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Originally Posted by AzCivic
sorry, it just amazes me that someone who can sound so smart can be swayed into believing anything as long as it shows the gov't is out to get us.
I've presented arguments but you pretty much just ignore them...tell me how explosives can survive being crashed into by a jumbo jet and sit in an inferno without going off? They had to have been on that floor, that pic/vid I posted shows the collapse beginning at that exact point. The pic also shows that the top part of the tower did lean as it fell, but not enough for you I guess. So not only did these explosives survive a plane crash and subsuquent fire, but they also were able to go off and bring the building down at exactly the same time, AND they went off starting at the impact point in order to make the top part of the tower lean as it fell.
And I guess 911 call centers have no idea what time they receive a call? The first time I heard it it was just audio, I had to do a search real quick and found it w/ that video, sorry if that somehow makes it hard for you to hear the building collapsing with out explosives going off first.
Your open mindedness seems to go out the windw when the issue of the gov't not being out to get you is at hand.
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You know Rob...I really think you misunderstand where I'm coming from. It doesn't have anything to do with the government being "out to get us". That's ridiculous because without the people, what would they govern. I do, however, think that this administration wants a lot more power than it has and has gone to some amazing lengths to get it (see: PATRIOT Act). There's a big difference between not trusting the government and thinking they're out to get little 'ole me. It just so happens that, in this instance, that distrust doesn't make it hard for me to believe that they're capable of terrible things.
As for your explosives at crash sight theory, what doesn't make sense there? As Chris pointed out, certain explosives are inert in fire. And even if they weren't, if you went ahead and planned that far in advance, how hard would it be to put some insulation around the shit?
And I think you missed my point about that call. Without any hard data to back it up, it loses any context. I mean...if you listen to the audio only, it's much easier to draw your own conclusions. However, if you put the audio over a video and time it just right so that everything happens the way YOU think it should then it takes on a whole new meaning. I'm not saying that it didn't happen that way...I'm saying that without proper conext the audio is useless.
Oh...and I'm still waiting on an explanation for the prescence of thermate.