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Old 05-20-2003, 06:58 PM   #1
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s2000 engine in civic?

is it possible?

DOHC v-tec 16v 4cylTransmission: HydraulicHP/Torque: 240hp@8300/153 lb-ft@7500Displacement: 1997ccCompression Ratio: 11.0:1Redline: 9000 rpm

i might be getting a better job..like $22 an hour better..plus assloads of overtime if i want it...my friend was bringing home $1300 a week....so i figure.....$6800 for that engine isnt too far of a shot.......plus......no one would have a CLUE what motor that was by looking at it.......i meen some would but most wouldnt....i'd just tell these fools around here it's my 03 SI swap....muhahaha...i could prolly find it cheeper somewhere else if i needed too.....but i was just looking around........if it will fit i'm gonna aim for it.......i also found
integra Type R B18c5 $4400 210hp

H22a - Prelude type-S 91 -01 $4k 220hp

B18c - OBD1 add $300.00 for OBD2 $3000.00 178hp
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:27 PM   #2
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Sounds crazy but hell thats what street racing all about
keep me posted.

scorch do you know where i can find a b16 vtec

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Old 05-20-2003, 08:44 PM   #3
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yeah let me find that site again i'll post it
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Old 05-20-2003, 08:46 PM   #4
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http://www.allbodykits.com/JDM_Engines.htm
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Old 05-20-2003, 09:50 PM   #5
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s2000=RWD
civic=fwd

Is it possible? yeah, but it'll cost a grip. Not worth it in my opinion.
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Old 05-20-2003, 09:54 PM   #6
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this crossed my mind a few months ago. it would be an interesting swap, but you gotta remember, s2000s are RWD, civics are FWD...how would you convert that? that was the biggest snag i found. i would love to have this as a project car, but theres so many more things you could do for the money. when i posted this, one reply said that it would just be easiest to take a civic body and retro-fit it to an s2000 frame and engine. sounds like a sweet project if ya got the time and cash...keep us posted if you attempt it
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Old 05-20-2003, 11:04 PM   #7
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maybe it's duyable if useing a tranny from a H series engine (f20 h22 destroked and some mods) but the rotation of the engine will prevent you from doing that unless you want 6 reverses and 1 forward. Plus using any other tranny that it's tranny will render the engine useless because of the powerband and the gear ratios
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Old 05-21-2003, 02:30 AM   #8
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not to mention the S2k block is about 3 inches longer then an H22A3 and the bell housing shares nothing in common with any other Honda tranmission.

also the only motor mounts are on the bottom of the engine and the bottom of the trans. great idea, just never gonna happen.

and at making $22/hr i'd just buy an S2k
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Old 05-21-2003, 11:06 AM   #9
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Summary: That would be cool, but not as cool as anything else you could do with what it'll cost you.
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Old 05-21-2003, 04:17 PM   #10
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i didnt know the s2000 was rwd...dont know anything about the car really......

how about the integra typeR or GSR......since the integra subframe will directly bolt inplace of mine....i could just buy the front clip...then with the extra $ i could go turbo
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Old 05-21-2003, 07:29 PM   #11
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the swap is possiable, it was in a super street magazine, like 2 or 3 months ago. and the civic was still fwd.
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Old 05-21-2003, 10:46 PM   #12
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yeah, but they've got hella funding. enough money and anythings possible.

Umm, on that site back there a ways..allbodykits.com...anyone actually use them before? some of those prices aint bad...
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Old 05-22-2003, 01:22 AM   #13
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yeah, doing that swap would definitely be too expensive for the expected gains, what with the mounting/RWD-FWD/transmission issues....maybe turbo a b18 or something
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:21 AM   #14
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no its not possible for YOU.
the motor spins in a completely different direction and it would probably cost you about $40k to actually have the swap fabricated to work and at that point your car wouldnt be street legal anymore and pointless.......and you wouldnt even be that fast afterwards either - better off getting an AE86 and doing the F20C swap.

anyway, how about you just keep searching the web and doing more research before you jump into a swap. its going to help you more than a B series motor will.
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Old 05-22-2003, 12:21 PM   #15
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well i did research it...thats how i know that the b18c or c5 would fit with ease....but my subframe was built to handle the hp of my engine....so i would try and get the whole front clip from either car since the integra subframe bolts directly inplace of mine and there is around 12 plugs or so and that meens less hassle with pulling the engine out and dropping another in.....just jack up the front end...drop the subframe motor and all then replace it withe the new one......2 days work max...i've talked to my friends dad who is in R&D at honda and knows about everything there is to know about hondas....but i just saw the s2000 engine and didnt know it was rwd....so as soon as i found that out i scraped that idea.....

why wouldnt a b18c5 be a good choice...other than there suposedly illegal to have in a street car
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Old 05-22-2003, 07:32 PM   #16
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They are not illegal. Why would it be a good choice? Have you done any research at all?

It's a 1.8 Liter Integra Type-R DOHC VTEC Engine
200hp@8000rpm/134ft.lbs.@7500rpm
11.1 Compression Ratio
Direct bolt-in for 92-01 Civic/94-01 Integra

The only reason you wouldn't want it is if you wanna run lots of boost.
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Old 05-22-2003, 08:41 PM   #17
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judging by what you are saying about just dropping the subframe.....you HAVENT researched anything.

a swap will take maybe a day if that.....its so easy to just pull/drop a motor - wth would you waste time with a front clip unless you were swapping an integra front end onto your car???

a B18C5 illegal?? thats the motor in a USDM Integra Type-R.
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Old 05-23-2003, 01:34 AM   #18
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Well yes i have done research....think about it.......the subframe for my car was built to handle the HP of my car........the subframe of the b18c5 or b18c subframe was built to handle the HP of those engines........now tell me that my subframe will handle the HP of 185-210 hp without severe stress.....the sub for my car IS weaker than that of the other 2 engines.....since it was specifically engineered to handle the HP of my engine......now why would i want to spend all the time to reinforce my subframe when i could just bot on the correct subframe to support the HP and torque of the more powerfull engine??...........do you think someone running a 350 325 HP car is gonna leave the subframe stock when they drop in a 454 425hp+? no cause its gonna twist under stress.......not that a 4banger is gonna be alot more strees it's just a safety precaution.......and for about $300 more it saves time and $
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Old 05-23-2003, 01:39 AM   #19
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oh i would eventually wanna go turbo...I just want an engine that i can get the most HP out of........thats all that matters......it may take years but i wanna push as much poosible HP that the engine allows
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Old 05-24-2003, 12:44 AM   #20
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you still dont need to do this subframe swap because if you go turbo you are still going to have to do mods to support power of a turbo.
people have been using their stock civic subframes A-OK for years no w/ high horsepower swaps......but i guess if you enjoy doing more work than necessary and tossing money into the fire - its a good thing to do.
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Old 05-24-2003, 02:55 AM   #21
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ummm, the beams for both cars are damn near identical, the beams have NOTHING to do with how much power the car can handle. the axles/hubs/knuckles however do.
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Old 05-25-2003, 01:36 AM   #22
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^ amen to that.
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Old 05-25-2003, 11:12 PM   #23
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ive seen it b4 sumwhere but i 4 got (btw its pointless 4 that u could do ne other type of engine swap and get better performance)
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Old 06-03-2003, 09:42 PM   #24
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go type r b18c i know someone that just put one in his 90 teg and the first time i rode in it when it wasnt at its full potential i needed to stop home and get a change of pants
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Old 06-05-2003, 01:20 AM   #25
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saying that your car is designed to only handle your motor would mean that the price of your car would be astronomical. every car is mass produced so that the frame can handle several different motors of varying power. it'd be like saying that the chasis of a twin turbo supra is different from a n/a supra. it'd be too expensive to build the cars with different frames if that were true.

if you wanna turbo then go with the gsr motor, if you n/a then go with the c5
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Old 06-05-2003, 01:56 AM   #26
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this swap is obviously feasible. I mean, you can cut away the front radiator support, make custom mounts, and run your driveline through the cabin of the car..... then cut some more holes in your interior to fit the gearbox

heh im just rambling. no idea how everything would line up.. but from the looks of it.. not a good idea.
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