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Originally posted by bootstrap
Now i know most of you believe in some sort of God, go to church, you know follow the motions. But if you actually took time to think about it, there is no way that there is a "God" as we know it (not saying something didn't create matter, but its at least not what we think it is i.e. some being with human characteristics). I'm sorry, you can present your arguments and i will refute them all clearly and concisely, i always find it interesting to what people have to say about this subject since its very controversial and technically there is no right or wrong (but some things just make a hell of alot more sense than others).
Its called "brainwashing" folk.
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Because there is a word called "perfect" there obviously has to be a meaning for it. Perfect meaning having no flaws, no sin, no evil inside that "perfect" somthing or "someone". Everyone strives to be perfect. Why do you make yourself better by taking care of yourselves, getting rid of pride, or racist thoughts, why do people have eating disorders, or have low self esteem. Why do we do such things to ourselves??? Because we want to be PERFECT! We all want to get rid of our flaws and become perfect, we all want everyone to like us, to accept us, in a sense to love us. So we have this view of perfection there has to be a perfect being for us to observe and measure ourselves to that person. How do we know what perfection is without a perfect being existing? how do we know how to be perfect wihtout there being a God who we can measure oursevles to? God is perfect. Because we want to be perfect and we need a person to measure our selves in the level of perfection, God does exist.
In the beginning, how did we come to being? If you believe in the big bang, then you have to believe that before that big bang there was nothing. nothing existed, thats what evoultionist believe. now if the big bang ever did exist, then there had to be a prime mover of that explosion. Even if you say " well..some mocules gathered together and caused that explosion, it wasn't God!!" Then you have to ask yourselves..where did those couple molecuse come from? Who made it? did it just pop from nowhere and then make the explosion happen? No, the answer is that there was and is a prime mover who caused that explosion and that has to be God.
What i'm trying to say is, we can argue all we want, but we are not going to get anywhere. If you really want to talk about God, then im me or email me a
choverine@Hotmail.com then we can talk more in depth without the hinderance of a forum. drop me a line bootstrap, we'll talk.