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CivicSlug · 08-21-2004, 03:43 PM

I have been hearing and seeing a big push about these grounding systems for your engine. I've seen charts of claimed hp/tq gains, but there all from the manufacture. Can anyone tell me if these things are worth getting?

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-21-2004, 04:01 PM

Not really worth it if you ask me.
If you really want them, make your own - trip to ho' depot and under $20 in parts.
Its just wire...nothing special.

(You can find the point diagrams on google and honda-tech by searching)

IALuder · 08-21-2004, 06:23 PM

nice ride.

there not worth it unless you got huge power under the hood.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 08-21-2004, 07:19 PM

I'm guessing the only reason you'd notice a difference is if your stock grounds are horribly out of shape, partially disconnected, or something like that... It won't hurt, but I wouldn't spend big $$$ on a grounding kit.

ebpda9 · 08-21-2004, 07:58 PM

i think that grounding kit is a load of crap if you ask me

JDMFantasy2k · 08-21-2004, 08:32 PM

i made my own. But i have seen gains on modified vehicles, however i don't think it's worth the $150+ price tag that most grounding kit manufactures want for it. Basically i went to wal-mart, got some connectors and one fat battery cable. Then i had some wire laying around the house that i used to make grounds. It's pretty self explanatory.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 08-21-2004, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDMFantasy2k
But i have seen gains on modified vehicles,

Seen gains on a dyno? Or did you just "feel" the difference?

JDMFantasy2k · 08-21-2004, 09:50 PM

hmm i believe i saw a dyno chart in a mag, i mean it was like 2 maybe 3 peak hp, on a boosted vehicle, and i think the kit they used on it costed like $200+, fcuk that. think it might have been in import tuner

94_AcCoRd_EX · 08-21-2004, 10:17 PM

Sounds like the gains are too small to be worth it on most cars then... I'm not spending $$$ to gain .01 hp

*AzCivic* · 08-22-2004, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDMFantasy2k
hmm i believe i saw a dyno chart in a mag, i mean it was like 2 maybe 3 peak hp, on a boosted vehicle, and i think the kit they used on it costed like $200+, fcuk that. think it might have been in import tuner

you can get differences greater than that by just letting the car sit there between runs and not changing anything.

CivicSlug · 08-22-2004, 11:22 AM

Thanks for the input everybody. My car is boosted (6psi.

from a JR supercharger). Supposed 2-3 peek hp ain't shit, not for the $. I'll take your advise and just do it myself.

Whats the prefered gauge wire?

08-28-2004, 06:34 AM

on DSM cars the grounding system is horribly and a grounding them with better grounds makes a big difference. Supposedly 7-10 WHP. Which is incredible to say the least for a bunch of ground wires. This grounding concept for Hondas has come from the DSM cars. I saw the same dyno, and yes I think it was import tuner that showed 2-3 WHP. So is it hype or truth? I think its hype personally. U know not to believe everything u read.

As far as what gauge to use... I used 4 gauge on all my custom ground wires.

08-21-2004, 06:23 PM	#3
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	nice ride. there not worth it unless you got huge power under the hood. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

08-21-2004, 07:19 PM	#4
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	I'm guessing the only reason you'd notice a difference is if your stock grounds are horribly out of shape, partially disconnected, or something like that... It won't hurt, but I wouldn't spend big $$$ on a grounding kit. __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

08-21-2004, 07:58 PM	#5
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	i think that grounding kit is a load of crap if you ask me __________________

08-21-2004, 08:32 PM	#6
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 37 Posts: 1,765	i made my own. But i have seen gains on modified vehicles, however i don't think it's worth the $150+ price tag that most grounding kit manufactures want for it. Basically i went to wal-mart, got some connectors and one fat battery cable. Then i had some wire laying around the house that i used to make grounds. It's pretty self explanatory. __________________

08-21-2004, 09:50 PM	#8
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 37 Posts: 1,765	hmm i believe i saw a dyno chart in a mag, i mean it was like 2 maybe 3 peak hp, on a boosted vehicle, and i think the kit they used on it costed like $200+, fcuk that. think it might have been in import tuner __________________

08-21-2004, 04:01 PM	#2
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	Not really worth it if you ask me. If you really want them, make your own - trip to ho' depot and under $20 in parts. Its just wire...nothing special. (You can find the point diagrams on google and honda-tech by searching)

08-21-2004, 10:17 PM	#9
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	Sounds like the gains are too small to be worth it on most cars then... I'm not spending $$$ to gain .01 hp __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

08-22-2004, 11:22 AM	#11
CivicSlug 1st Gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 47 Posts: 25	Thanks for the input everybody. My car is boosted (6psi. from a JR supercharger). Supposed 2-3 peek hp ain't shit, not for the $. I'll take your advise and just do it myself. Whats the prefered gauge wire?

08-28-2004, 06:34 AM	#12
Honda_Tengoku Posts: n/a	on DSM cars the grounding system is horribly and a grounding them with better grounds makes a big difference. Supposedly 7-10 WHP. Which is incredible to say the least for a bunch of ground wires. This grounding concept for Hondas has come from the DSM cars. I saw the same dyno, and yes I think it was import tuner that showed 2-3 WHP. So is it hype or truth? I think its hype personally. U know not to believe everything u read. As far as what gauge to use... I used 4 gauge on all my custom ground wires.

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