.:HSTuners::

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-15-2004, 05:41 PM

...one of these?
Drive Master Cylinder Brace

Its cheaper than the cusco and spoon units but still looks to be good quality.

I have seen my mc/bb unit flex under braking, and it moves a lot more than I thought it would...so I thought this might be a nice little final addition to my brake setup (since Ive decided against ss lines). The unit bolts to the shock tower side, which is much thicker than the firewall.

Just checking to see if anyone has experience or knows someone w/ one. Lots of reviews on h-t...but I trust the seasoned hst user more than the majority of h-t users.

thermal · 08-15-2004, 07:44 PM

hmmm... how's that work? What bolts on the that? As you know, I'm in the process of fixing my BB and MC problem anyway... this might be a good mod...

ebpda9 · 08-15-2004, 07:51 PM

what does it do ?

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-15-2004, 07:54 PM

Video
http://www.driverr.com/DriveRR/Movies/MOV00076.MPG
Thats w/ the bolt not extended. It does move pretty far imo.

Extend the bolt on the end and it prevents it from moving from firewall-flex.

nonovurbizniz · 08-19-2004, 10:48 PM

The one's that mount to the strut tower side generally cause flex during hard cornering... as that whole area move around a little in hard cornering..

Also if you think about the physics of the master/booster all the pressure is inside... you don't lose pressure because the mounted unit wiggles a little...

I never really understood how that's supposed to improve braking.

ebpda9 · 08-19-2004, 10:55 PM

me neither, but it bight be just the pedal feel, because the stopper will prevent the firewall from flexing under hard braking.

anyway i get a bit offtopic here, but why did u decinde against the ss braided brake lines ?

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-20-2004, 12:44 AM

it improves pedal feel...not really braking power.

Ibe seen and heard a lot (too many) people getting dirt in between the mesh and then having the teflon line tear because of it.
If I could cover the lines w/ a sheeth or something it would be safer. Though I think I have found some that come w/ a plastic coat @ king motorsports. I will call them tomorrow to ask about details

ebpda9 · 08-20-2004, 09:02 PM

ohh ok, i just got my russels (edelbrock) and they are plastic coated. i can prolly hook you up

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-21-2004, 07:15 AM

are the plastic parts sealed or open around the ends?

thermal · 08-21-2004, 07:46 AM

I dont think that will mount like that in my car. I got too much crap going on under the hood, plus I plan on getting a JG edelbrock IM. I might do it on my civic tho.... Good find man!

ebpda9 · 08-21-2004, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
are the plastic parts sealed or open around the ends?

sealed

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-21-2004, 02:25 PM

hit me up on aim dude about pricing on those. Youve got my newest aim info dont ya?

sicones · 08-21-2004, 07:04 PM

all I hear about when people upgrade there brakes they include ss lines, and they have been around for gods knows how long, sorry but I think thats a pretty stupid reson not to get them, thats like 1 in a 1000000, I dont think you should worry about dirt

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-21-2004, 07:10 PM

Im cautious. And if you think about it...a sheath is an excellent idea...in anycase. So if I know I can get it...Im going to just for the added secure feeling I get from em.
I want to buy 1 set of lines....not 2.

All it takes is 1 failure for me to question a product.

Have you seen a beaks subframe kit fail? I have...thats why I didnt buy one and will go w/ an a-spec racing brace instead. I like feeling confident w/ my parts.

ebpda9 · 08-21-2004, 07:46 PM

actually i don't have the lastest aim info for you. if you wann pm me with it that's fine. anyway i will do them under $100 shipped.

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-21-2004, 09:03 PM

pm'd ya bro

ebpda9 · 08-23-2004, 10:33 AM

ok here are some pics of them. i dunno how good you can see the plastic around them but it's worht a shot.

ebpda9 · 08-23-2004, 10:33 AM

ebpda9 · 08-23-2004, 10:34 AM

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-23-2004, 02:14 PM

ooohhhh....so the sheathing is just at the ends then?

ebpda9 · 08-23-2004, 03:39 PM

not, the main sheating is not to the ends that's why they use some extra shields for ends.

*pdiggitydogg* · 08-23-2004, 07:59 PM

wait...so they are not fully sheathed?
Im Confused

ebpda9 · 08-23-2004, 08:11 PM

they are fully sheated, just the ends are double sheated

08-15-2004, 05:41 PM	#1
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	Anyone have... ...one of these? Drive Master Cylinder Brace Its cheaper than the cusco and spoon units but still looks to be good quality. I have seen my mc/bb unit flex under braking, and it moves a lot more than I thought it would...so I thought this might be a nice little final addition to my brake setup (since Ive decided against ss lines). The unit bolts to the shock tower side, which is much thicker than the firewall. Just checking to see if anyone has experience or knows someone w/ one. Lots of reviews on h-t...but I trust the seasoned hst user more than the majority of h-t users.

08-15-2004, 07:44 PM	#2
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	hmmm... how's that work? What bolts on the that? As you know, I'm in the process of fixing my BB and MC problem anyway... this might be a good mod... __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

08-15-2004, 07:51 PM	#3
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	what does it do ? __________________

08-19-2004, 10:48 PM	#5
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 47 Posts: 2,693	The one's that mount to the strut tower side generally cause flex during hard cornering... as that whole area move around a little in hard cornering.. Also if you think about the physics of the master/booster all the pressure is inside... you don't lose pressure because the mounted unit wiggles a little... I never really understood how that's supposed to improve braking. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

08-19-2004, 10:55 PM	#6
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	me neither, but it bight be just the pedal feel, because the stopper will prevent the firewall from flexing under hard braking. anyway i get a bit offtopic here, but why did u decinde against the ss braided brake lines ? __________________

08-15-2004, 07:54 PM	#4
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	Video http://www.driverr.com/DriveRR/Movies/MOV00076.MPG Thats w/ the bolt not extended. It does move pretty far imo. Extend the bolt on the end and it prevents it from moving from firewall-flex.

08-20-2004, 12:44 AM	#7
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	it improves pedal feel...not really braking power. Ibe seen and heard a lot (too many) people getting dirt in between the mesh and then having the teflon line tear because of it. If I could cover the lines w/ a sheeth or something it would be safer. Though I think I have found some that come w/ a plastic coat @ king motorsports. I will call them tomorrow to ask about details

08-20-2004, 09:02 PM	#8
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	ohh ok, i just got my russels (edelbrock) and they are plastic coated. i can prolly hook you up __________________

08-21-2004, 07:15 AM	#9
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	are the plastic parts sealed or open around the ends?

08-21-2004, 07:46 AM	#10
thermal Banning Machine Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: My Garage, Va. Posts: 5,547	I dont think that will mount like that in my car. I got too much crap going on under the hood, plus I plan on getting a JG edelbrock IM. I might do it on my civic tho.... Good find man! __________________ Project Teg Visit the Turbo Forum

08-21-2004, 02:25 PM	#12
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	hit me up on aim dude about pricing on those. Youve got my newest aim info dont ya?

08-21-2004, 07:04 PM	#13
sicones Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: the MVP garage, New York City Posts: 516	all I hear about when people upgrade there brakes they include ss lines, and they have been around for gods knows how long, sorry but I think thats a pretty stupid reson not to get them, thats like 1 in a 1000000, I dont think you should worry about dirt

08-21-2004, 07:10 PM	#14
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	Im cautious. And if you think about it...a sheath is an excellent idea...in anycase. So if I know I can get it...Im going to just for the added secure feeling I get from em. I want to buy 1 set of lines....not 2. All it takes is 1 failure for me to question a product. Have you seen a beaks subframe kit fail? I have...thats why I didnt buy one and will go w/ an a-spec racing brace instead. I like feeling confident w/ my parts.

08-21-2004, 07:46 PM	#15
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	actually i don't have the lastest aim info for you. if you wann pm me with it that's fine. anyway i will do them under $100 shipped. __________________

08-21-2004, 09:03 PM	#16
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	pm'd ya bro

08-23-2004, 02:14 PM	#20
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	ooohhhh....so the sheathing is just at the ends then?

08-23-2004, 03:39 PM	#21
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	not, the main sheating is not to the ends that's why they use some extra shields for ends. __________________

08-23-2004, 07:59 PM	#22
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	wait...so they are not fully sheathed? Im Confused

08-23-2004, 08:11 PM	#23
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	they are fully sheated, just the ends are double sheated __________________

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