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GT40FIED · 03-07-2005, 06:20 AM

You say all of that, yet you're a staunch supporter of Bush? Of course all relgious belief is rooted in the afterlife...it's not something that can be proven while on earth so the only way to get people to comply is by promising them paradise afterwords. The "afterwords" being the part that no man can explain or claim to comprehend. It's not like anyone can come back and tell you yes or no on the grounds of heaven or hell. Almost every war throughout the history of time can be linked to religion (with the possible exception of the Spanish-American war that is almost solely due to the propoganda of William Randolph Hurst), so why fight them? I don't see people sitting in darkened rooms saying "my god is better than yours...we must fight to the death!". I think the majority of the problem is that christianity spread like a cancer over Europe, especially in it's infancy due to the belief that it was superior to all other faiths. This lead to torture at the hands of "christians" during the inquisition and to hundreds of thousands of deaths during the crusades (the children's crusades were a particularly nice touch...send kids to their deaths). As a matter of fact, religion and death CAN be removed from one another if the person has the constitution to distinguish one from the other.

Look no further than Israel vs. Palestinians. True, there has never been a nation known as "Palestine". Then again ,Israel wasn't a state until 1947 when it was established as a sort of apology for the holocaust. Now they battle it out and we chose sides. Some might tell you it's because god stated that he who supports Israel will be loved and he who curses Israel will be cursed. Bullshit. It's because there are more jewish voters in this country than there are muslim. There's nothing wrong with that fact until you start taking sides in a bullshit fight for a bullshit cause with a bullshit result. They're ALL wrong and chances are if there is a god he'd be pissed that we're supplying one with money and guns and not the other.

People will never see eye to eye. As stated before, there are 6 billion people on this planet. That means there are 6 billion different ideas of peace and love and war and violence and poverty and wealth. That said, a selfish handful of people (namely the UN) define what peace, love, war, violence, poverty, and wealth really mean in modern societies. How can wars be waged in the name of religions where fools dole out what it right and wrong?

03-07-2005, 06:20 AM	#2
GT40FIED Best...mod...ever Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: At the end of the longest line Age: 43 Posts: 7,451	You say all of that, yet you're a staunch supporter of Bush? Of course all relgious belief is rooted in the afterlife...it's not something that can be proven while on earth so the only way to get people to comply is by promising them paradise afterwords. The "afterwords" being the part that no man can explain or claim to comprehend. It's not like anyone can come back and tell you yes or no on the grounds of heaven or hell. Almost every war throughout the history of time can be linked to religion (with the possible exception of the Spanish-American war that is almost solely due to the propoganda of William Randolph Hurst), so why fight them? I don't see people sitting in darkened rooms saying "my god is better than yours...we must fight to the death!". I think the majority of the problem is that christianity spread like a cancer over Europe, especially in it's infancy due to the belief that it was superior to all other faiths. This lead to torture at the hands of "christians" during the inquisition and to hundreds of thousands of deaths during the crusades (the children's crusades were a particularly nice touch...send kids to their deaths). As a matter of fact, religion and death CAN be removed from one another if the person has the constitution to distinguish one from the other. Look no further than Israel vs. Palestinians. True, there has never been a nation known as "Palestine". Then again ,Israel wasn't a state until 1947 when it was established as a sort of apology for the holocaust. Now they battle it out and we chose sides. Some might tell you it's because god stated that he who supports Israel will be loved and he who curses Israel will be cursed. Bullshit. It's because there are more jewish voters in this country than there are muslim. There's nothing wrong with that fact until you start taking sides in a bullshit fight for a bullshit cause with a bullshit result. They're ALL wrong and chances are if there is a god he'd be pissed that we're supplying one with money and guns and not the other. People will never see eye to eye. As stated before, there are 6 billion people on this planet. That means there are 6 billion different ideas of peace and love and war and violence and poverty and wealth. That said, a selfish handful of people (namely the UN) define what peace, love, war, violence, poverty, and wealth really mean in modern societies. How can wars be waged in the name of religions where fools dole out what it right and wrong? __________________ 1984 1/2 Mustang GT350 #842, Faster than you...nuff said Anna Fan Club President/Dictator Someday, in the event that mankind actually figures out what it is that this world actually revoles around, thousands of people are going to be shocked and perplexed that it was not them. Sometimes this includes me. "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell Welcome to the new Amerika