.:HSTuners::

02-10-2004, 11:46 AM

Ok...here's a stupid question, but since I'm new to the whole Honda tuner scene (it's my first Honda):

I know VTec is great. High school kiddies lust after it. Muscle car fanatics ridicule it. Honda doesn't put it in enough cars. But...um...when does it kick in? 3,500 RPM? 4,000 RPM? I've had my Del Sol (on the highway) up to 4,500 in fifth gear, and I didn't feel any sudden "boost". Don't flame me - I'm just wondering:

When does the VTec system kick in? Why can't I feel any noticable difference?

- General Dzur

*pdiggitydogg* · 02-10-2004, 12:07 PM

yours kicks in around 4800 (d16z6 w/ a p28)

different engines have vtec engagement @ different points

ebpda9 · 02-10-2004, 12:11 PM

and vtec is not ever gonna get you a sudden boost in power unless you have some radical cam setup.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-10-2004, 12:39 PM

mines a pretty noticable power increase

02-10-2004, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisCantSkate
mines a pretty noticable power increase

my old and new one did too.

Now, as you know not every honda has VTEC. If you have a del sol type s i dont even think u have it.

Unless u got the sol Si i dont think u will feel a dramatic inscrease

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-10-2004, 10:51 PM

unless you have a dohc engine with some mods you wont really feel a noticable power increase, mine didnt feel like anything untill i/e/h and cam gears, and a bit of vafc tuning. you'll hear it on sohc, but from my experience, the power just isnt as noticable on sohc vtecs

IALuder · 02-10-2004, 11:49 PM

its noticable in my LUDE. its stock to.

02-11-2004, 12:35 PM

I'm sure I have a VTec....because when I open the hood it says "Honda VTec".

The engine is a SOHC, as you guys pointed out. So you're saying I won't feel any noticable power boost unless I have new cam gears? Thats where you get into an area I don't know anything about. Advice? please?

- General Dzur

*pdiggitydogg* · 02-11-2004, 12:47 PM

its an sohc so youre probably never going to really feel it kick on like you would with a dohc...its more of a noise thing

oh, and just because it says vtec doesnt really mean anything. my valvecover doesnt say vtec but i still know it has it (look for the solenoids off to the left instead)

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-11-2004, 01:45 PM

yeah vtec isnt the end all problem in honda engines... its just a feature to let you have a more aggressive lift/durration on your valuves at high rmps, while keeping low gas milage and easier city driving in low rmps

02-11-2004, 02:37 PM

Really? Didn't know that...thanks. How much do DOHC 1.6 V's run? Although I'll probably stick with the stock engine.

- General Dzur

*pdiggitydogg* · 02-11-2004, 03:02 PM

are you asking how much do they cost?
B16's can run anywhere from $1k-4k (im including a1's and ctr in that)

the d16z6 is a fine engine...

esthirteen · 02-11-2004, 03:30 PM

When my friend (sohc_vtec 2NR) had his exhaust intalled, you could here the difference in the noise of the exhaust once you hit vtec. Also if I remember correctly, you could hear the car change sound even when it just had intake installed on it.

94_AcCoRd_EX · 02-11-2004, 03:41 PM

Mine's SOHC VTEC and when I stuck on my intake, I could hear the difference, but I don't think there's much (any) power increase when it switches.

*ChrisCantSkate* · 02-11-2004, 04:08 PM

well... the ideal way for vtec to work, is right when your lower cam grind and upper cam grind torque curves meet, because then you have the best power possible at any given time for that particular cam. if you went aftermarket, and got a performance stick in there instead of the stock one, you could really fine tune your engine(on stock internals) with a set of cam gears

02-11-2004, 05:41 PM

Looking around on eBay...found a nice engine...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615

Check it out. Don't think it would fit though...

- Dzur

*pdiggitydogg* · 02-11-2004, 06:10 PM

sure it will fit
i wouldnt buy a motor off ebay though

if youre really looking to get a different engine check out hmotorsonline.com or importautosalvage.com

02-10-2004, 11:46 AM	#1
GeneralDzur Posts: n/a	Yes....stupid question..but help me out Ok...here's a stupid question, but since I'm new to the whole Honda tuner scene (it's my first Honda): I know VTec is great. High school kiddies lust after it. Muscle car fanatics ridicule it. Honda doesn't put it in enough cars. But...um...when does it kick in? 3,500 RPM? 4,000 RPM? I've had my Del Sol (on the highway) up to 4,500 in fifth gear, and I didn't feel any sudden "boost". Don't flame me - I'm just wondering: When does the VTec system kick in? Why can't I feel any noticable difference? - General Dzur

02-10-2004, 12:11 PM	#3
ebpda9 Repost Wagon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: over here Age: 44 Posts: 17,266	and vtec is not ever gonna get you a sudden boost in power unless you have some radical cam setup. __________________

02-10-2004, 12:39 PM	#4
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	mines a pretty noticable power increase __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

02-10-2004, 10:51 PM	#6
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	unless you have a dohc engine with some mods you wont really feel a noticable power increase, mine didnt feel like anything untill i/e/h and cam gears, and a bit of vafc tuning. you'll hear it on sohc, but from my experience, the power just isnt as noticable on sohc vtecs __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

02-10-2004, 11:49 PM	#7
IALuder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Age: 38 Posts: 7,908	its noticable in my LUDE. its stock to. __________________ 93 Si H23vtec......soon to be 12lbs 95 Civic EX....automatic DD if you cant dazzle them with your brillance, baffle them with your bullshit.

02-10-2004, 12:07 PM	#2
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	yours kicks in around 4800 (d16z6 w/ a p28) different engines have vtec engagement @ different points

02-11-2004, 12:35 PM	#8
GeneralDzur Posts: n/a	I'm sure I have a VTec....because when I open the hood it says "Honda VTec". The engine is a SOHC, as you guys pointed out. So you're saying I won't feel any noticable power boost unless I have new cam gears? Thats where you get into an area I don't know anything about. Advice? please? - General Dzur

02-11-2004, 12:47 PM	#9
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	its an sohc so youre probably never going to really feel it kick on like you would with a dohc...its more of a noise thing oh, and just because it says vtec doesnt really mean anything. my valvecover doesnt say vtec but i still know it has it (look for the solenoids off to the left instead)

02-11-2004, 01:45 PM	#10
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	yeah vtec isnt the end all problem in honda engines... its just a feature to let you have a more aggressive lift/durration on your valuves at high rmps, while keeping low gas milage and easier city driving in low rmps __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

02-11-2004, 02:37 PM	#11
GeneralDzur Posts: n/a	Really? Didn't know that...thanks. How much do DOHC 1.6 V's run? Although I'll probably stick with the stock engine. - General Dzur

02-11-2004, 03:02 PM	#12
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	are you asking how much do they cost? B16's can run anywhere from $1k-4k (im including a1's and ctr in that) the d16z6 is a fine engine...

02-11-2004, 03:30 PM	#13
esthirteen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kenosha, WI Age: 38 Posts: 334	When my friend (sohc_vtec 2NR) had his exhaust intalled, you could here the difference in the noise of the exhaust once you hit vtec. Also if I remember correctly, you could hear the car change sound even when it just had intake installed on it. __________________ Goodbye KA24E motor. Have fun in "motor heaven". Fat girls are like scooters...they are fun until your friends see you riding one.

02-11-2004, 03:41 PM	#14
94_AcCoRd_EX Insomniac Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OR Age: 43 Posts: 11,142	Mine's SOHC VTEC and when I stuck on my intake, I could hear the difference, but I don't think there's much (any) power increase when it switches. __________________ 1994 Accord EX coupe --Need hosting for your pics on HST? PM me...--

02-11-2004, 04:08 PM	#15
ChrisCantSkate Thought Police Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: orlando florida Age: 40 Posts: 9,662	well... the ideal way for vtec to work, is right when your lower cam grind and upper cam grind torque curves meet, because then you have the best power possible at any given time for that particular cam. if you went aftermarket, and got a performance stick in there instead of the stock one, you could really fine tune your engine(on stock internals) with a set of cam gears __________________ Black Vtec Prelude-h22a power'd Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings. I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold.

02-11-2004, 05:41 PM	#16
GeneralDzur Posts: n/a	Looking around on eBay...found a nice engine... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615 Check it out. Don't think it would fit though... - Dzur

02-11-2004, 06:10 PM	#17
pdiggitydogg Yahoo Watashi wa kattaze! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Meanwhile, up in The D... Age: 41 Posts: 10,579	sure it will fit i wouldnt buy a motor off ebay though if youre really looking to get a different engine check out hmotorsonline.com or importautosalvage.com

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