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Originally posted by JDMB16
wow dude, you really have no clue what you are talking about do you? Why won't you take the time and read my post and educate yourself with what I say ok? So, you must think that your little D16 puts out a bunch of tq eh? lol, this is too funny.
::sigh:: you are sitting here telling me that you can rebuild the engine to make it handle that much PSI...SHIT, it's going to cost about 2 grand or MORE for the parts and labor!! Why didn't you include the cost of the turbo in there, why not the Intercooler, why not the BOV etc?? Why didn't you include the cost of install of all that stuff?? Wait, I know why, it's because in the end, it will end up costing about 8 grand to push 15 PSI reliably!! You don't think you need a forged crank when you are pushing that much PSI?? Why is that, you must think the D series motors are pretty strong, which they aren't THAT strong, so tell me why you think that. You don't think you need new, stronger axles?? Why is that?? Go ahead man, do it on stock axles, when you keep breaking halfshaft after halfshaft everytime you push the car really hard at the track or on the street, you can come here and say "I'm sorry Sam, you were right, I was wrong, I apologize, next time I will listen to you and not post innacurrate information". You don't think you're going to need stickier tires?? Why do you think that?? You must not want to hook up AT ALL and run shitty ass times...is that what you would want to do?? You don't need a fuel rail either huh?? Why do you say that?? You must want to use the stock fuel rail, FPR and injectors and not produce an ample supply of fuel to the engine causing a severe case of detonation and blowing the motor up on the first run. Is that what you want to do?? Is that what you want this guy to do or something?? I mean, if people follow info like you're providing, then there's going to be a lot of blown motors and broken halfshafts here.
Did I say that they were SOOOO expensive?? Nope, I gave the average prices man, but I can tell you now that you're going to be spending money on the install, dyno time (to TUNE IT!!) and various other things...you act like you can just slap on a turbo and be done with it...well, you're in for a RUDE awakening bro, obviously you have 0 experience!! I'm not TRYING to be a dickhead, I just know what I'm talking about and you're wrong. Well, I'm off from work to go home in about 15
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Never said that the D16 puts out alot of torque now did I. It does as a matter of fact put out a LITTLE less than a B16 though, and with a 79mm bore will put out way more than a b16 does.
Oh MY GOD 2 whole grand(more like $2500) for a bullet proof motor!!! Thats soo much money!!! Mean while you can spend the same and have a shitty beat down B16. Whats the better engine, hmmm. Well its gotta be the B because thats what everyone says and it has piston squirters and everything right? As far as your stupid comment on axles and cranks, there are quite a few people i know of who run the stock axles and stock crank and make pretty damn good HP on the d engine.(maybe your confusing yourself with a H series swap where the axles have to be upgraded, not because of the power but because of the F'd up angle theyre at in a civic)
So lets just look at the damn #'s shall we, you like to throw them around so much lets see what they REALLY say.
B16 engine swap: $3000 , getting the beat down engine rebuilt to handle decent boost: another $3000, Fmax turbo kit(which is actually a bolt on kit that comes with extra injectors and a comp to run them, no need for a fuel rail or other crap) $3100.
D16 engine: free , Re build $2500, turbo kit: $3100 Beating some fool spouting off shit about B series this and B series that: Priceless.
And whats the weight difference between a B and D engine??? Close to 100lbs isnt it? So not only do you pay more you also throw the weight dist out of whack even more than what it was.
Now I left out shit that each engine is going to need like a clutch, LSD etc.
So you can't install a turbo kit all of a sudden, it just has to be done someone else???
AND Yes I do think the D series engine is pretty strong.
And so do the fine people at ZEX with their CRX:
http://www.zex.com/Community/Gallery/
Looks like they can run Low 11's possible high 10 sec 1/4mile times, with a STOCK crank.