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CD5Passion · 10-26-2004, 12:10 AM

Ok Steve, I know you're gonna hound on me for this but I went and saw The Grudge....in short it was absolutly horrible in between the scare scenes....
and I've figured out the problem, American Actors for the most part completely suck at acting. Nearly the entire time I wanted too punch Sarah Michelle in the face everytime she spoke. had there been no american actors it may of been that much better. But before I try please someone tell me that Ju-On is much better. it had an interesting and good story to be told, but the way it was deliverd by some of the acting was terrible.....

RxGoaT13 · 10-26-2004, 12:34 AM

^yeah i'm just going to wait until it comes out on video to watch it. "saw" looks like it might be okay but who knows. Never seen Ju-on.

GT40FIED · 10-26-2004, 12:53 AM

The only reason I'd bash you is because you went and saw it in the first place. Of course it's going to suck. How many Amerikan adaptations of Japanese movies have been good? The Ring? No. The Eye (which hasn't come out yet but will be coming out)? No. Shall We Dance (yes, that new film is a Japanese remake that got shit on)? No. THEY WILL ALL SUCK. The only reason they work so well in Japan is because they're creative and leave a ton of loose ends (and Darin, you should know a thing or two about loose ends

). Amerikans like to have everything wrapped in a nice little package that comes together at the end (something I suspect Darin is also familiar with

) and gives us all a warm fuzzy feeling of closure. But yes...Ju-On was much better. Actually there are 4 Japanese Ju-On movies..."Ju-On", "Ju-On 2", "Ju-on: The Grudge", and "Ju-On: The Grudge 2". All are surely infinitely better than the Amerikan piece of trash, though I've only seen the first one which kicked much ass.

CD5Passion · 10-26-2004, 01:19 AM

oh so there's actually 4 different Ju-on's. Yeah one thing that pissed me off is that we went to see it with a female and she said the ending sucked, which kinda threw me off because the ending leaves you wondering and open. I thought it was a decent ending, fuck happy endings

but anyways I'll have to see these other Ju-Ons. I didn't even want to see The Grudge to begin with, my friend wanted to see it and it was a better option than sitting at home

GT40FIED · 10-26-2004, 01:31 AM

In the first one nothing is explained and the ending is so wide open you could drive a truck through it...which rules because happy endings blow. Here's a short list of movies to watch from Asia to cover yourself as they are all of sufficient badassity (I will, of course, assume you've already seen "Hero"):

Suicide Circle
Ju-On (any of them)
Visitor Q
Both "Battle Royale" flicks
Ong-Bak
Fist Of Legend

Then you'll be able to say you've seen some of the most bad ass Asian cinema ever.

IALuder · 10-26-2004, 03:30 AM

yea, i only watch the asian versions. america ruins good forgien films.

as for ong-bak. i went to suncoast, best buy sam goodie, none of them had it. so im back to square one. DLing it.

GT40FIED · 10-26-2004, 05:44 AM

If you have bittorent, I got it from The Pirate Bay. There's TONS of great Asian stuff there. You just need Vobsub to see the subtitles for some of them.

IALuder · 10-26-2004, 09:19 AM

^ahh why thanks Steve. that made things a lot easier!

MissJDM · 10-27-2004, 01:34 PM

Unfortunately, I saw The Grudge after hearing good ratings from some co-workers. My theory? Never listen to a damn thing my coworkers say! It reminded me of The Ring.. the only scary chit was those damn asian faces..which appeared over..and over..and over again. Did anyone find the ending odd? I feel like I'm the only one that didn't realize it was the end.

10-26-2004, 12:10 AM	#1
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	Dissapointment Ok Steve, I know you're gonna hound on me for this but I went and saw The Grudge....in short it was absolutly horrible in between the scare scenes.... and I've figured out the problem, American Actors for the most part completely suck at acting. Nearly the entire time I wanted too punch Sarah Michelle in the face everytime she spoke. had there been no american actors it may of been that much better. But before I try please someone tell me that Ju-On is much better. it had an interesting and good story to be told, but the way it was deliverd by some of the acting was terrible..... __________________

10-26-2004, 12:34 AM	#2
RxGoaT13 4th Gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 801	^yeah i'm just going to wait until it comes out on video to watch it. "saw" looks like it might be okay but who knows. Never seen Ju-on. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/rxgoat13

10-26-2004, 12:53 AM	#3
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	The only reason I'd bash you is because you went and saw it in the first place. Of course it's going to suck. How many Amerikan adaptations of Japanese movies have been good? The Ring? No. The Eye (which hasn't come out yet but will be coming out)? No. Shall We Dance (yes, that new film is a Japanese remake that got shit on)? No. THEY WILL ALL SUCK. The only reason they work so well in Japan is because they're creative and leave a ton of loose ends (and Darin, you should know a thing or two about loose ends). Amerikans like to have everything wrapped in a nice little package that comes together at the end (something I suspect Darin is also familiar with) and gives us all a warm fuzzy feeling of closure. But yes...Ju-On was much better. Actually there are 4 Japanese Ju-On movies..."Ju-On", "Ju-On 2", "Ju-on: The Grudge", and "Ju-On: The Grudge 2". All are surely infinitely better than the Amerikan piece of trash, though I've only seen the first one which kicked much ass. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

10-26-2004, 01:19 AM	#4
CD5Passion Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santa Barbara, California Age: 38 Posts: 5,446	oh so there's actually 4 different Ju-on's. Yeah one thing that pissed me off is that we went to see it with a female and she said the ending sucked, which kinda threw me off because the ending leaves you wondering and open. I thought it was a decent ending, fuck happy endings but anyways I'll have to see these other Ju-Ons. I didn't even want to see The Grudge to begin with, my friend wanted to see it and it was a better option than sitting at home __________________

10-26-2004, 01:31 AM	#5
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	In the first one nothing is explained and the ending is so wide open you could drive a truck through it...which rules because happy endings blow. Here's a short list of movies to watch from Asia to cover yourself as they are all of sufficient badassity (I will, of course, assume you've already seen "Hero"): Suicide Circle Ju-On (any of them) Visitor Q Both "Battle Royale" flicks Ong-Bak Fist Of Legend Then you'll be able to say you've seen some of the most bad ass Asian cinema ever. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

10-26-2004, 03:30 AM	#6
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	yea, i only watch the asian versions. america ruins good forgien films. as for ong-bak. i went to suncoast, best buy sam goodie, none of them had it. so im back to square one. DLing it. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

10-26-2004, 05:44 AM	#7
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	If you have bittorent, I got it from The Pirate Bay. There's TONS of great Asian stuff there. You just need Vobsub to see the subtitles for some of them. __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika

10-26-2004, 09:19 AM	#8
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	^ahh why thanks Steve. that made things a lot easier! __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

10-27-2004, 01:34 PM	#9
MissJDM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Coast Age: 38 Posts: 2,244	Unfortunately, I saw The Grudge after hearing good ratings from some co-workers. My theory? Never listen to a damn thing my coworkers say! It reminded me of The Ring.. the only scary chit was those damn asian faces..which appeared over..and over..and over again. Did anyone find the ending odd? I feel like I'm the only one that didn't realize it was the end. __________________ you say it best when you say nothing at all

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