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nonovurbizniz · 11-11-2003, 11:11 AM

I don't contradict myself... you have such a crappy understanding of engines and what makes one superior to another you don't understand what I'm trying to explain to you...

A b18a or b is INFERIOR to a d16z6 for MANY reasons... vtec being the least of which... as mentioned it has Pistons squirters... I'm gunna guess you have no idea what those are... they squirt oil DIRECTLY at the bottom of the pistons to cool them and prevent detonation... this makes the engine not only suitable for MUCH higher compression... but also MUCH more suitable for turbo or nitrous...

It also has a better rod/stroke ratio... allowing it to rev MUCH higher than the LS with MUCH less chance of a problem... that's why ls/vtec's blow so often... they were not designed to rev....

It has a SINGLE cam (oh yes that CAN infact be an advantage (not always... (just so you don't think I'm contradicting myself) which give it MUCH less rotating mass and top end weight... the only down side to it would be the extra weight of the extra lobes for vtec...

Tuning the b18a or b's exhaust cam would AT MOST give you 2-3 hp... the lack of extra rotating weight MORE than makes up for that... (incedentally it's this theory that bisi keeps taking advantage of by building sohc engines' instead of dohc) both in the engines' ability to rev higher as well as the less rotating resistance which robs power.

Given equal factors (like an itr/ctr (same technology incorporated into BOTH engines (in fact like mentioned the b16b has MORE technology and tweeaks to make the most power possible out of that motor)) .2 liters is a HUGE advantage...

at 4000 rpm for example the 1.6 is flowing:
160 liters/min.

at 4000 rpm the 1.8 would be flowing:
180 liters/min

(rpm*displacement/4 strokes per exhaust event=flow)

barring any difference between the two the 1.8 has a REDICULOUS advantage...

Your inability to grasp the most simple concept of engine building is pretty sad...

"there's NO replacement for displacement"

Sure that's a bit simplified because like honda proved with technology and good engine building you can get adiquit power out of a small block.. and a turbo will increase theoretical displacement.

but it's the simple truth...

I'm done with this conversation.

Wait I lied...

I'm a ricer???

You PAY someone do do a swap for you and I'm a ricer?????

Must be nice. Spending 5k to end up with what would have cost ANYONE with a clue under 3k... your car could be turboed ALL for something you could've found out with so much as 10mins of research into a jdm swap...

11-11-2003, 11:11 AM	#19
nonovurbizniz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ECUSA Age: 48 Posts: 2,693	I don't contradict myself... you have such a crappy understanding of engines and what makes one superior to another you don't understand what I'm trying to explain to you... A b18a or b is INFERIOR to a d16z6 for MANY reasons... vtec being the least of which... as mentioned it has Pistons squirters... I'm gunna guess you have no idea what those are... they squirt oil DIRECTLY at the bottom of the pistons to cool them and prevent detonation... this makes the engine not only suitable for MUCH higher compression... but also MUCH more suitable for turbo or nitrous... It also has a better rod/stroke ratio... allowing it to rev MUCH higher than the LS with MUCH less chance of a problem... that's why ls/vtec's blow so often... they were not designed to rev.... It has a SINGLE cam (oh yes that CAN infact be an advantage (not always... (just so you don't think I'm contradicting myself) which give it MUCH less rotating mass and top end weight... the only down side to it would be the extra weight of the extra lobes for vtec... Tuning the b18a or b's exhaust cam would AT MOST give you 2-3 hp... the lack of extra rotating weight MORE than makes up for that... (incedentally it's this theory that bisi keeps taking advantage of by building sohc engines' instead of dohc) both in the engines' ability to rev higher as well as the less rotating resistance which robs power. Given equal factors (like an itr/ctr (same technology incorporated into BOTH engines (in fact like mentioned the b16b has MORE technology and tweeaks to make the most power possible out of that motor)) .2 liters is a HUGE advantage... at 4000 rpm for example the 1.6 is flowing: 160 liters/min. at 4000 rpm the 1.8 would be flowing: 180 liters/min (rpm*displacement/4 strokes per exhaust event=flow) barring any difference between the two the 1.8 has a REDICULOUS advantage... Your inability to grasp the most simple concept of engine building is pretty sad... "there's NO replacement for displacement" Sure that's a bit simplified because like honda proved with technology and good engine building you can get adiquit power out of a small block.. and a turbo will increase theoretical displacement. but it's the simple truth... I'm done with this conversation. Wait I lied... I'm a ricer??? You PAY someone do do a swap for you and I'm a ricer????? Must be nice. Spending 5k to end up with what would have cost ANYONE with a clue under 3k... your car could be turboed ALL for something you could've found out with so much as 10mins of research into a jdm swap... __________________ I am an A$$hole... take anything I say to heart at YOUR OWN RISK...