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03-04-2004, 12:01 PM
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1995 Trans Am/Firebird
what do you guys think about these cars? I could probably get one of these inplace of a 300zx...only 25HP less at 275hp and it even looks like the Firebird would get better gas mileage...so what is ur guys opinion?
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03-04-2004, 12:09 PM
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If you get one, make sure it has the 6 speed.
 Seriously, I wouldnt mind having one with the WS6 package.
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03-04-2004, 12:26 PM
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yeah it'd be standard for sure
 what exactly does the WS6 package mean? |
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03-04-2004, 12:27 PM
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its faster
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03-04-2004, 12:36 PM
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get one and get a LT1. then put the LT1 in it. then i would take it.
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03-04-2004, 01:15 PM
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WS6 is a performance and handling package that was available for the Firebirds/TAs. A little faster with upgraded suspension. The newer ones came with the Ramair hoods.
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03-04-2004, 01:59 PM
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yeah, i know the WS6 is the higher end model but i just wasn't sure why..so thanks...and i can't buy a car AND an engine lol...i have to get the whole package..i don't have the time or money to put an engine in.
Do u guys know if the WS6 is avaible for a mid 90's firebird/ta? i DON"T want a camaro....so ugly |
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03-04-2004, 04:25 PM
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WS6!!!
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03-04-2004, 05:59 PM
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WS6 OWNS YOOOU....i'd kill ur damn neon |
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03-04-2004, 07:28 PM
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yes indeed u would my friend. indeed u would. i htink they run like a 13.5 stock? somewhere in that range.
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03-04-2004, 07:33 PM
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I doubt that any regular trans am would kill the SRT 4 tho! But once i get my turbo on the max i'll fawk both of them up hopefully.
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03-04-2004, 07:38 PM
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i've always wanted to say this....................... fer shizzle. |
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03-04-2004, 07:45 PM
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hahahahahha...fer shizzle my nizzle
i just found out that Trans Am have the V8 and the Firebird Formulas also do......but the regular Firebirds are V6 |
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03-04-2004, 07:56 PM
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If it were me, I'd take the LS1 over an LT1. LT1s are old school Corvette/Firebird/Camaro (not TOO old school...but the LS1s are just plain better). I'd rather have the newer motor. Honestly, I just don't like the looks of the things in general, but they can be made to be pretty damn fast. You will, however, be required to change your name to Gino and move to Teaneck, NJ.
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03-04-2004, 07:59 PM
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uhm ok
ok, what is the difference between an LT1 and LS1?? |
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03-04-2004, 08:43 PM
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To tell you the truth I'm not entirely sure myself. The LS1 has a build that's tighter than the LT1s. The LS1 is a 346 and I believe the LT1 is a true 350. I'm sure the guys over at CamaroZ28.com could tell you loads of stuff...I'm just not a Chevy man (and after owning my truck I never will be).
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03-04-2004, 08:49 PM
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i think i figured it out..LS1's are the newer engines...98+ and LT1's are the ones they used prior to that
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03-04-2004, 09:22 PM
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Right...but there are internal and design differences as well.
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03-04-2004, 09:42 PM
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LS1 is the next gen of the LT1. What exactly changed internally I am not sure. I do know that the LS1 produces a very under-rated 320-350hp (depending on what car it comes int), while the LT1 ranges from I believe 260-300.
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yeah, its that big |
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03-04-2004, 09:51 PM
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LT1 is apx. 275 hp
LS1 is apx. 300-325 due to differences and a 2 catalic system i do believe |
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03-04-2004, 10:13 PM
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the LT2 is faster the LT1 isnt it?
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03-04-2004, 10:17 PM
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LT2? Never heard of it...
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yeah, its that big |
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03-04-2004, 10:19 PM
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i've never herad of it either
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03-04-2004, 11:10 PM
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Yes, there is an LT2. They stuck it in the pre-'93 Camaros/Firebirds. I wouldn't put any money into one, let alone buy one. Now an LT4 would be different...that went into Vettes right before they changed over to the newer body styles. Hey...see if you can't track down an F-Body with an LG4 in it. You'll be the laughing stock of all your friends.
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03-05-2004, 02:25 AM
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yes differences in motors do change power output  |
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03-05-2004, 03:50 AM
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god iwish i oudl read that
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03-05-2004, 06:19 AM
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Now now Az...no need to be condescending. The boy just doesn't know what he's gotten himself into. Accord...the difference is a lot more than the vehicle's catalyst system. It's more about the motor build and it's state of tune. The Vette LS1s and LT1s were more powerful because...well...they were in Vettes. The Camaro/Firebird LT1s and LS1s are basically the same motor with different cams and specs. They make a little less power but are still somewhat respectable from a factory standpoint. You just need to read up on Chevy motors before buying a GMK product. Personally, owning a GM product, I have absolutely NO faith in what they produce. Plus the LT/LS series motors have the reverse cooling heads that have proven to be a major pain in the ass. Just buy a Mustang Cobra (which is virtually a wet dream in Canada as the GTs were badged as Cobras) and call it even. But then again I'm a bit biased. 
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03-05-2004, 10:39 AM
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I personally would opt for the Mustang as well.. Have you popped a hood on a TA/Firebird? Where are they hiding those sparkplugs?
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03-05-2004, 12:34 PM
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haha..i've never popped the hood
a mustang would be nice...but $$$$$$ |
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03-05-2004, 02:08 PM
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Ummm...that's a problem with EVERY GM car or truck. A father of one of my friends is a big Chevy guy and he used to joke that you could put a small block Chevy in the middle of your living room and you still wouldn't be able to get to all of the plugs. And Accord...trust me, Mustangs can be found for as much or less than an F-Body of the same year and insurance is about the same.
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03-05-2004, 02:14 PM
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plus the engine is halfway under the dashboard and they have a weird distributor 900 dollars to fix when it goes out( my dad had a 96 police interceptor)
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thats not bad, for a honda You say VTEC, I say V-8 |
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03-05-2004, 02:49 PM
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wow....i dunno, i'm just not interested in the looks of mid 90's mustangs at all. My buddy has a 94 V6 and another has a 96 and my buddy just bought an '02 (he's dumb and went V6 too
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03-05-2004, 03:03 PM
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Doesn't have to be an SN-95 ('94-'98). You could always go Fox Body ('79-'93)...they're pretty easy to find for fairly cheap. I bought mine with 36K original miles (that's aboot 70K kms to you canucks) for $6,000 US. But I got lucky. I've seen '84 GT350s with twice the mileage go for close to $10,000 in Hemmings. IMO, as Mustangs go the '82 GTs were the best. Not huge on performance, but still an amazingly mean looking car. Performance can be upped...but the looks don't need to be touched (aside from new wheels...man I hate stock '80s Mustang wheels).
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03-05-2004, 03:09 PM
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Personally the Fox bodies are my Fav., but to each his own. You can pick V8 fox bodies up dirtcheap, and performance parts are cake to find. They make awsome project cars.
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03-05-2004, 03:20 PM
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i can't really get a project car...i need to be able to drive it all the time
and i need a car at LEAST a 1995, i doi'nt want to go any older than that |
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03-05-2004, 03:23 PM
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Ahh, rwd sportcars are fun in the snow.
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thats not bad, for a honda You say VTEC, I say V-8 |
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03-06-2004, 04:17 AM
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Doesn't have to be a project car. All of the mods I've made have been done in an afternoon or at most a weekend. Car was always back together in time for work or school on Monday. This includes the turbo kit and engine swap and DFI system installation (not all at once, of course). I don't know why you'd marry yourself to the idea of a '95 or later...but later than '95 and your chaning over from the 5.0L to the 4.6L ('95 = 5.0L '96-after = 4.6L). To my knowledge the F-bodied GM cars had some pretty bad reliability issues...but that may be just because of what they are. People buy them, tear the shit out of them driving like idiots, then complain when something goes wrong. That's generally how sports cars get bad reps.
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03-06-2004, 04:40 AM
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uhm, if u drive the shit outta any car you'll have problems
and i'm stuck to 95 or later cuz i'm prettys ure my rents will want me to get something at least that new. that is already 10 years old!!! |
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03-06-2004, 04:49 AM
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Exactly...but a lot of people (most of whom are ignorant) don't know that. They buy a sports car and figure they can rape it and it'll be just fine. This may be true of...say...a Ferrari because it's built with insanely expensive parts that you pay insane amounts of money for. But the same logic does not apply to your run of the mill sports car. Beat it and it WILL break. I think this is why imports are always rated higher in reliability. Think about it...an Accord makes quite a bit less power than a Mustang GT. Now...if you're buying a Mustang GT it's for one of two reasons...because you like the looks/heritage or because it's fast...maybe both. It's not basic A - B transportation. The chief buyers of Accords, however, just want something to get them to work or wherever on time while doing the speed limit. Now...one of these demographics will flog their car and the other won't. When you flog it, stuff will usually go wrong unless you take preventative measures. This is why I question the F-bodies reliability stats. As for a car ten years old...hell, mine's 20 years old and the only problems I've had with it were ones I actually caused (the most major of which being a cracked block as a result of too much power). My '01 Sonoma has already given me more grief than my 20 year old Mustang. Newer is NOT better.
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