I think its funny that its the non-lude owners jumping all over the honda tech. Guys honestly, common.

Hell when I really got on it in the RL the smoke was dark, guess what, thats because its pumping as much fuel as possible into the motor and it probably doesn't burn as nicely as under lesser loads.

Have it checked out and then realize this happens.

Can we all say it together? "ehhh it's a honda!"

i think what i'm going to do is wait until winter here (my insurance expires in october anyways) and i'll park the car and me and my mechanic friend from work will take the engine apart. I want to get the head port & polished anyways and do some other work. Right now i'm REALLY contemplating turbo:yes:

just remember high compression motors dont like turbo's so much.

Maybe you could reflash the computer to lean out the fuel curve at WOT. If you're running rich enough to be smoking out the exhaust then you're running rich enough to hurt performance.

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exactly, he could get a vafc and get on a dyno w/ a wideband.

you didnt have a clue what his car was doing, yet you tell him that its ok.
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vafc didnt fix mine.

so you're saying a vafc isnt capable of taking out fuel?

no, im saying it didnt fix my smoke at WOT "problem"

then i guess that smoke is not from being too rich then, if you leaned out the mix and are still getting smoke.

arent H22's known for having piston rings go bad?

If the black smoke looks powdery... then it's fuel... if it's bluish and looks like "smoke" then it's oil burning...

DO NOT have a american car mechanic do a rebuild on a honda engine... no matter how good of a mechanic he is he's NOT the guy you want working on your honda engine.. it's an ENTIRELY different world..

Also if the guy is telling you to "rebuild" your engine because there MAY be a fuel injector issue then he's retarded... dirty fuel injectors can be replaced or cleaned... that's certainly not rebuilding your engine...

I've only really seen automatic honda's blow black powdery smoke... the manuals usually only blow smoke when it either has no cat or is on it's way out (rings or valve seals generally).

But I'm a civic guy... so I'm not too versed...

If it's powdery I wouldn't worry period... running rich isn't that bad unless it's CRONIC.

Sometimes car companies do it for WOT just to keep the temperatures down and ensure there's no detonation.