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Old 12-29-2003, 06:21 AM   #22
Honda_Tengoku
 
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Originally posted by AzCivic
no, i meant a 1.8ltr D16z6



ohh misunderstanding. Well u still are looking at about 1200 dollars here for the D16Z6, tranny and ecu, then your 2500 dollar resleeve and built shortblock. so you are looking at about 3700 for just a swap and the resleeve. SO everything taken into consideration I would be looking at about 4,000 to swap this engine in for everything. Still about the same price as my H22 is. After that I would turbo it or something to make power, then u are talking about 1500 to 3000 dollars on a turbo kit. Your are still looking at a more expensive engine than an all motor H22 and like I said b4 I still would have stock rims, stock engine, and stock suspension, UGGGG!!!. After that u would have to start adding boost right? Well there are hidden costs like swapping your map sensor over to a 3 bar map sensor. Cuz u cant get above 11 pounds of boost and have your ECU recognize it. That costs about 300 dollars there with rewiring and everything. Not to mention the car would have to go with lots of dyno seesions for tuning at higher boost levels (that gets expensive quick). As I said b4 u still would be stuck with an engine that doesnt make much torque in the lower RPM band. One thing I wanted to ask was about your built shortblock is how the 1.8 liters is attained? Is the crank left stock and resleeved larger with pistons and rods? If it is then that engine will make no more torque NA than the loley ol D16Z6. U see just because it is now a 1.8 doesnt mean it would make torque like the acura 1.8L engines. U see its stroke length that creates torque. Even if the crank is swapped out for a larger stroke one, it still wouldnt make enough torque for me even if it was stroked. U just can compete with naturally aspirated 161 ft pounds of torque stock man, not to mention alot of torque in the lower RPM band which the 1.8/D16Z doesnt have and will never have with a turbo. Obviously your built shortblock would be ready for a turbo and lots of freakin boost but how much are u willing to spend! I think its a bit more expensive than u think. But as I said b4 I really dont want to go turbo right now. Or I could go JRSC if I wanted torque off the line right? Well there is a problem is that the JRSC is not really that good of a supercharger and is very limited in power production and boost. I have seen many cars with a JRSC and I am not impressed. As a matter of fact I have raced one againsted my loly old D16Z hb. He beat me by only two tenths. His h/b ran a 14.7 and I ran a 14.9. No very impressive is it? I might reconsider about building a D16Z engine of they ever come out with a better supercharger (like Endyne's). Everyone seems to be turboing their cars these days. Its all about being different right? Dont get me wrong I might go turbo on another project in the future but right now I dont want to. My current project will never have a turbo on the H22 engine. I wont deal with the added weight that it will have in the front. I might get a wild hair up my a$$ and maybe put nitrous on it someday, but for now it will stay all motor. Its all about respect. all motor cars get more respect, and people just like to talk crap about imports especially Hondas.
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