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Old 11-14-2001, 05:15 AM   #1
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Gsr? Si???

I know ppl has been asking these questions for tons of times.. but coz it's quiet here.. i will still ask ! hehe...
with 5.5 psi greddy turbo kit, BOV, nothing else, maybe intercooler
my car is a 93 civic vtec
would i be able to beat some 99 si or GSR?? what would i beat??
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Old 11-14-2001, 10:56 AM   #2
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There are alot of variables that will factor in, but in a word, yes you *should* be able to beat Si's and GS-R's. Si's I really don't waste much time on anymore, GS-R's make for a better race.. well not really, but I'd like to think so I've gotta find an ITR to try on for size
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Old 11-14-2001, 03:33 PM   #3
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assuming all other factors are equal.. skills and everything else...

or i should say.. WHP... will i have a higher WHP than those gsr and si??
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Old 11-14-2001, 04:41 PM   #4
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On 5.5psi, an otherwise stock EX should see about 140whp. Intercooled and with a larger exahust, DP and/or TP you can see over 155-160whp easy at just 5.5psi. For comparison, the B16A2 puts out about 134whp, the B18C1 about 145whp.
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Old 11-15-2001, 12:54 PM   #5
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On 5.5psi, an otherwise stock EX should see about 140whp. Intercooled and with a larger exahust, DP and/or TP you can see over 155-160whp easy at just 5.5psi. For comparison, the B16A2 puts out about 134whp, the B18C1 about 145whp.

dont forget that you should also have considerably more amount of torque also..
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Old 11-15-2001, 05:26 PM   #6
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also would i be able to beat some accords?? delsol?? v6??
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Old 11-15-2001, 08:11 PM   #7
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what's DP / TP u were talking about???
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Old 11-16-2001, 06:40 AM   #8
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There are alot of variables that will factor in, but in a word, yes you *should* be able to beat Si's and GS-R's. Si's I really don't waste much time on anymore, GS-R's make for a better race.. well not really, but I'd like to think so I've gotta find an ITR to try on for size

Well if you are ever out in my neighborhood I'll change your mind about wasting time with Si's.
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Old 11-16-2001, 06:43 AM   #9
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I have beat Hybrid B18 hatchbacks, Type R's, GSR'S none of these were turbo ofcourse but they asked for it. PEACE!
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Old 11-16-2001, 09:18 AM   #10
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of course you got a turbo ! hehe.. nice car

how much boost are u running???
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Old 11-16-2001, 11:01 PM   #11
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The max 6lbs.
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Old 11-17-2001, 03:21 AM   #12
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If you couldnt beat down the every day non-turbo gsr's and si's id send the thing back and get one that works. =)
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Old 11-19-2001, 09:07 AM   #13
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If you couldnt beat down the every day non-turbo gsr's and si's id send the thing back and get one that works. =)

hmm this coming from someone that bought a GS.. j/p
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Old 11-19-2001, 10:42 AM   #14
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Well if you are ever out in my neighborhood I'll change your mind about wasting time with Si's.

Have you hit the track yet? I plan on hitting it soon, maybe this weekend, I'll let you know how it does..
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Old 11-20-2001, 05:33 AM   #15
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Re: Gsr? Si???

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Originally posted by xbird
I know ppl has been asking these questions for tons of times.. but coz it's quiet here.. i will still ask ! hehe...
with 5.5 psi greddy turbo kit, BOV, nothing else, maybe intercooler
my car is a 93 civic vtec
would i be able to beat some 99 si or GSR?? what would i beat??


I SMOKE GSR'S and SI'S. NO let me rephrase that. I OWN GSR'S and SI's. heheehehehhee In GReddy I tRUSt.
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Old 11-20-2001, 11:57 AM   #16
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hey, except those mods u have in ur sig, anyting else?? intercooler?? ignition ?? fuel regulator??
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Old 11-20-2001, 11:58 AM   #17
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by the way, how big are ur rims?? 16"?? 15"??
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Old 11-22-2001, 03:10 PM   #18
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i was asking you mrclowny
it would be great if you can answer my questions..
cozmy car is exactly like urs.. white and 93 !
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Old 11-23-2001, 09:10 PM   #19
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Hey whats UP. XBiRd. My car is totally stock except for the things i have listed on my sig. HOwever, i boost 7 lbs instead of 5.5lbs. I didn't adjust anything but after i got my exhaust and tood my cat off my boost gauge reads half bar which is 7lbs. I raced my friends SI and Gsr and i smoked em. I usually take em out in third gear. My rims are 16's. ANd right now my head gasket is blown and my clutch is slippin liKe its on iCe. But i still can beat em. if you have any other questions just let me know. Peace.....
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Old 11-24-2001, 02:22 AM   #20
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nice.. holy sh*t, you don't even have an intercooler and u r running 7 psi !!!??? that's nice !
i am going to use neuspeed sport springs, and i was afraid it won't look COOL enough, but now it's LOW enough !! yahooo ! i am running 16" rims too in summer ! u using 205/45/16 tires, right? stock shocks??
anyways, i got everything ready to install my turbo, just waiting for the parts to come.... early december !! :(
i got boost gauge, a/f ratio gauge installing it tomorrow... and everything else is set....
turbo kit, greddy evo exhaust, neuspeed springs, dc sports shortshifter, tokico shocks, turbo timer, i thikn tat's all i have
any suggestions on what next mod i should get?? coz i want to push up to 6 or 7 psi.... intercooler?? clutch?? after these stuff, i want to push up to 8 or 9 psi... anything suggestions on what to upgrade?? let me know

I LOVE HOW YOUR CAR LOOKS !!! MY CAR'S BODY IS ALL FREAKING SCRATCHED !! FRONT BUMPER AND REAR BUMPER ! STUPID CANADIANS JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE !!! BUT IT'S GOOD, COZ NOBODY WILL STEAL MY CAR COZ IT LOOKS UGLY !! HEHEHEHE
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Old 11-25-2001, 07:04 AM   #21
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i definitely recommend getting a new clutch.
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Old 11-26-2001, 11:16 PM   #22
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what's DP / TP u were talking about???
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dp is the down pipe

tp i think he was talking bout the throttle bodie but im unsure
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Old 11-27-2001, 02:06 PM   #23
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DP= Downpipe
TP= Testpipe

Upgrade to a larger DP (2.5")
Remove the stock cat and replace with a TP (2.5")
Add a mandrel bent 3" catback witha non-restriced muffler

You'll now see gains of 15whp++ depending on what you're boosting.
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Old 11-27-2001, 05:26 PM   #24
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I got 138.1 whp with my kit.

All I had done was the Greddy turbo at 5.5 psi, DC Sports catback exhaust, and regapped stock spark plugs.

I have beaten Si's at the track that had intake headers and exhaust.

But now I can boost 8 psi, intercooled and with a new clutch. I will let you guys know when I go to the track again.
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Old 11-28-2001, 11:32 AM   #25
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I'm hitting the track this Friday as well.. I'll let you all know what comes of it. I'm going there to run on .65bar, open exahust.. low 14's I hope
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Old 11-28-2001, 03:39 PM   #26
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wait, I think that I can do the math:

1 bar = 14.7 psi so...
.68 bar = ?

it's a simple proportion soo

1 x ? = 14.7 x .68

divide over the 1 and:

? = 9.996

your pushing 10 pounds!! you should easily hit low 14's if not 13's. I ran 15.2 with 5.5 psi non-intercooled. What do you have done internally and what do you have for engine management?

thanks, and good luck,

aj
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Old 11-29-2001, 10:47 AM   #27
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Bone stock I already ran a 15.5 on 3psi, so I'm being conservative when I say i'm looking for low 14's (in reality, I'd like to see a 13.8-13.9) that way it'll be easier on me if I don't get what I want..
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Old 11-29-2001, 06:14 PM   #28
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Bone stock I already ran a 15.5 on 3psi, so I'm being conservative when I say i'm looking for low 14's (in reality, I'd like to see a 13.8-13.9) that way it'll be easier on me if I don't get what I want..

Hey VTC_CiVic how much lbs are you planning to boost to get 13.8-13.9????? I think we have a similar setup. It would be great if i can go that fast. I think im runnin in the high 14's right now boosting 7lbs. But i don't have an intercooler and my clutch is slippin like crazy.
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Old 11-30-2001, 09:24 PM   #29
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............ WHo eva....say.... SI's aint shit....u havent raced me........ SI;'s are fast.....just depends...on the driver and WHat u got.............



99 SI
Drag....turbo....
Too Many mods...to list......
Don't mess wit me...........lol
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Old 11-30-2001, 09:24 PM   #30
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............ WHo eva....say.... SI's aint shit....u havent raced me........ SI;'s are fast.....just depends...on the driver and WHat u got.............



99 SI
Drag....turbo....
Too Many mods...to list......
Don't mess wit me...........lol
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Old 11-30-2001, 10:48 PM   #31
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hmm.. read it carefully... he said si sucks compare to a D16 turbo
he didn't say si with a turbo sucks, like urs.. i know u are fast...

drag is for fast car, turn is for fast driver :P
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Old 12-01-2001, 04:30 AM   #32
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There are alot of variables that will factor in, but in a word, yes you *should* be able to beat Si's and GS-R's. Si's I really don't waste much time on anymore, GS-R's make for a better race.. well not really, but I'd like to think so I've gotta find an ITR to try on for size

imma have to go VTC_Civic on this one.... but u said u dont wast time on Si's lol....wanna try me??
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