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98LsCoupe · 01-26-2006, 08:17 AM

I've got a 98 ex, "jdm" headlights, red/clear tails, greddy evo2 exhaust,4-1 header(off brand, not bad), it got an LS motor, block's been honed and had the crank done, ctr pistons on gsr rods, head has been redone and milled a lot to bump the compression and got all new seals, polished with no port job, 9 angle valve job. The whole thing got new seals, bearings, molly rings, cams(aftermarket,cant remember what kind, got them from a friend), str gears, aftermarket crank pully, b16 tranny w/4 puck clutch, i'm pushing prolly 12:1- 12.5:1 compression. Rollin on some bronze hx rims w/polished lip right now. 99 si seats, type r shift boot(black w/red stitch) with a no name short shifter. Thats about it. I know i want to find an aftermarket intake manifold and prolly a better header but this is my first all motor set up and i'm looking for some suggestions as to what i can do without going too crazy on it.
Thanks, A

*pdiggitydogg* · 01-26-2006, 08:26 AM

Figure out what cams, and then change to crower 404-2 instead, along with dual springs and ti retainers

and change to better seats

ebpda9 · 01-26-2006, 08:30 AM

skunk2 and victor x manifolds come to mind. also that whole setup begs for a hondata or aem ecu, unless you managed to change the maps on your ecu.

*AzCivic* · 01-26-2006, 10:50 AM

interesting, an all motor ls engine, you might want to consider doing an lsvtec setup.

98LsCoupe · 01-26-2006, 12:21 PM

not too hot on the ls/vtec setups personally, i have had a gsr, single cam all motor, single cam turbo, and a single cam juiced just for fun. so now my goal is to set up an all motor ls set up and it seems like it would be pretty much the same as any of my other set ups but i'm just looking for idea's/suggestions so that i make a well planned set up. Never used any kind of hondata or anything like it, what would be the benefit of it???what would i need besides someone to tune it???

98LsCoupe · 01-26-2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
Figure out what cams, and then change to crower 404-2 instead, along with dual springs and ti retainers

and change to better seats

why crower??

98LsCoupe · 01-26-2006, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hondaman-iac
skunk2 and victor x manifolds come to mind. also that whole setup begs for a hondata or aem ecu, unless you managed to change the maps on your ecu.

not a fan of the skunk2 mani, i've had one of those tested and the runners are all different sizes and it does not flow too well, better than stock yes, but not what i want to run. Have you run the victor x mani???worth the $$$???

*pdiggitydogg* · 01-26-2006, 01:30 PM

just my personal preference - im using crower springs/retainers and 403's in my ls turbo build (...or 404, I really cant decide)

Crowers are fairly inexpensive and, now with the new 20%+ cores, they are fairly durable.
I know the 403's will continue making power to at least 8.5k, the 404's are higher (but I wouldnt go above 9k unless you have a block girdle)
Did you ever measure the lift/duration of the cams you have in now? They cant be too wild, because you didnt mention any dual springs.

Tuning of anything will always net you the best gains over just winging it. Hondata has a lot of features that are fairly intricate and will net the most gain (over say an afc)

98LsCoupe · 01-26-2006, 02:29 PM

good info, no aftermarket springs/retainers, just stock, cam is fairly mild just to give it a little umph. I dont know too much about the whole hondata deal so any info is just going to help me to understand, thanks for that

*AzCivic* · 01-26-2006, 05:53 PM

so bumping up the compression was ok on the stock computer? did you have to pull timing?

JDMFantasy2k · 01-26-2006, 07:35 PM

www.tunewithcrome.com

the answer to all your problems

nonovurbizniz · 01-27-2006, 02:01 PM

If you're staying all motor then you might want to spend big money on the header and intake...

The bismoto header is supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the rest... that's internet chatter though... no personal experience with it myself.

*pdiggitydogg* · 01-27-2006, 02:11 PM

I didnt think those were produced anymore? Now only for F heads

nonovurbizniz · 01-27-2006, 09:47 PM

You're probobly right... I'm WAY out of touch when it comes to car stuff... I haven't had the time see whats going on in a while.

*AzCivic* · 01-28-2006, 11:53 AM

rmf is supposed to be pretty good:
http://importpowerhouse.com/custom_h...manifolds.htm#

01-26-2006, 08:17 AM	#1
98LsCoupe Parked Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 46 Posts: 8	All motor questions I've got a 98 ex, "jdm" headlights, red/clear tails, greddy evo2 exhaust,4-1 header(off brand, not bad), it got an LS motor, block's been honed and had the crank done, ctr pistons on gsr rods, head has been redone and milled a lot to bump the compression and got all new seals, polished with no port job, 9 angle valve job. The whole thing got new seals, bearings, molly rings, cams(aftermarket,cant remember what kind, got them from a friend), str gears, aftermarket crank pully, b16 tranny w/4 puck clutch, i'm pushing prolly 12:1- 12.5:1 compression. Rollin on some bronze hx rims w/polished lip right now. 99 si seats, type r shift boot(black w/red stitch) with a no name short shifter. Thats about it. I know i want to find an aftermarket intake manifold and prolly a better header but this is my first all motor set up and i'm looking for some suggestions as to what i can do without going too crazy on it. Thanks, A

01-26-2006, 08:30 AM	#3
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	skunk2 and victor x manifolds come to mind. also that whole setup begs for a hondata or aem ecu, unless you managed to change the maps on your ecu. __________________

01-26-2006, 07:35 PM	#11
JDMFantasy2k Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: northeastern connecticut Age: 37 Posts: 1,765	www.tunewithcrome.com the answer to all your problems __________________

01-27-2006, 02:01 PM	#12
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 47 Posts: 2,693	If you're staying all motor then you might want to spend big money on the header and intake... The bismoto header is supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the rest... that's internet chatter though... no personal experience with it myself. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

01-27-2006, 09:47 PM	#14
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 47 Posts: 2,693	You're probobly right... I'm WAY out of touch when it comes to car stuff... I haven't had the time see whats going on in a while. __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...

01-26-2006, 08:26 AM	#2
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	Figure out what cams, and then change to crower 404-2 instead, along with dual springs and ti retainers and change to better seats

01-26-2006, 10:50 AM	#4
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	interesting, an all motor ls engine, you might want to consider doing an lsvtec setup.

01-26-2006, 12:21 PM	#5
98LsCoupe Parked Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 46 Posts: 8	not too hot on the ls/vtec setups personally, i have had a gsr, single cam all motor, single cam turbo, and a single cam juiced just for fun. so now my goal is to set up an all motor ls set up and it seems like it would be pretty much the same as any of my other set ups but i'm just looking for idea's/suggestions so that i make a well planned set up. Never used any kind of hondata or anything like it, what would be the benefit of it???what would i need besides someone to tune it???

01-26-2006, 01:30 PM	#8
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	just my personal preference - im using crower springs/retainers and 403's in my ls turbo build (...or 404, I really cant decide) Crowers are fairly inexpensive and, now with the new 20%+ cores, they are fairly durable. I know the 403's will continue making power to at least 8.5k, the 404's are higher (but I wouldnt go above 9k unless you have a block girdle) Did you ever measure the lift/duration of the cams you have in now? They cant be too wild, because you didnt mention any dual springs. Tuning of anything will always net you the best gains over just winging it. Hondata has a lot of features that are fairly intricate and will net the most gain (over say an afc)

01-26-2006, 02:29 PM	#9
98LsCoupe Parked Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 46 Posts: 8	good info, no aftermarket springs/retainers, just stock, cam is fairly mild just to give it a little umph. I dont know too much about the whole hondata deal so any info is just going to help me to understand, thanks for that

01-26-2006, 05:53 PM	#10
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	so bumping up the compression was ok on the stock computer? did you have to pull timing?

01-27-2006, 02:11 PM	#13
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	I didnt think those were produced anymore? Now only for F heads

01-28-2006, 11:53 AM	#15
AzCivic Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Az Age: 43 Posts: 3,804	rmf is supposed to be pretty good: http://importpowerhouse.com/custom_h...manifolds.htm#

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