Civic EX vs. Saturn

Originally posted by OPAKRACING

Hey, can you upgrade the STi's exhaust/intake/manifold/intercooler and some other stuff even more than it already is stock?

sure ...there is always aftermarket stuff and of course they're better than stock....

Hehe, alls i know is....i'm gun SLAM it! w00t!

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by SVT Cobra
wrx= 2.0 with turbo
sti = 2.5 with turbo

...only advantage sti really has is the displacement...

Not really...

First off, its 2.5-liter turbocharged engine is rated at 300 horsepower and 300 pound-feet of torque. It's connected to a six-speed manual transmission that sends the power through an all-wheel-drive system fortified with DCCD (Driver Control Center Differential). The DCCD system allows the driver to manually select the front-to-rear torque bias or merely set it in automatic mode and let the computer do the work. Further on down the line, the STi is upgraded with an electronically controlled limited-slip differential in front and a mechanically actuated limited slip in the rear. The car sits almost half an inch lower than the standard WRX and features aluminum control arms, inverted struts and a quicker steering ratio. The wheels are 17-by-7.5-inch BBS aluminum alloys wrapped in supersticky Z-rated 225/45R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE070 directional tires. The brake system was upgraded with four piston Brembo calipers in front and two piston versions in back along with an Electronic Brakeforce Distribution system and a Super Sport Antilock system that controls lock up on individual wheels according to lateral G-forces.

The interior of the STi gets a laundry list of changes as well. The seats are upgraded with heavier side-bolstering integrated headrests and unique blue Ecsaine fabric. Since weight is the enemy of speed, the STi banished the stereo system to the options sheet and swapped in lightweight rear window glass. The STi specific instrument cluster includes a 9,000-rpm tachometer, 160-mph speedometer and DCCD display to go along with the standard temp and fuel gauges. There's also a driver-selectable shift light so you'll never get so caught up in the power that you forget to grab the next gear.

From Edmunds.com


There are many changes to the STi.. If this is accurate..

[Racing Rice]

Here is about what the STi should look like in '04:

Wow, that was very helpful, thank you.

does it come in any other color? lol, like black maybe?

yes. def. left out the 6 speed and DCCD. but all the suspension changes and interior stuff can all be done to the WRX.
heres an example..... mustang GT... alright cobra.... better.
all depends on ur budget.. u wanna start with somethin better, u gotta hve the money. if u want somethin decent and eventually do some mods, the GT is the cheaper way to go.




i want the STi

[ford50forlife]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
V6 stangs suck dick....nuff said.

bone stock auto v6 that my mom drives vs. your ex? any questions? all youll see is that car barking the tires on the 1-2 upshift @ 50mph and youll have a newfound respect for the SLOWEst in the mustang corral

[ford50forlife]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
Haha, i think that this being my first car, i did pretty good.....talk to me when i'm 18 and i get my RSX. I plan it to be a Domestic/Ferrari eater. (Turbo, nitrous, and other mods will help me kick any domestics ass.)

another ghetto dreamer, usually i am open minded but your rsx will never touch single digits i can guarentee it..

[ford50forlife]

Originally posted by OPAKRACING


haha, you really DO know NOTHING about imports/cars.

(+150-200 with boost controler and turbo timer)

look at those 2 senteces then stop completly please this is ridiculous.

LOL this thread is HILARIOUS. 150-200 hp from a turbo RSX with boost control.
In your mod list you have a SPIRAL MAX. That is a tornado scam pos. You believe in that? Oh god I can go on all DAY. TITANIUM PARTS! Didn't know what a dyno was.

This is TERRIBLE. I have lost faith in America's youth. People like this drive on our roads and try to race us, people. What happened? Al Quada put something in the water about 16 years ago, I GUARANTEE it. We went wrong somewhere........but how? Where's homeland defense when you need it?

[sohc_vtec 2NR]

yah this thread is funny.... there was like massacre hate, then love... i guess there's always a happy endin' to a fairytale..

Do you have a spiral max? didn't think so. I have a spiral max, i know it works. kthnxbye.

i'm likin this thread

[ford50forlife]

spiral max owns u, non vtak style

I have one question for you WRX lovers, when is Suburu going to change the fact they look like hundai's from the rear

[ebpda9]

hmmm, good question, but ford and some more of the manufacturers are having this problem.

Originally posted by ford50forlife
spiral max owns u, non vtak style

spiral max

Ford? Havnt seen any looking like the son of a hundai

[ebpda9]

Originally posted by lucky
Ford? Havnt seen any looking like the son of a hundai

escort, ZX2

Must be nice to have a rich grandpa to buy you a car...how are you getting that 3.5? Taking PE and Cooking classes every semester? Have fun living at home while trying to build your "Ferrari killing RSX." I would much rather be out on my own, I don't depend on mommy or daddy to pay my bills. Maybe I don't have a $20k car, but what I got is nice, and I can mod it myself. I can't believe he didn't know what a ****ing DYNO is.

[ford50forlife]

hahah, escort zx2 is not even worthy of EVEN the terrible ford name, it should be a hyundai..

Damn!! No comment , well they are discontinued!!

yea, u can do lot of tunning to that car ....

Ok, i've made my mind up. Sti it is


I can make that thing aFerrari eater hehe


I don't know how much you love cars, but i'd rather live at home and have a kick ass car, then be on my own. Thats just me and my preferences. I do cars first

Yeah, then you can pick up a hot chick...and take her back to mommy's pad....and have you thought of how much insurance is going to be? An 18 year old with a 300 horsepower car? Ha ha! You'll have to pick up a part time job just to pay the insurance bill.

[armyguy5]

hahah no shit...20 years old with a 3400 dollar insurance a year (damn light poles) hey OPAK relax and read...theres' no way a turbo with a timer and all that crap is gonna boost 150-200 twin turbo MAYBE highly DOUBT it....Your 16 and your into modding cars? thats great....but we've got some years on you. Like posted before Spiral Max = GHAY......... I'm sick of today's youth not listening to their elders...and punks...why do i fight for this country? You get the STi to beat a ferrari give me a call cuz i'll laugh. I also have a 2001 Subaru RS and street racing ins't the world neither is the 1/4 mile and people who think it is have watched Fast and the Furious too much (YOU!!!).........Take it Rallying and race it there...better times...must be nice to have people to throw money into your wallet...some of us who make jack shit have been there and back and are just trying to stay out of the food stamp line....how about u take that money and make a show car? or turbo that motherfuc3r and do something that no one has thought of......Stop tellin people your civic will take a stang...cuz it wont..just like even else here has come to realize..Civic's are not the fastest in the world..and we all have learned that....but hey who else can do soooo many modifactions to their cars?? IMHO and as for you versus a saturn ...depedning on what year...taht civic has a 1.9 liter 4 cylider and is ALLLL plastic...only the hood and trunk lid is metal....its' a hell of a lot lighter

chris

Look, I'm not saying that you shouldn't do whatever the hell you want to your car, it's just that you have to be realistic, like armyguy said. You could probably make an Sti or even an RSX be faster than a Ferrari in the 1/4. Unfortunately, you'd have to pump $50k (or more) into the car, and then you wouldn't even be street legal. I didn't buy a Honda to have the fastest car on the road. I would be happy with mid 13s when I am done, but I will be doing it with full interior and badass A/V system too. And, when you turn 18, I doubt if you will still be thinking its better living with the 'rents than living on your own.

Or if you really wanna a Ferrari Eater buy a LS1

mid 13s stock you can pick up a 2002 Trans Am or Camaro for like 20K... now ... with 2000 bucks you can make it a low 11 sec car

Originally posted by Hoss
Or if you really wanna a Ferrari Eater buy a LS1

mid 13s stock you can pick up a 2002 Trans Am or Camaro for like 20K... now ... with 2000 bucks you can make it a low 11 sec car

that was gonna be my next car.... black 99 trans am ram air... for $15999. oooooo and i first thought you could make mustangs fast for cheap. i decided to be a little more practical and safer this time though.

Ok, heres the deal. I am not exactely living with my parents, i would ea with them for the sake of saving my money. But i am living under my grandpa's house in an apartment that he seldomm rents out. He said i could live there for free.

I know that spiral max works, i have one, and i notice the difference, i don't know what oyu guys wanna say to that.


*wispers* I'm not paying for the insurance either

The STi won't be a ferrari eeater stock, lol, i plan on spending time on this thing. I am thinking i will have it half way to 3/4 the wya modded the way i want by the time i'm 23-25. Cuz i gotta live (go to europe, movies) I will try to save as much money for it as i can tho. And yes, civics aren't very fast, but for a first car....i won't go there again

Oh yea, and that saturn i raced, i saw him again. It was a twin cam 2 litre one.

Thnx for alls da help guys. Apreciate it.

Originally posted by SVT Cobra
that was gonna be my next car.... black 99 trans am ram air... for $15999. oooooo and i first thought you could make mustangs fast for cheap. i decided to be a little more practical and safer this time though.

hey that's wat i'm planning to buy too for my next car a trans am ram air WS6 but i still gotta save up some money b4 i buy it so it's going to be a while....

Thank you for realizing that you aren't going to have a 9 second car just because Gramps is paying for it. You can do whatever the hell you want to your car, but when you come in here talking sheeit like you were, people are going to call you on it.

wtf, what kinda shit. Quote some.

And why do you fail to see other peoples shit talk and jsut mine?>


kthnx.

I think even tho me and SVT got in a fight earlier int eh post, we got through it and i learned somthing from him. We frens now

hehe.

And since i'm getting an Sti, i can make it whatever i want hoe.


9 sec if i want too. it'll take time, but i can do it.

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
This civic is my first car, i am 16....and bet i could take yur v6 stang....maybe not the impala.

lol! Sorry kid but no. Dont get me wrong but...no.

Originally posted by OPAKRACING
Yes, if i get a 3.5 or better, then my grandfather is going to buy me a car when i graduate....OMG! you are the stupidest idiot....durr, thats why you DON'T run it at 20 psi, lmao! You really want me to list ALL the things i am doing to the car, i have no idea what every single part is i'm going to buy. I am planning on brakes you fuk head...i'm not going to list all the parts i'm putting on it, but i listed some of the ones that would make a huge difference. Don't be a jealous fuk, cuz its really annoying....its ski week. What would you reccomend for a fast car....I am not looking for a domestic...I want an import, and i like the way the RSX looks, and it has good power for a 4 cylander. All you rely on to dis me is the twisting of what i said. so plz, as i stated before, go kill yurself.

ROFL! ***.

I meant the shit you were talking about your RSX being a "Ferrari eater" and "titanium parts" oh, and don't forget, "whats a dyno?"!! Also, don't forget "my civic could beat your V6 Mustang, probably not the Impala though." Sorry, dogg, it's nothing personal, and I respect that you have goals, it's just that they aren't that realistic. Please just tell me you aren't putting one of those 9 foot high wings on the back of your car.....

coulda been a sleeper....ya never know.