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How do the scientists date the scrolls and other biblical writings? I don't know the answer, but I'd like to know the answer. But chances are the scientists use the same methods to date those kinds of things as they use to date things that go against your ideology.



Does it say that they can change to the climate? Or does it just say they can change? I haven't read enough of the Bible to know, but my guess is that it doesn't specifically lay out what changes can and can't occur. Evolution is simply the slow process of change when you really get down to it. Creatures gradually turning into other creatures is no more than very small adaptations. One creature moves closer and closer to a cold environment and develops an ability to withstand cold while its relatives stayed in a warm environment. Now we've got 2 uniquely identifiable creatures that came from the same roots.

Look at the evolution (or for your sake "change") of people over time by simply comparing the height of European people during the Middle Ages to the height of European people now. Surely you would argue they're all the same creatures, however heights are very different. Walk into an old castle or building in England and chances are you'll bonk your head.

Here's a question for the Creationists. Did God create all the different types of people we have on the Earth today? Was there an Adam and Eve from China, a set from sub-saharan Africa, a set from Europe, and a set from North America (referring to NA Indians)? Or would you care to tell me just how so many different types of peoples have come into existence?

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As a side note, I would like to make it known that I do not disbelieve in a higher being. There is very much in this world that I, and science, have a hard time explaining. I believe in the possibility of a universal truth, but I also believe we will never know IF it exists or WHAT it is if it exists. I don't exactly believe in a god, but I don't deny the possibility of the existence of one. I do not believe in any religion. I do not see why it is so difficult for creationism and evolutionism to both be true. I have a hard time believing in Divine Intervention. Why could not a higher being assemble or create a set of building blocks with the ability to unfold to what we have today? Much like a scientist places things in a petri dish why couldn't a god do the same? I don't claim to have all the answers, the answers I believe in are merely the best answers I have come up with to date. If you can convince me beyond the shadow of a doubt, using rational logic and reasoning with irrefuttable proof or a convincing enough argument, then I will adopt your beliefs as my own. However claiming things such as the New Testament is entirely provable and it's impossible to prove it false is merely a naive statement. Again, it only takes ONE case to prove something false and a TOTAL SOLUTION to prove it true. You must offer me proof until I die that the entire New Testament is provable, I must only offer you one shred of evidence to the contrary to prove you wrong.

I also have a hard time believing that a god who loves his children would damn them to Hell before they ever got a chance to learn of Him. It is my understanding that we are all born sinners, but God is a loving Father by giving us free will to choose to accept or deny His existence, acceptance giving you access to Heaven, denial giving you eternal damnation to Hell. So what of the child who dies during delivery? Is that child damned to Hell as a sinner who never accepted its Father? What of the people in remote areas of the globe who have never been exposed to Christianity? Are they all damned to Hell for not accepting Jesus as their Savior and are damned to Hell with the child who never had a chance? These are all quesitons I asked of my aforementioned Christian friend back in the day....his answer was that they'd go to Hell but God is still a loving Father. I don't know about you, but I have a really really really hard time accepting that as an answer of any moral type from a perfect and loving God. That's evil if you ask me. So what's your answer to the questions?

One problem that I have with many religious people is that they merely accept the religion of their parents without ever questioning their beliefs, yet they are all dead set on being correct. How can you ever know you are correct if you don't ever question the accuracy of your knowledge? How do you know that the Buddhists aren't the correct ones, or Muslims aren't correct? If you've never studied their ideology and "truths" then how can you know yours are right and theirs are wrong. It is a fundamental flaw in the reasoning of religious people that defies my understanding. If you cannot accept the possibility that you are wrong then you are merely a lemming being herded with the masses and are not a thinker, you do not know if you are right, you merely assume the lead lemming knows what's best for you and you will follow him to your grave.

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