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		 yeah word... 
 
and vr4craver... 
 
how do you NOT like talon tsi (vr4 on a different chassis) but like vr4's? 
 
it's essentially the SAME car... the talons just got a bad rep because WAY more people bought them... so some got BEATEN and poorly maintained... 
 
I have to say if those things are properly maintained they are SICK cars... it's just that most people don't know how to maintain a turbo awd car... you have to change ALL the oils pretty regularly... leave it running if you've been driving hard (or get a turbo timer) they take a LOT of abuse if they're maintained well.  
 
My buddy used to do some REALLY bad things to that car and it ran like a top till he sold it. and I believe the second owner got a lot out of it as well. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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