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Old 03-22-2003, 11:17 AM   #23
nonovurbizniz
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Ya following the fical public opinion is WAY better than doing what you believe....

In the mid 90's Clinton launched a cruise missle attack on a guy by the name of Osama bin Laden.... the first missle missed and hit an embacy or something like that...

The PUBLIC freaked out... "why are you firing missles at caves"... "that guy isn't REALLY a threat"....

Well guess what... if clinton had stuck to his guns like a GOOD president should... we would have NEVER KNOWN 9-11...

It is OUR responsability to elect the best person for the job. After that I'm sorry but your wrong the public has NO say whatsoever in the running of the country till 4 years later... that's why president's only are in office for 4 years... so if the public diagrees with him they can elect someone else...

If you think that the right to bare arms has ANYTHING to do with overtaking our OWN gov. your dumb.... sorry but that's the way it is.

Your only control over your gov. on a realtime basis is through your congress. Senators and Representitives HAVE to listen to there voting public.. they in turn impose those beliefs through law making and passing or not passing laws/bills.

If you tried to start an armed revolution against the president or his admistration or the Gov. in general YOU WOULD BE KILLED BY THE ARMY SO FAST YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TIME TO SAY JUST KIDDING.

Armed revolution IS NOT any part of the reason we have the right ot bare arms. Revolution from FORIEGN governments was. England was not our gov. that was our arguement.

And the reason militia's and the right to bare arms were started was because the ENGLISH army was on there way here to kick our ass' into line.

And just so you know... a president acting in whatever fassion is not a monarchy... He still needs congress' approval and givin enough public outcry he could be impeached and deposed (if there is an impeachable crime).

I'm sorry but our check and balance system isn't HALF as quick or direct as you think... presidents, armies, politicians get away with doing ALL SORTS of unconstitutional/illegal things. It take a LOT of time for the check and balances to catch up with ANYTHING.

And as far as that not being the kind of president you want... well that's your decission... but I'd take someone that you can predict. Someone who thinks one thing is a great idea until the public disagrees isn't exactly what you'd catagorize as a "leader" that's more of a follower.

If you look at the history of the country ALL the best presidents went against popular belief and got things DONE which shaped our world to what it is now... and yes some of it was/is irreprehensable however far more of it ENSURED that we are all living in a FREE country.

Saddam is F'ing Clownshoes... he needs to be gone... he's a joke and worse than that he is a sick F*ck who has a STRANGLE hold on his own people.

People who don't understand what's going on love to sit there on there pedistal of piety while people suffer under saddam because of OUR inaction...

And as far as this being a war for oil... PLEASE... If all of a sudden america was taking all of iraqs oil (or even some of it) without paying out the nose EVERYONE WOULD KNOW INSTANTLY.... It just wouldn't be stood for.... that's pure ignorance...

My sister is a BIGTIME protestor... she goes all around the world protesting this and that... the problem is when I ask her (or any other person) to explain her problems with whatever she's protesting she yammers off all the typical bullcrap then you ask her what she or any of the groups she belongs to thinks should be done instead... they have NO ideas...

I say sh*t or get of the pot if your intension is just to STOP things and not offer an alternative then shut up.

I'd go so far as to say 90% of the people who disagree with this war have NO understanding about what it's REALLY about and are just bandwagoneer's.

I'm the first to question ANYTHING my gov. does.... I am the first to UTTERLY DECIMATE BUSH'S CHARACTOR.. he's a dick a moron and an embarrasment... HOWEVER... this is what needs to be done. maybe not for the reason's he's saying.. but it needs to be done... Saddam is a danger to the world much less his own people.

There is NO defending Saddam Hussein.

I said the day bush got elected "we're going to war with Iraq one way or the other"... and when it started to happen I was VERY against it.... then I thought about it....

Bush is offering himself up as a scapegoat... NO ONE will blame america they'll blame bush... good. This is something that needs to be done.

Saddam has been spitting in our face since the gulf war... SHOOTING AT OUR JETS that patrol the no fly zone... I don't know about you but that's an act of war to me... continuing on the path toward nuclear weapons.. furthering his biological and chemical programs and TORTURING HIS POPULATION.

**** him he's got to go... If you want a gov to revolt against try the Iraqi one. ours isn't doing ALL that bad. (well ok it is but that's just an election away)
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