how about you make something that'll hold the belt a little closer, actually there's probably companies out there that make what you need, hell the government will probably pay for it.

i've never heard of a seat belt killing someone in an accident they would have survived in without it, and if the accident is bad enough that the seat belt f'd them up they better be twice as glad they had that shit on.

I'd have to admit to occasionally not wearing by seatbelt but usually it was driving from where I was parked to a dumpster and tossing out the trash (was a janitor at one time), or driving extremely short distances (ie moving my car 5-10 feet, hit the end of my block on my way home), but for the most part I put it on. Im not implying either way is right or wrong but I think its kinda dumb not too. To me its not worth my time or $ to get pulled over and givin a dumb ticket for not having one on especially if Im already or close to being late somewhere and I myself feel a little safer having it on especially since I have hit the windshield and dashboard in a 53 Ford from a 2 mph quick stop (the driver didn't see someone coming at first) as well as the door coming open on it own on the same vehicle at least twice

You can argue about this shit as long as you want.. but ultimately it is YOUR choice.. and YOUR choice cost you $50 and a trip to jail.

I'm sorry Steve. I did not mean to offend anyone in the comment I made. After reading this thread, it was just something I needed to get out. Like V8killimports said, it is ultimately ones choice to wear it, but I feel no sympathy towards anyone who has the nerve to bitch about it when they get a ticket and have to pay a fine.

indeed, it is your choice. I choose to save myself 50 bucks and just wear a contraption that's built for my protection. I just don't see the point of driving without one on. Like most others have sadi, it's not worth my time, money, or my life. But to those who don't want to wear a seatbelt, I'm not stopping you. it's your choice.

A lot, if not most, of the cars in japan dont have airbags, because everyone wears their seatbelts there.
They also sometimes dont put actual bumpers on the fronts of the cars.

So....removing your airbag (and getting a fun ek dash tray :) ) and bumper makes you jdm y0. But then you'd have to wear your seat belt. You wanna be jdm dont you gt?

Oh Pdiggs...more than anything in the world! Oh...wait...no. A JDM Mustang would necessitate suicide.

no doubt
They dont even ship them over there, do they?

ironically I didn't read this thread when it was first started....but when you're really bored and not tired...you do crazy things.

After reading through almost all of the posts I have this to say....I wear my seatbelt even if i'm just driving across a parking lot. It's force of habit for me to do so. I get in the car and the first thing I do other than start my car, is put my seatbelt on. If I'm driving my passengers all have theirs on....but if we get in their car and they don't wear seatbelts, then that is their decision, not mine. I'm also not going to judge someone and tell them that they're a fool for not wearing one. I think it's been very well established that wearing your seatbelt is a personal choice that one has to make on their own. There are statistics that will prove what ever point you're trying to make....that's why debates are so much fun. But i'm also not going to have sympathy for the person that gets pulled over and fined for not having their seatbelt on. That's what your personal choice brings to you....sorry about your luck.

I do find it rather stupid though that states have a no helmet law, but you must wear a seatbelt. I still haven't figured that one out yet:rolleyes:

I haven't read everything... but...

Seatbelts do infact save lives... it's one in a million that not having it saves your life... And to point out how crappy that logic is... Being COMPLETELY plastered drunk in an accident ups you survivablity DRASTICALLY... there are lots of ways... but that doesn't make driving around drunk as all hell a good idea.

If that story posted up here about the ONE girl who survived that accident in a honda with 3 other passengers all dying instantly... she was the ONLY one with a seatbelt on...

I didn't wear one for the longest time... but I ALWAYS do now...

As for the helmet comment on page 1... There ARE helmet laws and bikers DO get pulled over constantly for it. It depends on state law and area's commitment to enforcing it... much like the seatbelt thing.

They're doing if for your own good whether you like it or not... that is kinda anti-american IMO but... no one else wants to watch you die in an accident... not the other people envolved (if any) nor the cops/FD/paramedics cleaning up afterwards... it's a stressful enough job without cleaning up dead people who would've been fine if they just buckled up.

Jersey has helmet laws. Prolly a good thing ;)