it could give you an idea

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