I thought this thread got locked...
Well good I get to add another .02
Bootstrap ?!?!? How come you didn't quote me... I feel dissapointed... yet complimented...
Here's the end of your debate... attempt to quote me if you dare...
The man Jesus did exist.... Proven by many other sources than the bible...
the man Jesus did preform miracles... proven by many other sources than the bible...
Jesus Claimed to be God, the son of god, and our only hope of salvation, Jesus preformed all these miracles in order to prove that to those around him.
We must either chose to believe that or disbelieve based on the records that we have.
Well we have many records stating he worked up crowds with miracles and magic acts...
We have a pretty acurate story of his life, and he seemed like a great guy, healing all those people, and feeding people, and blessing kids, never cursed anyone, never hurt anyone,
But he did get in trouble for preaching this new religion, where he was salvation and the son of God.
Then we have to look at ... well just how acurate is this bible... I mean is was written a long time ago, by many authors, but is the main source for information on Jesus.
The only real way we can do that is to evalute that is to look at the events and prophies (sp?) that the bilbe claimed to have happen and have predicted....
None of the events of the bible have been disproven , many included Noah's arc have been proven.
Now like take a look at the Prophesies of the bible...
They are incredible. . .
I wish I knew bible passages off the top of my head, but I don't... the two that come to mind are
Joesph's inturpetation of the Pharoh's dream in genisis.
and thier was a great one i just heard a little while ago at
www.tonyevans.org i would encourage all my fellow christians to check this site out, this guy is great, and right now he's doing a lot of Biblical prophesy .
the other one is the Prophet who gets called to a king to inturped a dream, about a monster, that gets swallowed by another monster, that gets swallowed by another monster. And he nailed that one on the head, but it didn't get proven till well after his life time, cause the dream was about the fall of that kingdom, I'm thinkin Babylon, and the fall of the next kingdom.
Anyway, Bootstrap, your problem is your not seeking knowledge for what its worth, with a sincere sense. Most of your Idea have come from your own head, and have no backing except for simple comprehension. When your drop the Idea that YOU are smart enough to figure the world out, and seek the answer sincerely, than the Answer that christ is lord, will always follow a search bases on fact and logic.