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ShEaNy · 09-05-2002, 01:01 AM

I prolly should put this in the suspension forum but meh its about my accord and im sure hondamaniac, comes here more often to look at posts..and u know ur shit ..heh..but i got my Ractive Coil Overs today...and my tie rods and sway bar brushing s are getting fixed..but i was wondering over the winter im going to save up and buy koni yellows..but is that all i need? would buying a chamber kit and maybe new control arms or SOMETHING
be a good idea to make sure the ride is nice...im prolly dropping it at least 2 inches..maybe more..and basically the coil overs replace my stock shocks right? or am i wrong...need some ideas please thanks..and ya this isnt all happening till next year but im making a list now...

94_AcCoRd_EX · 09-05-2002, 02:56 AM

Coilover sleeves (Ractive) replace your stock springs, and you keep your stock struts. True coilovers replace the stock spring and strut with a well matched combo. You don't need new control arms when you upgrade.

Yes, a 2" drop will most likely require a camber kit, but get an alignment done after lowering to be sure. A camber kit is only needed if the alignment cannot be done within spec using the stock adjustments.

For the Koni yellows, yeah, that's all you need. I believe there are two editions - those that will fit GC coilover sleeves, and those that don't (slightly skinnier). Check the specs of your Ractive coilovers to determine which you'll need (most likely the regular version).

ebpda9 · 09-05-2002, 09:17 AM

it looks like you got it all figured it out. as for the control arms ( the upper one) ingalls has a camber kit like that, that will replace the whole thing. it will adjust the camber from the upper balljoint. if u get the anchors the arms will hit the inner fender because of the small clearance.

ShEaNy · 09-05-2002, 02:38 PM

allright thanks for that info..

ShEaNy · 09-08-2002, 07:35 PM

wow some guy today i was talking to said that ractive wasnt a good brand...even if i do get konis with them he said the ride will be bumpy....hmmm

ebpda9 · 09-08-2002, 07:50 PM

i don't know about ractive. i heard the ground control are really good, and sometimes skunk2.

ShEaNy · 09-08-2002, 07:52 PM

meh im sure if i get konis and get it all properly installed..it will work out fine...

ShEaNy · 09-09-2002, 05:59 PM

hmmm also i forgot to ask when i do this.i want to upgrade the brakes..like silver and blue theme (calipers,lines, pads,rotors,etc) any good brands i should look into? for each of those?

09-09-2002, 11:05 PM

Yea you need to replace your struts because they will blow out lowering the car 2inchs if they are already arent blowen. Get so kybs or tokicos. I bought mine from thi company in california for pretty cheap.Check them out.

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Accord Man · 09-09-2002, 11:37 PM

umm, you bought ractive..

Nevermind that its a cheaper product.. the thing is that they are prone to rust fast.. faster than the other BS COs out there..

keep them well lubed and try to avoid driving in salty (as in salt) conditions.

ShEaNy · 09-10-2002, 02:49 PM

wow...i never knew that...damn...i'll use em but if they start to rust out ill just get better ones..and sell these..before there to bad..oh well...what GOOd brands of CO's are there for my car..?

94_AcCoRd_EX · 09-10-2002, 02:55 PM

Go with a true coilover such as Apex'i or Tein.

If you're stuck on getting sleeves, get GC's

09-10-2002, 02:55 PM

Skunk 2 are a good coil over.

09-10-2002, 05:55 PM

Hey i was wondering on those camber kits that come with the upper control arm, do they make them for 94 accord lx's and do you know if they come with a new balljoint? finally if any of you know of some prices and where to find them. thanx in advance.

ebpda9 · 09-10-2002, 06:29 PM

yup. i found some at www.groupbuycenter.com for 150.

ShEaNy · 09-11-2002, 12:52 AM

GC = ? Ground Control? LOL i have no idea... im going to stick with these ractives and go Koni;s....with a chamber kit...anyone know any good aftermarket brake parts for my car? Brembo?(sp?)AEM?

94_AcCoRd_EX · 09-11-2002, 01:00 AM

GC = Ground Control. Just seems weird to have really cheap sleeves and spend $550 on nice struts

Anyway, big brake kits like the AEM require you to have at least 17" wheels for clearance issues.

ShEaNy · 09-11-2002, 01:04 AM

ahhhh .... well wouldnt cheap CO's and Cheap struts be even worse? lol

ShEaNy · 09-11-2002, 01:07 AM

lol..arghhh now im thinking of trying to return these for something different...im going to ask the guy how long these CO's will last me....first

94_AcCoRd_EX · 09-11-2002, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sheany_91accord
lol..arghhh now im thinking of trying to return these for something different...im going to ask the guy how long these CO's will last me....first

Well, didn't mean to talk you out of it, but we're here to help you out. Have you looked into Apex'i WS? They run around $850 (you can find them cheaper though), and you have yourself a true coilover. You were going to spend close to that with your sleeve strut combo.

ShEaNy · 09-11-2002, 01:17 AM

hmmmm maybe ill look into that... i do appreciate the help...i just never know.. i mean i go to the counter i say i need a GOOD CO and hes like yup i got just the type for ur year..i ask what type how much etc..shoulda taken for time..my bad.. oh well thank god for refunds...well im off to bed..

94_AcCoRd_EX · 09-11-2002, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sheany_91accord
hmmmm maybe ill look into that... i do appreciate the help...i just never know.. i mean i go to the counter i say i need a GOOD CO and hes like yup i got just the type for ur year..i ask what type how much etc..shoulda taken for time..my bad.. oh well thank god for refunds...well im off to bed..

Yeah, I know what you're saying. That's why I know what I'm going to order before I go to a shop always. Oh well, live and learn.

ebpda9 · 09-11-2002, 11:30 AM

i don't know but for some reason i don't like the coilovers unless they are a true setup. i think matrix makes a 24point adjustable one. for over a grand better be good

ShEaNy · 09-13-2002, 06:56 PM

lol wow if only i had the cash...well the guy said in Summer conditions..in winnipeg..with koni yellows or even kyb's..the ride should be fine depending on how low i go..which is going to be 2 inches only to start..as long as i keep then clean...lubed and and some other little things..i think im going with these....

he said he can get me a deal on the struts and installation...so ya..im happy now...

09-05-2002, 01:01 AM	#1
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	Suspension upgrading I prolly should put this in the suspension forum but meh its about my accord and im sure hondamaniac, comes here more often to look at posts..and u know ur shit ..heh..but i got my Ractive Coil Overs today...and my tie rods and sway bar brushing s are getting fixed..but i was wondering over the winter im going to save up and buy koni yellows..but is that all i need? would buying a chamber kit and maybe new control arms or SOMETHING be a good idea to make sure the ride is nice...im prolly dropping it at least 2 inches..maybe more..and basically the coil overs replace my stock shocks right? or am i wrong...need some ideas please thanks..and ya this isnt all happening till next year but im making a list now...

09-05-2002, 02:56 AM	#2
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	Coilover sleeves (Ractive) replace your stock springs, and you keep your stock struts. True coilovers replace the stock spring and strut with a well matched combo. You don't need new control arms when you upgrade. Yes, a 2" drop will most likely require a camber kit, but get an alignment done after lowering to be sure. A camber kit is only needed if the alignment cannot be done within spec using the stock adjustments. For the Koni yellows, yeah, that's all you need. I believe there are two editions - those that will fit GC coilover sleeves, and those that don't (slightly skinnier). Check the specs of your Ractive coilovers to determine which you'll need (most likely the regular version). __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

09-05-2002, 09:17 AM	#3
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	it looks like you got it all figured it out. as for the control arms ( the upper one) ingalls has a camber kit like that, that will replace the whole thing. it will adjust the camber from the upper balljoint. if u get the anchors the arms will hit the inner fender because of the small clearance. __________________

09-08-2002, 07:50 PM	#6
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i don't know about ractive. i heard the ground control are really good, and sometimes skunk2. __________________

09-09-2002, 11:37 PM	#10
Accord Man THE GENERAL Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Earth (usually) Age: 42 Posts: 5,698	umm, you bought ractive.. Nevermind that its a cheaper product.. the thing is that they are prone to rust fast.. faster than the other BS COs out there.. keep them well lubed and try to avoid driving in salty (as in salt) conditions. __________________ HondaStyle.com Babysitter's Club Member #0 Soon to be >Dr Max Immuh<

09-05-2002, 02:38 PM	#4
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	allright thanks for that info..

09-08-2002, 07:35 PM	#5
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	wow some guy today i was talking to said that ractive wasnt a good brand...even if i do get konis with them he said the ride will be bumpy....hmmm

09-08-2002, 07:52 PM	#7
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	meh im sure if i get konis and get it all properly installed..it will work out fine...

09-09-2002, 05:59 PM	#8
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	hmmm also i forgot to ask when i do this.i want to upgrade the brakes..like silver and blue theme (calipers,lines, pads,rotors,etc) any good brands i should look into? for each of those?

09-09-2002, 11:05 PM	#9
mikeperrette Posts: n/a	Yea you need to replace your struts because they will blow out lowering the car 2inchs if they are already arent blowen. Get so kybs or tokicos. I bought mine from thi company in california for pretty cheap.Check them out. splittingimagez.com

09-10-2002, 02:49 PM	#11
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	wow...i never knew that...damn...i'll use em but if they start to rust out ill just get better ones..and sell these..before there to bad..oh well...what GOOd brands of CO's are there for my car..?

09-10-2002, 02:55 PM	#12
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	Go with a true coilover such as Apex'i or Tein. If you're stuck on getting sleeves, get GC's __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

09-10-2002, 05:55 PM	#14
bckwld94acc Posts: n/a	Hey i was wondering on those camber kits that come with the upper control arm, do they make them for 94 accord lx's and do you know if they come with a new balljoint? finally if any of you know of some prices and where to find them. thanx in advance.

09-10-2002, 06:29 PM	#15
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	yup. i found some at www.groupbuycenter.com for 150. __________________

09-11-2002, 12:52 AM	#16
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	GC = ? Ground Control? LOL i have no idea... im going to stick with these ractives and go Koni;s....with a chamber kit...anyone know any good aftermarket brake parts for my car? Brembo?(sp?)AEM?

09-11-2002, 01:00 AM	#17
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	GC = Ground Control. Just seems weird to have really cheap sleeves and spend $550 on nice struts Anyway, big brake kits like the AEM require you to have at least 17" wheels for clearance issues. __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

09-11-2002, 01:04 AM	#18
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	ahhhh .... well wouldnt cheap CO's and Cheap struts be even worse? lol

09-11-2002, 01:07 AM	#19
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	lol..arghhh now im thinking of trying to return these for something different...im going to ask the guy how long these CO's will last me....first

09-11-2002, 01:17 AM	#21
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	hmmmm maybe ill look into that... i do appreciate the help...i just never know.. i mean i go to the counter i say i need a GOOD CO and hes like yup i got just the type for ur year..i ask what type how much etc..shoulda taken for time..my bad.. oh well thank god for refunds...well im off to bed..

09-11-2002, 11:30 AM	#23
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i don't know but for some reason i don't like the coilovers unless they are a true setup. i think matrix makes a 24point adjustable one. for over a grand better be good __________________

09-13-2002, 06:56 PM	#24
ShEaNy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 40 Posts: 3,821	lol wow if only i had the cash...well the guy said in Summer conditions..in winnipeg..with koni yellows or even kyb's..the ride should be fine depending on how low i go..which is going to be 2 inches only to start..as long as i keep then clean...lubed and and some other little things..i think im going with these.... he said he can get me a deal on the struts and installation...so ya..im happy now...

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