[ChrisCantSkate]

Originally posted by V8killimports
Well they are not in a "loop hole". They are not POWs as the current GC defines them. If they chose to follow the rules and they really wanted to be treated as POWs it would be pretty easy for them to do so.. but they don't want to wear a uniform or identifiable symbol or anything to that nature.. among other things.. If you want to play the game follow the rules. It's pretty simple really.

it is a loop hole for us, not them. it somehow gives us the right apparently to tourture because they dont follow the traditional military uniform. its just like the british vs. the revoulonists, we were a different type of army to deal with, and shit had to adapt. its a different kind of battle.

And like I said I have heard no reports of torture at gitmo.. but I have heard of terrorist torturing people left and right.

then what is this all about if we havnt been tourtuing people? i was under the assumtion we have been. i dont watch the news since its so biased one way or the other.

Let's talk about that. Again.. focused on the evil americans.. always the americans who cause problems. Remember.. there was no OIF or OEF before 911.. there were no detainees before 911.. but this is all the evil americans fault.

when your in control of the entire world, you have to set an example. lead by demonstration, not by preaching one thing and doing another. take an unbiased look at this. they are wrong, we can be just as wrong, but justify it by a 50 year old piece of paper written in results of world wars. but if they tourture one of our troops then its the end of the world. dont get me wrong, i dont want to see one of our boys hurt, and i dont think that we should shrug it off if any of our tropps are injured in any way, but its because they treated people in their own country(its not exactly their people most the timecause of the diverse religous standpoints in that part of the world) that we have been able to justify overthrowing power. its just hypocritical, and everyone but americans see it.

and to reiterate a point since i think you think i mean we're toruturing iraqi's, i used sadam and his tourture methods as an example of a government tourturing a disassociated group of indiviuals. he could have thought they jepordized his power, thus shocked the shit out of them to get info. and what are we doing? taking in people who we think are terrorists then doing the same thingtourture of some sort, not neccisarily hooking jumper cables up to someone) cause it jepordizes our safty/power. in the later part of operation iraqi freedom i remember alot of people falling back on "well he may not have had actual WMDs but he was an evil person who was very cruel to his people" which in my eyes is 100% completely fine, if thats what you come out and say, and thats what you stick to. but you cannot turn around and do the same exact thing to a different group of people, for almost the same reason. just because we operate under freedom and democracy, and fight for the rights of everyone in the world(that is what we're doing right) dosnt mean we have to follow it. does it?

I mean come on.. stop lettig the media run your life.. a man gets his head sawed off in the street, while iraqis are doing naked pyramids in a prison. What does the media focus on? The naked pyramid.. the terrorists can do no wrong. The media is the terrorists/insurgents biggest propaganda tool and people don't even realize it.

your trying to justify us being able to get away with stuff because of our enemies doing worse. i dont let the media run my life, the only paper i read is the wallstreet journal sometimes, and my school paper about local news and sports. i refuse to read political stuff in the paper because of how bisaed it is. i didnt even read anything about the topic at hand, i simply stated my own opinion on what i think about us tourturing people