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Grip72 · 01-27-2004, 06:34 PM

In stainless steel, there are several elements present. Are these elements a mixture (each sill in elemental state, but mixed together) or do they exast as part of a compound (chemiccal bonded to one another), or both??

any idea?

*pdiggitydogg* · 01-27-2004, 06:37 PM

if its a metal grouping wouldnt it be an alloy rather than either of those?
I guess if you have to go with one or the other go w/ compound
(mixtures can be easily separated in physical ways)

Grip72 · 01-27-2004, 06:40 PM

yea but this mixture CAN be seperated...can't it?

and i have to explain it

pimpinprelude · 01-27-2004, 06:53 PM

its a mixture.. its has like 15 percent chromium.. and uhh.. other stuff... but each piece is different...

A mixture consists of two or more unlike substances that do not react chemically. Simple mixtures can be separated by mechanical means. Any combination of solid, liquid or gas can be a simple mixture. A mixture is different than a compound, where the substances react and combine chemically.

hope that helps

01-27-2004, 06:53 PM

now this is a good ?....

I'd have to ponder on that but I'm sure you don't have alot of time..

Grip72 · 01-27-2004, 06:58 PM

pimpinprelude.....that helps..so its NOT both then??

Grip72 · 01-27-2004, 06:59 PM

also..didn't the substance HAVE to react chemically to form a new substance which would be a property of a compound?

*pdiggitydogg* · 01-27-2004, 07:32 PM

Did research!

Chromium (and sometimes nickel too) is added to steel to make stainless steel

steel = iron and carbon
stainless steel = steel + chromium

A compound is any 2 or more elements combined.
Steel is a compound - so adding one anything else to it would make it a mixture....because its not a grouping of 2+ elements at that point...rather a combination of a compound and an element.

Stainless Steel = MIXTURE

Grip72 · 01-27-2004, 07:33 PM

thanks man..i pretty much copy and pasted pimpinpreludes answer

*pdiggitydogg* · 01-27-2004, 07:35 PM

oh...i did all that for nothing........
oh well

Grip72 · 01-28-2004, 01:30 AM

MAXed Out · 01-28-2004, 09:11 AM

I think pdiggs is right.

DsBlu01CivEX · 01-28-2004, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
oh...i did all that for nothing........
oh well

Don't look at it as you did it for nothing....you learned something new. It was well worth your time and energy

pimpinprelude · 01-28-2004, 04:39 PM

no its a mixture.....

YOU WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT PDIGGS??!

LOL

*pdiggitydogg* · 01-28-2004, 05:58 PM

Bring it son! lol
No, I said it was a mixture in my 2nd post.

MAXed Out · 01-28-2004, 06:06 PM

LOL cat fight just playing! I'm takin chem right now but i don't know shizzle!

DsBlu01CivEX · 01-28-2004, 06:22 PM

I got a D in Chem in high school....that was by far the worst grade I've ever received in my life. Never took it again either.

MAXed Out · 01-28-2004, 09:11 PM

It's a hard subject and my teacher is a idiot. For example we were talking about cars for some reason and he said that aftermarket turbo's are illegal for noise polution or w/e . After a 15 minute argument with him about it he finnaly changed the subject and never admited he was wrong.

01-27-2004, 06:34 PM	#1
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 41 Posts: 2,962	Quick chemistry question In stainless steel, there are several elements present. Are these elements a mixture (each sill in elemental state, but mixed together) or do they exast as part of a compound (chemiccal bonded to one another), or both?? any idea?

01-28-2004, 01:30 AM	#11
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 41 Posts: 2,962	haha

01-28-2004, 09:11 AM	#12
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01-28-2004, 06:06 PM	#16
MAXed Out 6th Gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Age: 39 Posts: 1,974	LOL cat fight just playing! I'm takin chem right now but i don't know shizzle! __________________ SHIFT_MyNuts Some people call it an obsession I just call it my maxima 1997 Maxima SE 5spd, Stillen Body Kit, Warpspeed Y & B pipes, Magnaflow Muffler, Koni Yellows & Tein S-tech springs, JVC Headunit, Directed 7" in dash screen,Stillen Intake, red/clear tail lights, AE mod, Paceseter STS, EL-Glow Gauges, Clutchmasters FX300 Clutch, rebuilt tranny, 19" Mille Miglia Evo 5's with Pirelli Pzero's(summer), 18" Hp D-10 hyper silver wrapped in Goodyear ultra HPR, SPW front strut bar, Helios 7000k HID, Motostorm UDP, Viper 5000Vx alarm, 2 12" PowerClass 124 subs, Kenwood 1200 Watt amp, DVD Changer

01-28-2004, 06:22 PM	#17
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01-27-2004, 06:37 PM	#2
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	if its a metal grouping wouldnt it be an alloy rather than either of those? I guess if you have to go with one or the other go w/ compound (mixtures can be easily separated in physical ways)

01-27-2004, 06:40 PM	#3
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 41 Posts: 2,962	yea but this mixture CAN be seperated...can't it? and i have to explain it

01-27-2004, 06:53 PM	#4
pimpinprelude Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta Age: 38 Posts: 1,325	its a mixture.. its has like 15 percent chromium.. and uhh.. other stuff... but each piece is different... A mixture consists of two or more unlike substances that do not react chemically. Simple mixtures can be separated by mechanical means. Any combination of solid, liquid or gas can be a simple mixture. A mixture is different than a compound, where the substances react and combine chemically. hope that helps

01-27-2004, 06:53 PM	#5
4drmadness Posts: n/a	now this is a good ?.... I'd have to ponder on that but I'm sure you don't have alot of time..

01-27-2004, 06:58 PM	#6
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 41 Posts: 2,962	pimpinprelude.....that helps..so its NOT both then??

01-27-2004, 06:59 PM	#7
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 41 Posts: 2,962	also..didn't the substance HAVE to react chemically to form a new substance which would be a property of a compound?

01-27-2004, 07:32 PM	#8
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	Did research! Chromium (and sometimes nickel too) is added to steel to make stainless steel steel = iron and carbon stainless steel = steel + chromium A compound is any 2 or more elements combined. Steel is a compound - so adding one anything else to it would make it a mixture....because its not a grouping of 2+ elements at that point...rather a combination of a compound and an element. Stainless Steel = MIXTURE

01-27-2004, 07:33 PM	#9
Grip72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Age: 41 Posts: 2,962	thanks man..i pretty much copy and pasted pimpinpreludes answer

01-27-2004, 07:35 PM	#10
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	oh...i did all that for nothing........ oh well

01-28-2004, 04:39 PM	#14
pimpinprelude Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta Age: 38 Posts: 1,325	no its a mixture..... YOU WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT PDIGGS??! LOL

01-28-2004, 05:58 PM	#15
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 42 Posts: 10,579	Bring it son! lol No, I said it was a mixture in my 2nd post.

01-28-2004, 09:11 PM	#18
MAXed Out 6th Gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Age: 39 Posts: 1,974	It's a hard subject and my teacher is a idiot. For example we were talking about cars for some reason and he said that aftermarket turbo's are illegal for noise polution or w/e . After a 15 minute argument with him about it he finnaly changed the subject and never admited he was wrong. __________________ SHIFT_MyNuts Some people call it an obsession I just call it my maxima 1997 Maxima SE 5spd, Stillen Body Kit, Warpspeed Y & B pipes, Magnaflow Muffler, Koni Yellows & Tein S-tech springs, JVC Headunit, Directed 7" in dash screen,Stillen Intake, red/clear tail lights, AE mod, Paceseter STS, EL-Glow Gauges, Clutchmasters FX300 Clutch, rebuilt tranny, 19" Mille Miglia Evo 5's with Pirelli Pzero's(summer), 18" Hp D-10 hyper silver wrapped in Goodyear ultra HPR, SPW front strut bar, Helios 7000k HID, Motostorm UDP, Viper 5000Vx alarm, 2 12" PowerClass 124 subs, Kenwood 1200 Watt amp, DVD Changer

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