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11-29-2001, 12:28 AM

Are short shifters bad?

Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 07:27 AM

bwahahahahaha!!!!

You are to funny man...

Accord Man · 11-29-2001, 08:28 AM

LMAO

WHy?? Are you sporting a short shifter?

Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Accord Man
LMAO

WHy?? Are you sporting a short shifter?

Depending on the situation a short shifter is prefered over a stock length shifter.. This allows for tighter gear change patterns making things a little faster..

Accord Man · 11-29-2001, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racing Rice

Depending on the situation a short shifter is prefered over a stock length shifter.. This allows for tighter gear change patterns making things a little faster..

LOL

You dont need to justify having a short shifter.. It'S all good man!

:

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Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Accord Man

LOL

You dont need to justify having a short shifter.. It'S all good man!

::

Ok I wont then...

11-29-2001, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racing Rice

Depending on the situation a short shifter is prefered over a stock length shifter.. This allows for tighter gear change patterns making things a little faster..

So is faster--better?

Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OneDopeTeg

So is faster--better?

in some cases you could say it is...

11-29-2001, 09:10 AM

Currently I am sportin a slightly shorter than stock shifter

Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OneDopeTeg
Currently I am sportin a slightly shorter than stock shifter

I think mines about 30% shorter then stock, but I cant remember for sure..

I want to get one thats about 40%-50% though.. It makes it feel sportier when its shorter..

11-29-2001, 01:48 PM

It's not the size of the shifter that matters, it's how well it performs.

*KwikR6* · 11-29-2001, 02:17 PM

so if i don't have a short shifter, or stock, slightly bigger, but I always make sure that performance is the key factor with me. Is that ok?
hahahahaaahahahah
sorry!!!

11-29-2001, 04:30 PM

lmao.... eric your so funny! i cant believe you just posted this! Everyone is being on their best behavior.... *sniffle*... im so proud!

11-29-2001, 07:17 PM

I cut 3 inches off of my shift lever with a hacksaw. I must say, I'd do it again, given the chance. Throws are much tighter and smoother now

Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sozsei
I cut 3 inches off of my shift lever with a hacksaw. I must say, I'd do it again, given the chance. Throws are much tighter and smoother now

Try that with a true shorty.. You'll be amazed at how it feels..:

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11-29-2001, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racing Rice
Try that with a true shorty.. You'll be amazed at how it feels..::

True, but the only one on the market that actually improves things costs $300 for my car. I'm not that hung up on it..

Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sozsei

True, but the only one on the market that actually improves things costs $300 for my car. I'm not that hung up on it..

300 bones???!!! For what car??? The GTI?

11-29-2001, 07:47 PM

Yep. Rip-off, huh!

Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 07:52 PM

Thats crazy.. its almost hard to believe seems like a ton of money for a shortshifter... Whys it so much?

11-29-2001, 07:55 PM

Lemme look it up, I don't want to whore this thread but, pretty much everything for the VR6 is freakin' ridiculous like that, 2.0 short shift kits are waaaaaaaaay cheaper.

*KwikR6* · 11-29-2001, 08:03 PM

$300.00 for a shifter!!! that's wack yo

94_AcCoRd_EX · 11-29-2001, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dereks civic
$300.00 for a shifter!!! that's wack yo

C's short shifter costs that much...

11-29-2001, 08:16 PM

You have to buy the whole shebang for a VR6.

I was wrong. It's $499.95 for my car and $229.95 for MkIV VR6's.

http://www.neuspeed.com/order/item_detail.php?id=220

Moral of the story? Cut 3" off of the stock lever :

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Racing Rice · 11-29-2001, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sozsei
You have to buy the whole shebang for a VR6.

I was wrong. It's $499.95 for my car and $229.95 for MkIV VR6's.

http://www.neuspeed.com/order/item_detail.php?id=220

Moral of the story? Cut 3" off of the stock lever ::

Dang... Ill stick with honda.. Id cut it off too..

*KwikR6* · 11-29-2001, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sozsei

Moral of the story? Cut 3" off of the stock lever ::

I heard that cutting the shifter doesn't werk like an actual shorty does?
is that true?
I heard becuase of placement and where that ball sits.

11-29-2001, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sozsei
I cut 3 inches off of my shift lever with a hacksaw. I must say, I'd do it again, given the chance. Throws are much tighter and smoother now

OUCH.

Racing Rice · 11-30-2001, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dereks civic

I heard that cutting the shifter doesn't werk like an actual shorty does?
is that true?
I heard becuase of placement and where that ball sits.

Its kinda technical really,

An actual Short Shifter is longer below the pivot point which when shifting gears it will make it shorter going from one gear to the other. If you take it off the top it maybe be a little less of a throw but not near as effect. So instead of reducing your throw, 40% you may reduce it 20%.. Hope this made at least a little sense..

(Im not 100% sure about the figures, If anyone has actually experimented with this and has a more solid number, please post them)

*KwikR6* · 11-30-2001, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racing Rice

An actual Short Shifter is longer below the pivot point which when shifting gears it will make it shorter going from one gear to the other. If you take it off the top it maybe be a little less of a throw but not near as effect. So instead of reducing your throw, 40% you may reduce it 20%.. Hope this made at least a little sense..

it did make sense...because the shifter isn't actually that much shorter. Its where the ball sits. Kinda hard to explain....but you know what I mean.

Racing Rice · 11-30-2001, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dereks civic

it did make sense...because the shifter isn't actually that much shorter. Its where the ball sits. Kinda hard to explain....but you know what I mean.

Cool Its kinda hard to discride without being able to show you.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 11-30-2001, 12:13 PM

yeah i hacked 2 inches off mine, and have the adapter, so its pretty tight shifts, no one makes a true short shifter for me.

*Whtehnda93DXSdn* · 12-12-2001, 10:52 AM

I have a short shifter.......in my car and love it..the feel is good w/ my neuspeed bushings..

slowEJ6 · 12-14-2001, 12:54 PM

well see, when yer using a shorter throw shifter which is stock length, it feels much more solid and banging each gear is much more enjoyable for driver and passenger, especially when you throw on some more solid bushings, makes it more direct.

12-16-2001, 08:06 PM

i dont think the length of the shifter matters all that much, just the width and if you know how to use it to the fullest. just practice, practice and pracitce some more. you will get it eventually and when you hear your car make that nice moaning noise when you shift the gears, thats when you know you hit the spot. =)) good luck

12-16-2001, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racing Rice

Its kinda technical really,

An actual Short Shifter is longer below the pivot point which when shifting gears it will make it shorter going from one gear to the other. If you take it off the top it maybe be a little less of a throw but not near as effect. So instead of reducing your throw, 40% you may reduce it 20%.. Hope this made at least a little sense..

(Im not 100% sure about the figures, If anyone has actually experimented with this and has a more solid number, please post them)

my edge shorty is a 40%-60% decrease in throw. its awesome and only $185.00. Im afraid that japan is having some kind of manufacture problem with the shorties so they had to up the prices like hell. edge = american so woOt. I think the neuspeed one for my car was $385.00 and around that for every other jap / euro shifter. nopi told me exactly what hte problem was but i cant remember to the fullest. =/

01-03-2002, 12:48 AM

Short shifters look cute and all.. but theres no handle on them. You can never get a GOOD grip. Short shifters also get the fluids flowin' quicker than a longer shifter. But I think its not the size of the shifter.. its the horsies in the engine that get me moving!

Racing Rice · 01-03-2002, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
Short shifters look cute and all.. but theres no handle on them. You can never get a GOOD grip.

Thats not the shifters problem... The knobs all wrong..

01-03-2002, 07:37 PM

Seriously tho.. I have the long shifter in my Civic and I want to get a short shifter.. can I change it myself? Or is it something reserved for those who know 'everything' about cars?

slowEJ6 · 01-03-2002, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
Seriously tho.. I have the long shifter in my Civic and I want to get a short shifter.. can I change it myself? Or is it something reserved for those who know 'everything' about cars?

you can do it yourself, only takes about 30 minutes to switch out.

01-06-2002, 06:56 PM

If I decide to change my name to Loraina Bobbet (I was never in a spelling bee.. pardon my spelling) and just cut it off.. how much do you know to cut and then how to you get the shifter back on cause now you just got a stubby?

slowEJ6 · 01-06-2002, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
If I decide to change my name to Loraina Bobbet (I was never in a spelling bee.. pardon my spelling) and just cut it off.. how much do you know to cut and then how to you get the shifter back on cause now you just got a stubby?

i think you can safely cut like an inch off of it but since the stock shifter is threaded and you will be doing away with the threads, you'll need a shift knob that stays on with allen screws. or you could always J&B Weld the stock knob on the shifter

APC short shifters from pep boys: $40

11-29-2001, 12:28 AM	#1
OneDopeTeg Posts: n/a	Ladies....honestly....does shifter length matter? Are short shifters bad?

11-29-2001, 07:27 AM	#2
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 45 Posts: 7,985	bwahahahahaha!!!! You are to funny man... __________________ Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 08:28 AM	#3
Accord Man THE GENERAL Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Earth (usually) Age: 42 Posts: 5,698	LMAO WHy?? Are you sporting a short shifter? __________________ HondaStyle.com Babysitter's Club Member #0 Soon to be >Dr Max Immuh<

11-29-2001, 02:17 PM	#12
KwikR6 Mind Blowing Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cloud 69 Age: 44 Posts: 8,871	so if i don't have a short shifter, or stock, slightly bigger, but I always make sure that performance is the key factor with me. Is that ok? hahahahaaahahahah sorry!!! __________________ I JDM. I My Honda The epitome of stupidity is expressed so fluidly with the shity lyric theory you try to spit at me. I CAN'T WAIT FOR SUMMER!!!

11-29-2001, 07:52 PM	#19
Racing Rice Project Combat Honda Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Highland,OH Age: 45 Posts: 7,985	Thats crazy.. its almost hard to believe seems like a ton of money for a shortshifter... Whys it so much? __________________ Racing Rice

11-29-2001, 09:10 AM	#9
OneDopeTeg Posts: n/a	Currently I am sportin a slightly shorter than stock shifter

11-29-2001, 01:48 PM	#11
Lovebuzz13 Posts: n/a	It's not the size of the shifter that matters, it's how well it performs.

11-29-2001, 04:30 PM	#13
pReLuDe-gUrL Posts: n/a	lmao.... eric your so funny! i cant believe you just posted this! Everyone is being on their best behavior.... sniffle... im so proud!

11-29-2001, 07:17 PM	#14
Sozsei Posts: n/a	I cut 3 inches off of my shift lever with a hacksaw. I must say, I'd do it again, given the chance. Throws are much tighter and smoother now

11-29-2001, 07:55 PM	#20
Sozsei Posts: n/a	Lemme look it up, I don't want to whore this thread but, pretty much everything for the VR6 is freakin' ridiculous like that, 2.0 short shift kits are waaaaaaaaay cheaper.

11-29-2001, 08:03 PM	#21
KwikR6 Mind Blowing Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cloud 69 Age: 44 Posts: 8,871	$300.00 for a shifter!!! that's wack yo __________________ I JDM. I My Honda The epitome of stupidity is expressed so fluidly with the shity lyric theory you try to spit at me. I CAN'T WAIT FOR SUMMER!!!

11-29-2001, 08:16 PM	#23
Sozsei Posts: n/a	You have to buy the whole shebang for a VR6. I was wrong. It's $499.95 for my car and $229.95 for MkIV VR6's. http://www.neuspeed.com/order/item_detail.php?id=220 Moral of the story? Cut 3" off of the stock lever ::

11-30-2001, 12:13 PM	#30
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	yeah i hacked 2 inches off mine, and have the adapter, so its pretty tight shifts, no one makes a true short shifter for me. __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

12-12-2001, 10:52 AM	#31
Whtehnda93DXSdn It has 4 Doors... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fredericksburg,Va Age: 49 Posts: 907	I have a short shifter.......in my car and love it..the feel is good w/ my neuspeed bushings.. __________________ Another good forum site: Tuners Alliance

12-14-2001, 12:54 PM	#32
slowEJ6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Oviedo, FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,195	well see, when yer using a shorter throw shifter which is stock length, it feels much more solid and banging each gear is much more enjoyable for driver and passenger, especially when you throw on some more solid bushings, makes it more direct.

12-16-2001, 08:06 PM	#33
toykilla Posts: n/a	i dont think the length of the shifter matters all that much, just the width and if you know how to use it to the fullest. just practice, practice and pracitce some more. you will get it eventually and when you hear your car make that nice moaning noise when you shift the gears, thats when you know you hit the spot. =)) good luck

01-03-2002, 12:48 AM	#35
FeelMyRide Posts: n/a	Short shifters look cute and all.. but theres no handle on them. You can never get a GOOD grip. Short shifters also get the fluids flowin' quicker than a longer shifter. But I think its not the size of the shifter.. its the horsies in the engine that get me moving!

01-03-2002, 07:37 PM	#37
FeelMyRide Posts: n/a	Seriously tho.. I have the long shifter in my Civic and I want to get a short shifter.. can I change it myself? Or is it something reserved for those who know 'everything' about cars?

01-06-2002, 06:56 PM	#39
FeelMyRide Posts: n/a	If I decide to change my name to Loraina Bobbet (I was never in a spelling bee.. pardon my spelling) and just cut it off.. how much do you know to cut and then how to you get the shifter back on cause now you just got a stubby?

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