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sc0rch 05-22-2003 11:42 AM

95 civic vs 01 celica
 
I dont know if it was GT or what cause i didnt get behind him....but there was no factory body kit....just some loud APC muffler and tons of neons sittin on some ghetto bling bling rims.......

anyway.....i'm crusing the regular route in another town since its bigger than mine....while going through the walmart,krogers(and a million little sotres) lot i see this celica lighting up the whole lot.I said to my girlfriend "wathc hes gonna rev like a fool" and what do you know after he stares at me and revs i flip him off and it's on....Not sure why but he takes off like a fool flying through the lot so i follow him ....get kinda behind him but there is 2 cars between me and him.....so i cheat while hes at the light i take this little illegal turn and go the past him on the side thats green (i cant explain...same light but one side side is red going the same way as another side that is green) well i cruse at about 5 mph and wait for it to turn.....and here comes the glowing celica of doomso i let hime get beside me still rolling at 10mph in 1st gear(automatic).....just so happens that he has an automatic too.....we stop at the light side by side.....while hes screaming "****in stupid honda piece of shit.That thins is too slow to catch me" WRONG light is green my tires squeak and he doesnt get the jump and i pull away laughing....now to my suprise he didnt come right up on me(i thought those cars were faster than mine)..i stayed about half a length ahead of him to the next light and i'm shifting the little auto like its a stick...so we stop at the next light.....and he is still screaming out the window......so this time i decide to turn off the AC and anything power except the radio wich i decide to turn up all the way slamming Poison the well and look at hime and flip him off again.....this time the light goes green and my tires squeak again......and we both jump at about the same time......and some how.....musta got a gust of wind or something........he cant keep beside me.....i pulled right away from him......hes back there going all hell trying to keep up.....2nd gear i'm still pulling away and in 3rd i'm already seeing him in the rearview.......well we come to the next light and i stop and laught my ass of at hime and said.....maybe next time you should do more driving than talkin shit and you might not get beat on by a piece of shit honda....well him and all 4 of his boys wanted to fight and i decided that 4 on 1(not gonna let my girl fight them althought shed prolly whoop um all...102lbs of holy terror)isnt a good idea so i said....eh...maybe when your by yourself and wanna talk shit.......and he flys down a side road and i go home............

So i have no idea how i won.....i can only assume its cause he had 4 people in the car and i had 2 and he didnt shift his auto like i do but i really dont know......i assume those cars are faster than mine but lastnight.....his wasnt......maybe i'll go look for him once i do what i wanna do or atleast go modding just a little......

Honda_Killa 05-22-2003 11:49 AM

haha stupid toyota those new celicas are kind of slow, well hella slow but oh well. good kill bro:yes:

Twilight02ZX3 05-22-2003 01:57 PM

They are suprisingly slow. One of my friends has one and wanted to race me. I beat him by about 2 cars. He has a GT

sc0rch 05-23-2003 12:41 AM

ok then i'm not as suprised.....cause i thought those cars were quicker than my poor ol stock sohc vtec......i still say its cause the kid was just a punk that cant drive.....but i'll take it anyway i can get it......

Racing Rice 05-23-2003 09:46 AM

It sounds like it was a GT. Plus with 4 people in the car, he didnt stand much of a chance. The GTSs are a little faster.

CD5Passion 05-23-2003 11:57 AM

they really made those Celicas look 10x's faster than they are, but good kill anyways

94 civic jdmD15b 05-23-2003 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Honda_Killa
haha stupid toyota those new celicas are kind of slow, well hella slow but oh well. good kill bro:yes:



So a high 14. to low 15 1/4, is hella slow. Thats what a celi GTS runs stock. When I race them in my eclipse it's a drivers race

intense101 03-18-2004 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Honda_Killa
haha stupid toyota those new celicas are kind of slow, well hella slow but oh well. good kill bro:yes:
Did i just witness someone say the new celica was slow..... I dont know about that one buddy.... My friend has a celica gts 2001 and it rips the hell out of me....At the track he did a 14.72 against a 350z who did a 14.9.... So i wouldnt clown unless you had some serious honda power.
Doesnt even look slow........

intense101 03-18-2004 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Racing Rice
It sounds like it was a GT. Plus with 4 people in the car, he didnt stand much of a chance. The GTSs are a little faster.

Alot faster guy....40 horsepower difference

IALuder 03-18-2004 11:25 PM

you must have raced a GT with a lot of weight. i know GT-S can do some serious speeds.

intense101 03-18-2004 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by SFKing
you must have raced a GT with a lot of weight. i know GT-S can do some serious speeds.


^werd^

brianhatchie 03-24-2004 05:52 PM

bleah, i dont even see automatics as racers. ah well, some celicas are cool... some.

i've never raced one before, but it'd probably beat me bad.
whats the total BHP for the GT-S ?

intense101 03-24-2004 05:59 PM

180

IALuder 03-24-2004 10:19 PM

i thought it was 170 same as GS-R tegs.

intense101 03-26-2004 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by SFKing
i thought it was 170 same as GS-R tegs.

Nu uh, they are 180 horses.

Honda_Killa 03-27-2004 10:00 AM

I've got a friend with a gts and it is slow until it gets to about 60. Valve timing doesn't kick in fast enough. Plus the celicas have sucky transmisions. :yes:

intense101 03-27-2004 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Honda_Killa
I've got a friend with a gts and it is slow until it gets to about 60. Valve timing doesn't kick in fast enough. Plus the celicas have sucky transmisions. :yes:
:nono: :no:

intense101 07-14-2004 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Honda_Killa
I've got a friend with a gts and it is slow until it gets to about 60. Valve timing doesn't kick in fast enough. Plus the celicas have sucky transmisions. :yes:

Actually after 6000 Rpm they are fast ....first gears allright but once ur out of it ur gone...

VR4_Craver 07-14-2004 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by 94 civic jdmD15b
So a high 14. to low 15 1/4, is hella slow. Thats what a celi GTS runs stock. When I race them in my eclipse it's a drivers race


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you must have raced a GT with a lot of weight. i know GT-S can do some serious speeds.


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Did i just witness someone say the new celica was slow..... I dont know about that one buddy.... My friend has a celica gts 2001 and it rips the hell out of me....At the track he did a 14.72 against a 350z who did a 14.9.... So i wouldnt clown unless you had some serious honda power.


First, it wasnt a GT-S he raced. If you wuold have read more than just the title you would have seen this. The new celica's a slow. the gt( which he happened to race) has 140.....it runs like 17's I have raced a gts and they are dirt. there just like neons: yuo put an exhaut at wing and think there fast...:zombie:

CD5Passion 07-14-2004 01:46 PM

does anybody realize that this thread was started in may 2003?.....

Violent Apathy 07-14-2004 04:05 PM

Poison the Well still kicks ass though. :yes:

intense101 07-14-2004 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
First, it wasnt a GT-S he raced. If you wuold have read more than just the title you would have seen this. The new celica's a slow. the gt( which he happened to race) has 140.....it runs like 17's I have raced a gts and they are dirt. there just like neons: yuo put an exhaut at wing and think there fast...:zombie:
First of all... I can really give a flying Fu**.....I was just making a statement...What the hell u running that u say the celicas gts is slow....:moon: :doh: So think about what the hell's goin on before u start posting comments......

intense101 07-14-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by TheBaconKing
Poison the Well still kicks ass though. :yes:
:irked:

VR4_Craver 07-14-2004 09:01 PM

Yea...I guess driving a hx anything would seem fast with your whopping 117 hp....Yes I have killed 3 gt-s's around town. What ever the reason I did it to 3 different ones toting my 12's and girl

intense101 07-14-2004 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
Yea...I guess driving a hx anything would seem fast with your whopping 117 hp....Yes I have killed 3 gt-s's around town. What ever the reason I did it to 3 different ones toting my 12's and girl
"I guess driving a hx anything would seem fast" shut up man...:flick: :doh:..I just posted a damn comment and you here talking your Sh**....

intense101 07-14-2004 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
Yea...I guess driving a hx anything would seem fast with your whopping 117 hp....Yes I have killed 3 gt-s's around town. What ever the reason I did it to 3 different ones toting my 12's and girl
You think ur all fast or what...that hx aint all i got...u can run my TSi though....

Matrix 07-15-2004 12:50 AM

Okay, then race, you two.
Either way, quit bitchin' and get on with the discussion if you have anything valuable to add...

intense101 07-15-2004 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
Yea...I guess driving a hx anything would seem fast with your whopping 117 hp....Yes I have killed 3 gt-s's around town. What ever the reason I did it to 3 different ones toting my 12's and girl
when u can hit 11.87 then u can talk.....

intense101 07-15-2004 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by Matrix
Okay, then race, you two.
Either way, quit bitchin' and get on with the discussion if you have anything valuable to add...

I believe this is nunya buisness...

VR4_Craver 07-15-2004 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by intense101
I believe this is nunya buisness...


*starts to chant* ban ban ban ban!

No, I never said that I am running better than 11's. I was stating that with 107 hp you would have trouble with even neons....Tsi's dont bother me either I really dont care.

CD5Passion 07-15-2004 05:52 PM

I like Poison the Well :cool:

intense101 07-15-2004 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
*starts to chant* ban ban ban ban!

No, I never said that I am running better than 11's. I was stating that with 107 hp you would have trouble with even neons....Tsi's dont bother me either I really dont care.

Well you sure were talkin like it...and u said 117 not 107...and im putting out way more than 117 bro...what u mean Tsi's dont bother you...u probably havent raced one worth racing....

intense101 07-15-2004 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Shardsofxapril
I like Poison the Well :cool:
:irked:

VR4_Craver 07-16-2004 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by intense101
Well you sure were talkin like it...and u said 117 not 107...and im putting out way more than 117 bro...what u mean Tsi's dont bother you...u probably havent raced one worth racing....


107 or 117 not really much of a difference.....Yes I have raced a few tsi's granted none of them the awd but still tsi's ;) The 5sp isnt that much of a "speed demon" by itself. But with some money you could get it moving....of course thats just like any car

intense101 07-16-2004 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
107 or 117 not really much of a difference.....Yes I have raced a few tsi's granted none of them the awd but still tsi's ;) The 5sp isnt that much of a "speed demon" by itself. But with some money you could get it moving....of course thats just like any car
What do u do quater mile...

CD5Passion 07-16-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by intense101
:irked:


:D :D :D

Violent Apathy 07-16-2004 04:40 PM

Guess he doesn't like our taste in music, Shards. :no:

CD5Passion 07-16-2004 06:39 PM

guess not....thats ok tho cause we both know that PTW owns the hardcore scene, along with Refused

intense101 07-16-2004 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by TheBaconKing
Guess he doesn't like our taste in music, Shards. :no:
Naw, im not sayin i dont like ya'lls music just never heard of 'em

VR4_Craver 07-16-2004 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by intense101
What do u do quater mile...


The best I have ever ran is a 15.4 before I got the new tires. The tires I ran that one was the stock tires with like maybe 50% tread and that is being gracious on the estimate.

intense101 09-05-2004 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
The best I have ever ran is a 15.4 before I got the new tires. The tires I ran that one was the stock tires with like maybe 50% tread and that is being gracious on the estimate.
Alright your saying you did 15.4, while the celica my friend has done a 15.36 stock...Ran again with some performance and hit a 14.6...He also has a 2003 tiburon GT which hit a 15.6 stock..Added performance headers, straight pipe , Cat back exhaust system, and a Cold air intake and suprisingly hit a 14.99..Pretty crazy but i think he'll rock your Si...

GT40FIED 09-05-2004 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by intense101
I believe this is nunya buisness...


Whoa dude...don't talk to mods like that. It's his job to keep up the forum, so yeah...it's his business.

As for all of this BS in general...yeah...Celicas are slow. I don't care what model or trim level it is. And what's with all of this "what's yer car run dawg?". Who cares? I'd gladly put my car up against a Talon anyday. You think a high 11 is hot shit? I'll invite you down to watch me pull off low 10s/super high 9s. Does any of it really matter? No...so knock it off.

VR4_Craver 09-05-2004 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by intense101
Alright your saying you did 15.4, while the celica my friend has done a 15.36 stock...Ran again with some performance and hit a 14.6...He also has a 2003 tiburon GT which hit a 15.6 stock..Added performance headers, straight pipe , Cat back exhaust system, and a Cold air intake and suprisingly hit a 14.99..Pretty crazy but i think he'll rock your Si...


Ok, I will have fun with this one.....That car ran a 15.36.....4/100 of a second. New tires on the car I guarantee I will better that. That stupid ass tiburon is slow even with the v6. That car has .3 liter on mine....yet my car has more hp. Weird huh? Ever think that there is a reason that the car can sell for 14k brand new? And also on that with that 14.99 I know of at least 4 people that with the same car as mine has hit 14.8's stock..... here you go.

www.ephatch.com

Hell, with just the V2 and Megan race headers pepole are getting low 14's. Celicas are shit, alwasy have and always will be till they realize that they are shit and stop making them. Oh and another guy with hondata and nothing else runs a 14.4....gee must be a coincedence

cashizslick 09-05-2004 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Honda_Killa
haha stupid toyota those new celicas are kind of slow, well hella slow but oh well. good kill bro:yes:



correct me if im wrong, but the motor in the GT makes like 170hp and is a 1.8 just like my car/gsr's . . . . how is that slow?

VR4_Craver 09-05-2004 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by cashizslick
correct me if im wrong, but the motor in the GT makes like 170hp and is a 1.8 just like my car/gsr's . . . . how is that slow?


you are wrong.... That 170 is in the gt-s(top of the line). And they are still slow:yes:

GT40FIED 09-05-2004 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by cashizslick
correct me if im wrong, but the motor in the GT makes like 170hp and is a 1.8 just like my car/gsr's . . . . how is that slow?


i hate to be a wet blanket, but power does not equal fast. Especially when the levels are so close. There's other factors going into that like weight, powerband, gear ratios, suspensions design, etc. Simply because 2 cars make the same power doesn't mean they'll run anything like each other.

rushb18 09-06-2004 03:45 PM

fuck off cashizslick and v8dick smoker

cashizslick 09-06-2004 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by VR4_Craver
you are wrong.... That 170 is in the gt-s(top of the line). And they are still slow:yes:


Actually you are wrong . . it has 180 horse.

I did a little reaserch and the Celica GTS is superior to the SI in almost every area except price.


Link 1
Curb Weight of GTS = 2500lbs for manual transmission. Almost as much as my car . . . .

6spd Manual Tranny, 180hp/130lbs . . .

Clicky

Link 2
Curb Weight of SI = 2782lbs

5spd manual tranny, 160hp/132lbs . . .
Clicky

Now, this TRUE information i have just posted shows that the Celica GTS has 180 horsepower, a 6speed transmission, and weighs LESS THAN a 04 Civic SI.

Now, if this car WEIGHS less than your car, Has MORE POWER than your car, and has SHORTER GEARING than your car, how is it slow??????

BTW, it may also entertain you to realize that the GTS gets better gas milage than your car does . . . .oh, and it looks better.

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Originally posted by GT40FIED
i hate to be a wet blanket, but power does not equal fast. Especially when the levels are so close. There's other factors going into that like weight, powerband, gear ratios, suspensions design, etc. Simply because 2 cars make the same power doesn't mean they'll run anything like each other.


GT, i think the info from the manufacturers website suggests the GTS will outperform the SI and be about even with the RSX . . . .

rushb18 09-06-2004 05:24 PM

Hey man i was close enough i knew it was some where around there but actually i dont care there slow.....And there a chicks car..and i dont care if i was wrong i was close enough 5 hp isnt going to slow them down anymore than they already are lol....Not being a ass about this just saying......

VR4_Craver 09-06-2004 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by cashizslick
Actually you are wrong . . it has 180 horse.

I did a little reaserch and the Celica GTS is superior to the SI in almost every area except price.


Link 1
Curb Weight of GTS = 2500lbs for manual transmission. Almost as much as my car . . . .

6spd Manual Tranny, 180hp/130lbs . . .

Clicky

Link 2
Curb Weight of SI = 2782lbs

5spd manual tranny, 160hp/132lbs . . .
Clicky

Now, this TRUE information i have just posted shows that the Celica GTS has 180 horsepower, a 6speed transmission, and weighs LESS THAN a 04 Civic SI.

Now, if this car WEIGHS less than your car, Has MORE POWER than your car, and has SHORTER GEARING than your car, how is it slow??????

BTW, it may also entertain you to realize that the GTS gets better gas milage than your car does . . . .oh, and it looks better.



Well, Given that this car is superior to my car then one could also conclude that its also superior to yours, gets better gas mileage, and doesnt look like a an almost 11 year old Civic EX. Based on numbers you can make any number of assumptions you want. Number dont prove shit. When you have personally raced and beat more than one then you can say that yes your car is faster than said car. Seeing as how I have done this (4 times now) I can say without a doubt in my mind that yes these cars are slower than mine regardless of what the bullshit from the manufacturer states.

Also, after looking at your "research" you did I noticed that you failed to even quote any 0-60 times an 1/4 times. Based on the numbers yea it looks superior but how do you explain my turning around and raping the IS300 that has almost 60 more hp than me?


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