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Originally posted by SFKing
i dont get it. personally this swap is going to cost around 5-7K. why not just buy a prelude for that?
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Because u cant buy one for that. Duh. Atleast not a good one. One of my friends bought a 97 Type S with 86,000 miles on it. The sticker price was 16,000 dollars. He walked away with it for 14,000. That was about 2 years ago or so. Any Prelude that hasnt been ragged and is in good shape (we are talking about H22A VTEC, and Type S models) is about twice as expensive as 5 to 7 K. Also this swap doesnt cost 5 to 7K. Another reason is the Prelude is 2900 pounds. The Civic hatchs runs about 2120 to 2250 pounds. Hmm about an average of 700 pounds lighter. A hatch runs 13.30's to 13.50s bone stock on slicks. A prelude would be running the 14's with the same engine on slicks. We have covered this b4. It can be done for 3,500 or less if u know what u are doing and can do some wiring.
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Originally posted by pdiggitydogg
k doesnt envolve all the same work as an h does but id say the cost is higher for the h.....
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umm big negative there. Have u ever priced the k20's? Try about 6,000 dollars just for the engine, tranny and ECU, obviously there is still things that need to be bought after that. U can get H22's for about a one third of that price.
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Originally posted by blind34_1
You're going to want to plan for a few months of downtime as you work all of the bugs out..... and after all that, you get to peice together a new suspension system, cause your car is probably going to handle like crap....
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ok just to finish up here. First of all it doesnt take months of fabricating. As a matter of fact I know someone that can do this swap in two days with all his own wiring, and making all his own axles. Its not really that bad. As far as car handling like crap. That is a myth, it can handle. Sure the stock suspension is too soft. Thats why its spring rates and strut bars are the key to making one of these handle. I have rode in and driven H22'd hatches that handle extremely well. Also another point people prolly dont know is the experience I have with these particular hatchs is that in a straight line they hook up very hard (compared to D hatches). My old D16Z 92 Civic hatchback with 15 inch rims with Pirelli tires, and an LSD, did a best 60' of 2.20. Integra Type R's usually run in the 2.3 to 2.4 range. So if that tells u how my old car stacks up. Well its not uncommon for a Civic hatch to break under 2 second 60 foot times on normal street tires. I am not kidding either. I didnt believe it until I drove one. As a matter of fact I just spoke to a guy whose Civic hatch ran a 1.99 60 foot on Falkien Azenis tires on 15 inch rims with no LSD. Pretty incredible if u ask me. The only way I could explain this if u ever see an H22 in a hatch u will notice the engine sits very far forward. It has a good amount of weight sitting in front of the axles. My only theory is that the weight distribution when launching is more advantageous that a D powered Civic cuz of where the engines sits; i guess u could say it plants the front tires in a way. Dont get me wrong u can still easily break the tires loose with the torque if u drop the clutch above 3,000 RPM or so (depends on mods obviously here).