[AzCivic]

Originally posted by JDMB16
how bout I spent 3k bud, and would've been less if I didn't pay my friend for letting me use his shop. How bout you check your replies before running of at the mouth with wrong infomation. You think you're going to get 250 hp out of a D series motor with 2 grand?? NOPE!! Sure, you can put a turbo on it and boost it at about 7-8 PSI for a daily driver and you will be putting out around 180 hp to the flywheel for around $2,250 for install and everything and no matter what anyone says, there are reliability issues with a turbo especially on an engine that was N/A in the first place. Believe me, you will end up spending about $2,800 in the end after all the tuning is done on the turbo and all the kinks finally get worked out. Not to mention you're going to end up spitting out another $800 or more on an intercooler also, then comes the BOV, then comes fuel management, dyno time etc. all the while I have my swap for less, putting out roughly a little less hp, staying N/A, not having reliability issues or tuning issues. Anyways, to get 250 hp out of a D series motor, you're gonna have to push at least 15 psi and to push that safely, you're going to have to buy a turbo, Intercooler, BOV, forged rods, forged and lower compression pistons, EGT gauge, forged crank, stronger clutch (MUCH stronger than stock), STICKY tires, aftermarket axles, FPR, fuel rail, dyno time, someone to install the turbo and tune it. Still think swaps are for suckers man??

PS, I'm rich, I drive a Civic, I like Civics...got a problem?

Woohoo you spent 3k$ and now got what 140hp-150hp to the wheels if your lucky?? And lets not even mention how much piddly torque that engine puts out. Now lets go back to what i said: For the price(actually cheaper) of a beat down swap from god knows where, you can have a TOTALLY rebuilt D engine(hey that includes half the shit you listed) that CAN HANDLE 30psi if need be, although 15 would be enough for most. AND NO YOU DONT NEED A NEW DAMN CRANK, OR AXLES, OR "STICKY" TIRES, OR A FUEL RAIL. so if your end plan is turbo then the engine doesnt really matter just that its strong enough for boost. And please dont make it sound like turbo kits are just soo expensive when you can get a complete(that means everything) kit from Fmax for like 3100$.