Corvette

[JaY D. Em]

Yo, not a kill but definitely a good race...

I was on the highway 2 nights ago talkin' to my girl on the cell while i was goin' home. All of a sudden a fat mexican pulls up in a newer model vette and downshifts... I was like, "Yo, let me call you when i get home..." :yes:. I continued to even up with that fool (he already stopped going). I ****ed with him and ****ed with him and he wouldn't go... I finally gave up and went on driving regular. Then this azzhole decides he's gonna take off now. So he dropped it in 3rd (i imagine) and i was like, "Oh shiet, he's going!" :eek: So i dropped it in 3rd. Of course he got the jump because he was in his power band earlier but as soon as i shifted to 4th he wasn't advancing anymore and we were at it till about 140. After that he exited. I wanted to go with him again. I'm sure if we would have went at the same time it would've been a much closer race 'cause he was only up by about a car length and a half and he took off first. ****in' guy! I'll meet up with another one soon, hopefully!

[ChrisCantSkate]

prelude motor in a hatch = dealy combo. good race man! i know the power of the h22, and ive herd the bolt in low 13's stock engine, and you have some shit done, you godda be low 13's to high 12's.

[ebpda9]

nice race. i like your name ;) ;) ;)

[94_AcCoRd_EX]

Nice kill... H22 in a hatch... mmmm :cool:

[JaY D. Em]

Yo thanks ya'll! I'm hoping to meet up with another one soon. I know it'll be a really good race if we both drop at the same time! Other than that, modified trans-ams and z28's are pretty close. I know most vette's pull like modified trans-ams and 28's. Eh, oh well, i'll meet up with one soon... I haven't got to run at the track. I'm hoping to go tonight. I've had it swapped in for about 2 months but i've been really busy lately. I'm sure i'll be able to hit a good time. Some EK civic's i've seen online have run 13.30's-13.40's on slicks with the same sort've setup w/ bolt ons. My car's lighter so i'm looking for a mid 13 on streets. The only thing is i need to find a way to get the car to stop spinnin' in 2nd gear!!! It might be a li'l different at the track...

As for other kills...
Dead even with a modded trans-am and z28...
Pulled a stock trans-am...
The new mustangs are a joke!
Celica gts' were fun
The look on a kid with a brand new prelude (modified) was funny...
Any other import was really easy...
I wanna spank a type r to see what they look like when i pass 'em...
:yes:

[Incubus]

Hehe.....nice sorta kill man! I bet you would have had him if you were to both drop the gun at the same time!

Nice engine swap......i thought of doing that in my Teg, prelude engines are soooo silky smooth.

keep us updated on your times and what not! I'm definitely interested in hearing how you do at the track!

[FeelMyRide]

A prelude engine in a hatch *sigh* :)
I think had he gone the first few times you ****ed with him, you would have beat him.
He must have be a wittle scawed :D

[ChrisCantSkate]

well, it wouldnt have been a KILL, you probobly would have won if you hammered it at the same time, but lt-1's are no joking matter. also corvettes shine in the upper mph, but it will still be good either way. not many of us can talk about competing with a new vette

[toykilla]

New Vette? Z06 or not? Theres a big difference and the non-Z06's are pretty slow compared to a Z06.

[toykilla]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
Some EK civic's i've seen online have run 13.30's-13.40's on slicks with the same sort've setup w/ bolt ons. My car's lighter so i'm looking for a mid 13 on streets.

=] Z06 would eat you alive with those times. =] I believe you killing a non-Z06 though. Nice kill.

[JaY D. Em]

Welp, looks like it wasn't a z06 huh?;)

Aight ya'll, i went to the track last night!!!!
It was my first time with the car at the track...
i didn't have all the time in the world but my times go as follows...

My times go as follows...
(2nd run)
Reaction time: .4779 (yes i red lighted!)
60 ft: 2.1690
330 ft: 5.5658
1/8 mile et: 8.9363
1/8 mile mph: 80.05
1000 ft et: 11.5983
1/4 mile et: 13.8643
1/4 mile mph: 99.71
(1st run)
Reaction time: .5706
60 ft: 2.2283
330 ft: 5.9493
1/8 mile et: 9.0297
1/8 mile mph: 79.81
1000 ft et: 11.7011
1/4 mile et: 13.9736
1/4 mile mph: 99.55

And remember that's on street tires... Didn't take anything out of my car... I know i could've gotten that 13.7 if i'da gotten one more run (launching issues! but the times were gettin' lower by the run) But like i said, i had to be somewhere! But all in all, me and the shop were happy with the car, being as the only other civilude down here was hittin' 41.1's at 97 mph... I don't think he knew how to drive. It was the same guy that had a rx-7 twin turbo and was hittin' mid 14's to sometimes 15's! But anyway, my mile per hour was higher! I wanted that triple digit mph really bad! Next time we're gonna advance the timing a little bit... I definitely need a clutch!

Look at the power of the prelude motor! I was hittin' 2.1's and 2.2 60ft's on some nasty ass civic EX stocks!!! That's low end power for you! Definitely worth the money!

[ChrisCantSkate]

wow, i needed that info actualy, im trying to talk a freind into a 97 ex coupe h22 swap.

[gixer]

with times like that....a vette should've taken u...i'll just assume the mexican couldn't race.

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by gixer
with times like that....a vette should've taken u...i'll just assume the mexican couldn't race.

With times like that??? I think you're forgetting that civic's are front wheel drive? Corvette's are real wheel drive meaning they can get off the line faster, meaning they get better 1/4 mile times than a front wheel drive car. 1/4 mile times have zip, zero, nada to do with highway racing. How can u assume my car can't hang with one on the highway... Oh yeah i forgot, you drive my car and had numerous rides in it. My bad...:pukey

Don't be so close minded!

[Wicked_Motorcar]

No offense man but even a stock ls1 f-body could take you. When you take on a car that can run high 12s, low 13s stock, you better have more to bring than an engine from another honda.

[JaY D. Em]

F-Bodies? Please... I don't think you've ever been in a car with this swap... But if you say so, i guess. :rolleyes: I don't expect everyone to believe me... Why do you think i made a poll for it? There's always gonna be someone out there that doubts imports... Even people with imports! But it's coo. I respect your opinion, but i've never seen a stock ls1 run high 12's low 13's. I live in San Antonio, TX... You could throw a rock and hit a trans-am or camero! Next thing you know, someone's gonna tell me a stock mustang can pull me!:D Well, maybe not...

[Wicked_Motorcar]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
F-Bodies? Please... I don't think you've ever been in a car with this swap... But if you say so, i guess. :rolleyes: I don't expect everyone to believe me... Why do you think i made a poll for it? There's always gonna be someone out there that doubts imports... Even people with imports! But it's coo. I respect your opinion, but i've never seen a stock ls1 run high 12's low 13's. I live in San Antonio, TX... You could throw a rock and hit a trans-am or camero! Next thing you know, someone's gonna tell me a stock mustang can pull me!:D Well, maybe not...

No disrespect from me either... but a stock ls1 powered f-body can and do run low 13s and high 12s. I've seen it been done and even Mustangs and Fast Fords got a 2002 SS into the 12s stock. I can only go by the numbers the kid posted and it just isn't enough to take on even stock vettes. I know this is a forum and it's easy to not face reality but some people need to take a step back and look around at what's going on.

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em


With times like that??? I think you're forgetting that civic's are front wheel drive? Corvette's are real wheel drive meaning they can get off the line faster, meaning they get better 1/4 mile times than a front wheel drive car. 1/4 mile times have zip, zero, nada to do with highway racing. How can u assume my car can't hang with one on the highway... Oh yeah i forgot, you drive my car and had numerous rides in it. My bad...:pukey

Don't be so close minded!



lol...i don't doubt that u beat him...but you're wrong when u say 1/4 mile times have nothing to do with highway racing....a 1/4 mile race isn't just about off the line performance..that would be 1/8mile times.... how could u assume i've never driven an h22 hatch...ive driven h22 frankenstein hatches, even h22 turbo hatches...im not unfamiliar w/ your kind.... now can i ask u if you've driven a vette?.... if you have..you would know that they do extremely well on the highway, and it'll take more than a high 13 sec car to pull on one.... "don't be so ignorant of other cars"... also...being that your car has an h22, i'll assume u have the prelude tranny as well.... even then, your car can't top out much higher than 140mph.... at that top speed, a vette will continue to pull on your ass while u hit rev limit....

[JaY D. Em]

well uh, the race is real, so what's there to see? I don't get how you can say it didn't happen, is my only deal? And like i said, what do 1/4 mile times have to do with highway racing. Granted, it can give you somewhat of an idea... Like let's say, a civic running 16.5 isn't gonna compete with a gsr running 14.5... Yes that can help out. But at the same time a 13.8 front wheel drive is a little different then a 13.8 rear wheel drive on the highway. I think the FF 13.8 will pull the FR 13.8 on the highway. So granted, i think a rear wheel drive car running, let's say, 13.3 and a front wheel drive running 13.8 would be a good race on the highway!

Notice i said good race... I didn't say the front drive would win. You guys are jumping on a HONDA board complaining like I yelled out to the world, I SPANKED A CORVETTE!!! I didn't, i simply stated the results of the race and i gave an opinion on how i thought i could've had a better race if we took off at the same time! I don't know who would've won... The second race never took place. I just wanted to show the people the potential of a prelude motor in a civic hatchback.

Point taken?:|

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
well uh, the race is real, so what's there to see? I don't get how you can say it didn't happen, is my only deal? And like i said, what do 1/4 mile times have to do with highway racing. Granted, it can give you somewhat of an idea... Like let's say, a civic running 16.5 isn't gonna compete with a gsr running 14.5... Yes that can help out. But at the same time a 13.8 front wheel drive is a little different then a 13.8 rear wheel drive on the highway. I think the FF 13.8 will pull the FR 13.8 on the highway. So granted, i think a rear wheel drive car running, let's say, 13.3 and a front wheel drive running 13.8 would be a good race on the highway!

Notice i said good race... I didn't say the front drive would win. You guys are jumping on a HONDA board complaining like I yelled out to the world, I SPANKED A CORVETTE!!! I didn't, i simply stated the results of the race and i gave an opinion on how i thought i could've had a better race if we took off at the same time! I don't know who would've won... The second race never took place. I just wanted to show the people the potential of a prelude motor in a civic hatchback.

Point taken?:|



bro...do you even drive an h22 hatch?.... if i remember correctly, they do DAMN well of the line.... a 2000lb car w/ torque well above it's head will rip up 1/8 mile times.... you're taking hypothetical situations, putting them together and asking everybody if it's possible.... let me ask u, when u ran that 13.8, did u lose traction til the end of first?... if you got such a bad launch, u probably would've clocked a high 14 low 15 1/4 mile time....if you nailed the start, your time is possible and your take off is not much worse than a vettes launch.... :rolleyes:

[JaY D. Em]

You guys are making some really stupid points, being as i didn't pull him i stated i was with him until ABOUT 140 when he exited. My car didn't even have a chance to top out! Stupid point #1!;)

#2) I didn't assume you haven't driven a civic with a prelude transplant. I said you haven't driven my car!:no:

#3) "lol, i doubt that you beat him..." - again, i didn't say i beat him! But i'll tell you one more time, i'll give you slow ones a minute to get your notepad out... :| You ready? I DIDN'T SAY, "I BEAT HIM"!

#4) "Don't be so ignorant to other cars" - Who the fukk said i thought the car was slow and it was a poor excuse for a Corvette... Not me! Anybody else? Anyone? Oki, guess not...

#5) "You're wrong when you say 1/4 mile times have nothing to do with highway racing" - Let's say there's a front wheel drive version of a corvette. Has the same weight, aerodynamics. Everything is the exact same except it is front wheel drive. Who's gonna get off the line first? The rear wheel drive corvette! How is the front wheel drive gonna catch up if they have the same amount of horsepower. Doesn't that mean that the rear wheel drive's 1/4 mile time is gonna be faster? It doesn't matter how short or long the race is. It's gonna turn out the same! Now let's say we go on the highway and they drop at the same exact time. Don't you agree that the race will be alot closer? I thought so...

We can do this all day long, it doesn't matter. Your points so far have had nothing to do with what i posted first. Which is the race between a corvette and my car. It had nothing to do with me saying i beat him! Read again and then read your posts so far.:no:

[Wicked_Motorcar]

In the end, street racing and drag racing is pretty stupid. I'd rather have a vette in my driveway than a honda anyday unless it was a NSX.

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by gixer




bro...do you even drive an h22 hatch?.... if i remember correctly, they do DAMN well of the line.... a 2000lb car w/ torque well above it's head will rip up 1/8 mile times.... you're taking hypothetical situations, putting them together and asking everybody if it's possible.... let me ask u, when u ran that 13.8, did u lose traction til the end of first?... if you got such a bad launch, u probably would've clocked a high 14 low 15 1/4 mile time....if you nailed the start, your time is possible and your take off is not much worse than a vettes launch.... :rolleyes:

Bro, i believe if i had better tires i could've hit a much better 60ft and had a much better time. I think you forgot that i had only run twice. And yes, i did spin all the way through first. So, doesn't that make my car just a little bit faster than what the 1/4 mile says... Doesn't that make my point about me hanging with the vette just a little bit better? We'll just make that #6...

Please hand any more stupid points in before the end of the day... Gixer, i expect more from you! You always have the best ones!

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by Wicked_Motorcar
In the end, street racing and drag racing is pretty stupid. I'd rather have a vette in my driveway than a honda anyday unless it was a NSX.

And yet, you're in a Honda Forum... :confused: I don't know about you... You're a special one! I'm gonna have to pay more attention to you! (Teacher hands him his medication)

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
You guys are making some really stupid points, being as i didn't pull him i stated i was with him until ABOUT 140 when he exited. My car didn't even have a chance to top out! Stupid point #1!;)

#2) I didn't assume you haven't driven a civic with a prelude transplant. I said you haven't driven my car!:no:

#3) "lol, i doubt that you beat him..." - again, i didn't say i beat him! But i'll tell you one more time, i'll give you slow ones a minute to get your notepad out... :| You ready? I DIDN'T SAY, "I BEAT HIM"!

#4) "Don't be so ignorant to other cars" - Who the fukk said i thought the car was slow and it was a poor excuse for a Corvette... Not me! Anybody else? Anyone? Oki, guess not...

#5) "You're wrong when you say 1/4 mile times have nothing to do with highway racing" - Let's say there's a front wheel drive version of a corvette. Has the same weight, aerodynamics. Everything is the exact same except it is front wheel drive. Who's gonna get off the line first? The rear wheel drive corvette! How is the front wheel drive gonna catch up if they have the same amount of horsepower. Doesn't that mean that the rear wheel drive's 1/4 mile time is gonna be faster? It doesn't matter how short or long the race is. It's gonna turn out the same! Now let's say we go on the highway and they drop at the same exact time. Don't you agree that the race will be alot closer? I thought so...

We can do this all day long, it doesn't matter. Your points so far have had nothing to do with what i posted first. Which is the race between a corvette and my car. It had nothing to do with me saying i beat him! Read again and then read your posts so far.:no:



ok charlie....get your happy ass back in your seat.... now i know you're really lying when u said u were at 140mph.... by that time, your car would be goin 139..........140............1401/2.... while the vette would be advancing at 140.....145.....147....150... u see something there?.... he would've pulled on your lying ass like no tomorrow.... go on a different board and post some bullshit to other gullible kids, cuz u can't fool anybody....get it through your head.... u can't hang....

[gixer]

ive owned plenty of honda's, and still own one...i have a special need for vtec....that's why im here...im also here to blow the cover of people who are over their head in bullshit...... i had nothing against u til u tried to make me look like the fool, you were getting offensive....therefore...i exchanged....

[JaY D. Em]

Damn, that's funny cause a minute ago you were posting civilly about the argument/discussion... Is someone getting under your skin? hahahahahahahahahahaha... You're SO STUPID... I'm having fun here! The race is true, everything is true. I don't have to justify that to you! Keep it coming! You can't argue for shiet! Damn man, you're really coming un-glued here! It's gonna be ok! It's just a forum discussion. In which "u can' hang..."

other gullible kids
And did you here that everyone! He just called you "GULLIBLE KIDS!"

Seriously man, let's grow up just a little bit and keep this discussion going. When someone proves you wrong don't throw tantrums!

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by gixer
ive owned plenty of honda's, and still own one...i have a special need for vtec....that's why im here...im also here to blow the cover of people who are over their head in bullshit...... i had nothing against u til u tried to make me look like the fool, you were getting offensive....therefore...i exchanged....

Damn, it's like everytime i post something, you make it valid! I like the whole bit about me trying to make you look like a fool! That wasn't my intentions at all... Is that how you feel? If so, we can set up an appointment with someone and we can discuss your hurt feelings about how someone made you feel stupid!

You're so fun Gixer!

Now if you'll excuse me, it's lunch time! See you at recess!

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
Damn, that's funny cause a minute ago you were posting civilly about the argument/discussion... Is someone getting under your skin? hahahahahahahahahahaha... You're SO STUPID... I'm having fun here! The race is true, everything is true. I don't have to justify that to you! Keep it coming! You can't argue for shiet! Damn man, you're really coming un-glued here! It's gonna be ok! It's just a forum discussion. In which "u can' hang..."


And did you here that everyone! He just called you "GULLIBLE KIDS!"

Seriously man, let's grow up just a little bit and keep this discussion going. When someone proves you wrong don't throw tantrums!



rofl....you look rather desperate with this post, admit that your wrong...that u lied, and start all over.... now that your cover is blown, don't try to get other members against me.... "other gullible kids" meaning nobody in particular.... u fooled some people here, but after this, ur the fool...you can't prove shit.......i threw some questions at you which you couldn't explain....ive been on many boards, i see people like u everyday.... i put them on the spot, and they never return.... now if u admit to us that you're wrong....maybe we can work something out... but if you continue to feed us bullshit...i will continue to prove u wrong in every post that u make....im done arguing w/ you....

[Accord Man]

Fellas.. lets try and keep this about the race..

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ok charlie....get your happy ass back in your seat.... now i know you're really lying when u said u were at 140mph.... by that time, your car would be goin 139..........140............1401/2.... while the vette would be advancing at 140.....145.....147....150... u see something there?....

Good point..



JaY D. Em, got anything to say about it?

[JaY D. Em]

;(No Gixer, please don't go! I'm having so much fun here! Of course you're done arguing with me... Everything you said has had nothing to do with my original post... And everything you've said in accordance to my posts against you have proved zero! So now that you've finished arguing with me on how i can't hang with a vette in which you have zero proof on and have made YOURSELF look like a fool We can get back to the original post...

And accord man, i wasn't gonna say anthing much about the whole mph post but since you thought it was cool, i'll address it...

How the HELL can he determine what my speedometer reads and what the corvette's speedometer reads?:rolleyes: He had a radar gone? Oh, he was magically in both cars! I didn't think it was a good point at all but i guess i should address it if you thought so. I guess. You still sore about earlier posts? Why accord man? WHYYYYYYYY?!!?!?!?!?! hahaha, juss messin' man...

[Accord Man]

haha nah not sore.. I'm here to promote peace and logical argumentation! :crazy:

In the last few posts thats one had a good arguement.


When hustling at that speed.. You'd tend to think that the V8 would slaughter any 4 banger.. And the accleration that gixer described seems very reasonable.. And so the vette would be walking away from you big time..

humm..

[JaY D. Em]

Well, so am i! We should start a club!!! ;)

Really though, the arguing isn't ever gonna come to an end. He, and i guess you too, can go against me all day! That's the fun of forums...

The point is, no one can ever distinguish who won! You just have to take the persons word for it... He seems to think that i claimed a kill against a corvette.:no: I simply was stating the facts and getting opinions from the rest of the forum on if it would be a closer race or not if we'd have dropped at the same time... Then him and the SS guy jumped in claiming that i said i won. That's not true. That's where the argument starts and that's where the fun begins. Now it's only normal for him to call me a liar after points against him were made. Alot of people do that. I'm not here to start flame wars. I like the discussions and arguments over cars. Mainly the reason why i kept going.

But, for you to agree with him on saying that the vette would be walking away from me big time is poor jugement. That's like me saying a civic would walk away from you at 110... I can't determine that. I don't know how your car runs and i don't know what the civic pulls like. The argument is pointless, being that no one can determine who really would've won. It's just a simple case of fact and opinion. I laid the facts down and asked for people's opinions. That's what the first post is about. He obviously is the type to start flaming people. Nothing wrong with that, it's just that, don't flame if you didn't read the thread right in the first place...

Now, can we get back to the unbiased opinions i was getting before we were interrupted?

[Accord Man]

If I'm not mistaken the jdm h22a's put out around 150 lbs ft torque and the basic vette puts out around 380ish..

You guys were both pretty close to your top speed.. (maybe you a little more..)

After deep reflection, it seems to me as if you're engine would be wheezing.. Really it looks as if he'd walk away.. Thats what 380lbs of pull will do to ya..




PS. Dont think I have anything against h22s... I dream of swapping one into my accord.. Unless I get an SC300 with a TT 2JZ-GTE.. :yes: :yes:

[JaY D. Em]

Look man, i don't think you understand... We're not talking about who was pulling who... He was ahead of me by about a car and a 1/2. I said i was with him... I just brought up the question would it have been a closer race if we'd have dropped at the same time. Arrgh, this is getting old explaining...

But look, i hope you do swap in a motor... So you can see that the prelude motors aren't gasping for air around 140, they're still pulling. The only thing that would make it cut off is the rev-limiter. If you ever get a chance... Ride in a hatch with a prelude motor, i promise you you'll think differently on how an h22a pulls on the highway. It's sort of pointless. Just have to experience it i guess...

Again, read the post, that's exactly what happened... I'm not bragging on killing a vette or saying that i was creeping up on it or something... Just raising a question...

[Addict]

Nice kill, Jay. I believe on that one.

Isn't it amazing how something so simple can cause a huge flair up like this?

There's always way too many variables in street racing. Dirver skill, pavement conditions, etc. In my 98 EX I beat an 85/86 Vette (don't remember the exact year). Plain & simple. Granted I was spraying a bit too though...;)

Let's not make this into a flame post fellas......

[JaY D. Em]

Ah yes moderation... Thanks, good point too! No telling how good of a driver he was. I just wanted to go again!!!! You don't know how frustrating it is! I wanna see what this thing does against cars of that sort...

[Accord Man]

Who's flaming??

JaY D. Em and I go wayyy back!!




:D :cool:

[JaY D. Em]

Oh yeh! Since we were both on DYNO's... The bikes!!!:yes: :D :kiss: :wave: :cool:

[Addict]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
Ah yes moderation... Thanks, good point too! No telling how good of a driver he was. I just wanted to go again!!!! You don't know how frustrating it is! I wanna see what this thing does against cars of that sort...

Yes I can relate. There was a white Type R rolling around the other day. He wouldn't race me...... Not that I'd win.

[Shophear95]

Actually quarter mile time doesn't matter in a highway race, it's your trap speed. since I see you trapping at 99mph (unless you haven't updated your sig) and a stock vette would be trapping about 109. stock ls1's trap 106. by that logic a car trapping 99 wouldn't stand a chance against a car trapping close to 110, unless they couldn't drive

[ChrisCantSkate]

well, i own a h22, and i can say i pull HARD upto 135mph, thats the speed i LET OFF at, it had balls to keep going, but it kinda gets freaky at that speed. and seeing 6800rpms on the speedo in 5th gear is a site to see. i'd give the lude 148-150 top end. im not possitive, but im just stating from personal experiences, that the h22 donsnt get exausted high up in speed. i bet with the right gearing, downforce, and traction, 160 wouldnt be a problem. i was around 6800rpms i belive at 135mph, i may be wrong, cause i was more focused on the road than my dash, but i know i saw 135mph the rpms were between 6500 and 6800 i think, i was gonna try to pin it, but it was just too fast. in a hatch, which is a lighter car than my tank, i can see no reason why he WOULDNT be pullin hard upto redline.

[JaY D. Em]

YES! H22 Power!!!:D

[ChrisCantSkate]

jdm- i see you have rsr headers.... those are quite a nice peice you got there, i'll trade you my dc's for them :crazy:

[ChrisCantSkate]

oh ive driven gsr's and civic si's i can tell you they wine out much lower than a h22, my boy has a SI with i/h/e/clutch/flywheel/fpr/all basic bolt ons basicaly, and he's got a 65 shot. we go dead even from a 60mph roll. i'll take him if we launch. trust me, h22's have alot of upper power, his h22a is 200hp 161lb-ft mines only 190hp 158lb-ft. stock all power is made up in the higher rpms also, the tq peak is 6500rpms and the hp is 6800 so at the near top of 5th gear, he's pumping out him prime power.

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by 4thGenlude
jdm- i see you have rsr headers.... those are quite a nice peice you got there, i'll trade you my dc's for them :crazy:

Hahaha, well, actually... I got it for 75 dollars... The person that sold the motor to the shop neglected to tell them it didn't have an exaust manifold so the guy said you can have this used RSR header for $150. The shop and i split the cost down the middle. You can't beat a RSR header straight from Japan, new or used! Kinda purple lookin' right now but it'd be like that after while any way!!!

[Joe Anstett]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
F-Bodies? Please... I don't think you've ever been in a car with this swap...


And when's the last time you were in an f-body? They run low 13s of the showroom floor. And C5 vettes should crack into the 12s off the showroom floor -- Z06s should get to the low 12s.

I took my 4000-lb (with me in it and a full tank) HEAVY-@SS convertible Trans-Am to the track with simple mods (air intake, exhaust) and ran 13.68 @ 103. No NAAAAAAAAAAAWS. Stock plus intake/exhaust in a heavy convertible with a rollbar in it.

Hey, high 13s is fast for a Civic, but it's "something is wrong with my car" territory for f-bodys and corvettes.

:rolleyes:

Joe

[Wicked_Motorcar]

Originally posted by Joe Anstett


And when's the last time you were in an f-body? They run low 13s of the showroom floor. And C5 vettes should crack into the 12s off the showroom floor -- Z06s should get to the low 12s.

I took my 4000-lb (with me in it and a full tank) HEAVY-@SS convertible Trans-Am to the track with simple mods (air intake, exhaust) and ran 13.68 @ 103. No NAAAAAAAAAAAWS. Stock plus intake/exhaust in a heavy convertible with a rollbar in it.

Hey, high 13s is fast for a Civic, but it's "something is wrong with my car" territory for f-bodys and corvettes.

:rolleyes:

Joe

Ha ha, i like the something wrong with my car part... so true! I think the import crowd sticks to their own and only really compete against each other. They swap small engines for small engines and "race" the other civic down the street. They both get bug eyed and drool when the guy with the '69 camaro w/ a rat rolls by but then they go back to "racing" eachother.

[JaY D. Em]

Damn, we keep getting back to 1/4 mile times... I only posted them because some people were interested. If you want me to go for the best time i can get i'd be glad too... So maybe it's not a "somethings wrong with my car territory". I only ran it twice. And that's the first time there with that car. Didn't get to experiment with the launch or anything. I didn't have enough time to go more than 2 runs. I'll let you guys know. Don't let the times fool you. Read the whole thread before you start posting.

So you got vtec in that trans-am? I could've swore this was a honda forum... That's weird...

[gixer]

omg....a prelude topping out at 150mph?.... dude..my mom has a 00 prelude, damn right she's a pimp...sure that car is all high end, ...but i know i can't crack 140mph even at sea level.... jdm...u wanna continue this discussion yet u ignore all my points of doubt.... i wanted to keep this a decent convo...but if u reread my post, you'll know who got worked up....and u know what guys, stock vettes consistently run 12's, and z06's given a good driver will do high 11's....i live at the track...i see these things everyday...

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by Wicked_Motorcar


Ha ha, i like the something wrong with my car part... so true! I think the import crowd sticks to their own and only really compete against each other. They swap small engines for small engines and "race" the other civic down the street. They both get bug eyed and drool when the guy with the '69 camaro w/ a rat rolls by but then they go back to "racing" eachother.

Man, i thought you left! How you gonna come on a Honda forum and talk shiet about imports? You're wasting quality disscusion/database space... You're buddies in the v8 forums flame you too much? Had to come make yourself feel better in an "import" forum? I think the import crowd sticks to their own and only really compete against each other. Isn't this particular thread you decided to share your last 2 cents on about an import racing a domestic?

I'm sorry we have to keep going here my fellow Honda and import enthusiasts, but they leave me no choice when they come with their stereotypes...

[Niacin]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
Yo thanks ya'll! I'm hoping to meet up with another one soon. I know it'll be a really good race if we both drop at the same time! Other than that, modified trans-ams and z28's are pretty close. I know most vette's pull like modified trans-ams and 28's. Eh, oh well, i'll meet up with one soon...

Sorry sir, but I'm raising the flag. 'round these parts, modified 00-01 F's are in the 12's. One kid is in the 11's with headers, intake, exhaust. I'm deep 13's on the motor, and 12's on spray.

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
As for other kills...
Dead even with a modded trans-am and z28...
Pulled a stock trans-am...
k...see above. Although, I do agree with you on the Mustang part. :) But, it's the street. Anything can happen.

Max

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
;(No Gixer, please don't go! I'm having so much fun here! Of course you're done arguing with me... Everything you said has had nothing to do with my original post... And everything you've said in accordance to my posts against you have proved zero! So now that you've finished arguing with me on how i can't hang with a vette in which you have zero proof on and have made YOURSELF look like a fool We can get back to the original post...

And accord man, i wasn't gonna say anthing much about the whole mph post but since you thought it was cool, i'll address it...

How the HELL can he determine what my speedometer reads and what the corvette's speedometer reads?:rolleyes: He had a radar gone? Oh, he was magically in both cars! I didn't think it was a good point at all but i guess i should address it if you thought so. I guess. You still sore about earlier posts? Why accord man? WHYYYYYYYY?!!?!?!?!?! hahaha, juss messin' man...



why would i wanna prove u wrong?.... i threw some questions at you in which none of them were logically explained, thats why i couldn't believe a word of what u said....if you don't feel the need to prove yourself...then why bother?... you're obviously full of shit... u use insults as your defense mechanism, simply because u need time to go look up the facts....now what?... u ran twice...clocked a high 13 sec run and u think u can do better?.... tell me....what times are u expecting to see next...low 12's? corvette times?... how is it possible that u pulled a 13 sec run, with a bad launch...on a near stock h22?.... get your lies straight...cuz ur slipping.

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by gixer
omg....a prelude topping out at 150mph?.... dude..my mom has a 00 prelude, damn right she's a pimp...sure that car is all high end, ...but i know i can't crack 140mph even at sea level.... jdm...u wanna continue this discussion yet u ignore all my points of doubt.... i wanted to keep this a decent convo...but if u reread my post, you'll know who got worked up....and u know what guys, stock vettes consistently run 12's, and z06's given a good driver will do high 11's....i live at the track...i see these things everyday...

hahaha, how's the rent there? And again, why do we keep going back to the track, you're starting to get annoying man. It was almost back to civilized. And who the fukk said my car tops out at 150, not me! I think the guy that mentioned 150 was talking about a prelude motor in a hatch... We could just make that #7. I thought you were done "arguing"? You're so gay. People like you can't go without having the last word... You know what i'm talking about. The people who lose arguments... The one's that can't let it just be...

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em


hahaha, how's the rent there? And again, why do we keep going back to the track, you're starting to get annoying man. It was almost back to civilized. And who the fukk said my car tops out at 150, not me! I think the guy that mentioned 150 was talking about a prelude motor in a hatch... We could just make that #7. I thought you were done "arguing"? You're so gay. People like you can't go without having the last word... You know what i'm talking about. The people who lose arguments... The one's that can't let it just be...



oh my f*cking god...was i even talking to u?... im gay? what is this...middle school?.... i havent finished because u wanted to keep going...im right here buddy.... give it all u got...i went back to the track because the other dudes wanted to discuss f-body times....my post for u is still waiting, a bunch of them w/ no answers.... if you don't wanna answer them....we can end this right now .....but i gotta hand it to u...you're a good liar....

[JaY D. Em]

OH MY GAWD! No you're doubting my times... Get the fukk out of here... :D It's like me saying you don't have a s2000! Did i say i was going for 12 second times? did i say that i was gonna hit corvette times. Nope... I'm not insulting you just correcting you. But if you feel insulted then i'm sorry! Not really... I don't have time for this just post ?'s you want answered... I'd be happy to. You're annoying!

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
OH MY GAWD! No you're doubting my times... Get the fukk out of here... :D It's like me saying you don't have a s2000! Did i say i was going for 12 second times? did i say that i was gonna hit corvette times. Nope... I'm not insulting you just correcting you. But if you feel insulted then i'm sorry! Not really... I don't have time for this just post ?'s you want answered... I'd be happy to. You're annoying!



im annoying?....lol...i had to read through 3 pages of your bullshit and couldn't take any more of it...all this "nice race jay"... "i believe you jay" was making me sick.... and don't analyze every word of what i said either, your making yourself the hypocrit....i was being sarcastic.... so tell me.... when u were at 140mph, were u advancing...were u at rev limit...or were u just at redline....i don't care what car u put this engine in...it's gearing is not developed to go any faster....

[gixer]

thanx for leaving my questions unanswered again....hopefully i have something decent to read when i come back.....

[Wicked_Motorcar]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em


Man, i thought you left! How you gonna come on a Honda forum and talk shiet about imports? You're wasting quality disscusion/database space... You're buddies in the v8 forums flame you too much? Had to come make yourself feel better in an "import" forum? Isn't this particular thread you decided to share your last 2 cents on about an import racing a domestic?

I'm sorry we have to keep going here my fellow Honda and import enthusiasts, but they leave me no choice when they come with their stereotypes...

Hey, the ricers come to the forum I go on and talk some sh*t, why can't I? Besides, I never said anything bad about imports, just that they tend to stick to themselves. Don't deny auto history by thinking all there is and will ever be are imports. Back in the 60s/70s, it was all about horsepower and if you think engine swaps are a big deal, they aren't. It's still the same these days, if you want to compete, you need to face reality and realize that horsepower is what it's about. Is it easier to get a 350 hp camaro into 12s with a few dollars or is a 100 hp honda the way to go? Different strokes for different folks but unless you're talking about a supra TT/ RX7 TT or any other capable chassis, you're wasting your money if all you want to do is go fast.

[Accord Man]

----------------->>>>>>>>>> Cutting in>>>>>>>>

Lets not turn this into a Domestic/Import war.. Please..

[FeelMyRide]

Jay D. Em.. I give you props!
:yes:

[ChrisCantSkate]

guys remember, in 1/4 mile your 60-ft matter soo soo much, a rwd fast car and be deep in the 1.xx's while a fwd will bairly break 2.0 so a fwd running a 13.5 and a rwd running a 13.5 (just making up numbers) they will have different 60 ft's and the rwd will ALWAYS win, considering same conditions. this means that the fwd import will have to pull harder and faster to make the same 1/4 mile time. i know that ls-1's are no joke, they haul, but its a 4000lb car a hatch is almost half that, maybe the motor puts half the power but power to weight ratios...... im not saying he will beat a corvette 1/4 mile, but from a roll, it is possible. you can flame me all you want, honestly i dont care, but all i know is my car can get up and go from a roll, considering i can drop into a good rpm, and if you read, jay d. em is saying it was a close race and if they went at the same time, he might have been able to beat him. h22's power is the upper rpms, i will honestly say i know not a whole lot about vette engines. a h22 engine in any car(expecialy anything besides a prelude) puts it on a different playing field than a civic with a stock engine. i wish the domestic guys could at least accept that a fwd 4 cylender can and may beat a v8. z0-6 is completly out of the question, those things battle super cars, but high 12's on a base c5 is kinda hard for me to take in.thats already close to super-car territory. i always was under the impression that z28's trans ams and whatnot ran high 13's (mainly cause one of my friends in a prelude running 13.8 can beat them) the ws6 trans am and SS ran low 13's along with the base c5 and the z0-6 was low 12's correct me if im wrong. i want the truthfull info. oh another thing, i was only saying i would think a hatch-h22 could hit 150 because i was pulling hard upto 135 when i let off, because of the less weight they have. once again i was guessing, i may be incorrect. i'll say it can pull hard upto 140 with confidence though

[JaY D. Em]

:D I got shiet to do... I'm not gonna sit here all day and play flame you, flame me.

1) I don't know about you, but when i'm pulling triple digits i'm not looking at the speedometer the whole way through. And since you're "familiar with my kind" then you should know that the speedometer stops at 130. I was passed that point meaning it was around 135-140. Which goes hand in hand with what i said - ABOUT 140! That's #8...

2) I don't remember what exact rpm i was at. It was redlining and i was still in 4th gear. i've never gotten passed 4th gear in a race. So how is 4th gear the peak of my car. Which proves the point of 4thgenlude and i have been trying to make. IT WAS STILL PULLING! #9...

3) "I don't car what car you put this motor in... it's gearing is not developed to go any faster." See the above point... Stupid Point #10...

So basically i had another gear right? How is it not developed to go any faster? I don't mind answering your ?'s. I have nothing to lie about.

And don't get on people for giving me a compliment or telling me good job. They're just giving me their opinion, just as you are! So for you to bring them into the post is childish!

I'll try for a best time in my car when i have more time. I pulled that time with ease. Didn't mess with the car and just took it to the track and ran. I'm sure mid 13's aren't a problem!

I don't mind arguing with you on certain points, but for you to call me a liar is way off base and childish. "What is this, Middle School?" We were having a nice argument/discussion, don't ruin it by yelling false accusations that you have exactly no actual proof of. You were there? Nope, so all you can do is give me an opinion. Don't call me a liar. And, why are you so defensive of people making you look like a fool?!?!? No one's trying! I'm just pulling out your points and correcting them... That's an argument/discussion! Really, can you do me a huge favor and read the actual first post. I never said i one, i only gave an opinion on what i thought would happen if we'd have dropped at the same time, which is a closer race. Didn't say i'd win. Just a closer race. I just posted an opinion and asked for others opinions.

Wicked_Motorcar - man, don't post an argument unless you're talking about the post. No one mentioned motor-swaps being SOOOOOO cool! No one said anything about denying auto history by saying there's only gonna be imports. Don't put words in peoples mouths, please!:rolleyes:

[gixer]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
:D I got shiet to do... I'm not gonna sit here all day and play flame you, flame me.

1) I don't know about you, but when i'm pulling triple digits i'm not looking at the speedometer the whole way through. And since you're "familiar with my kind" then you should know that the speedometer stops at 130. I was passed that point meaning it was around 135-140. Which goes hand in hand with what i said - ABOUT 140! That's #8...

2) I don't remember what exact rpm i was at. It was redlining and i was still in 4th gear. i've never gotten passed 4th gear in a race. So how is 4th gear the peak of my car. Which proves the point of 4thgenlude and i have been trying to make. IT WAS STILL PULLING! #9...

3) "I don't car what car you put this motor in... it's gearing is not developed to go any faster." See the above point... Stupid Point #10...

So basically i had another gear right? How is it not developed to go any faster? I don't mind answering your ?'s. I have nothing to lie about.

And don't get on people for giving me a compliment or telling me good job. They're just giving me their opinion, just as you are! So for you to bring them into the post is childish!

I'll try for a best time in my car when i have more time. I pulled that time with ease. Didn't mess with the car and just took it to the track and ran. I'm sure mid 13's aren't a problem!

I don't mind arguing with you on certain points, but for you to call me a liar is way off base and childish. "What is this, Middle School?" We were having a nice argument/discussion, don't ruin it by yelling false accusations that you have exactly no actual proof of. You were there? Nope, so all you can do is give me an opinion. Don't call me a liar. And, why are you so defensive of people making you look like a fool?!?!? No one's trying! I'm just pulling out your points and correcting them... That's an argument/discussion! Really, can you do me a huge favor and read the actual first post. I never said i one, i only gave an opinion on what i thought would happen if we'd have dropped at the same time, which is a closer race. Didn't say i'd win. Just a closer race. I just posted an opinion and asked for others opinions.





i just don't understand u....you're such a hypocrit...how can u sit there and call me childish when ur calling me "gay".... i tried to straigten out the convo but u like to continue saying my questions are stupid because u simply couldn't answer them.... what u just said made this lie even worse.... i may not know your car specifically but i know the gearing on that motor and tranny is not long enough to go past 140mph... it took you one day to answer me.... maybe u did hang, maybe u didn't....but i know for certain your story is exaggerated....if your gonna post a kill story...tell it as it is...

[ChrisCantSkate]

i find it hard to belive the car cant go beyond 140. i hit 135 with rpms to go, and the pull to get me there

[Accord Man]

Sure it can.. But the acceleration rate will be slooowww..

[JaY D. Em]

:no: Alright man, i'm done, i answer your ?'s specifically and you say i don't answer them... I correct your mistakes and you say that i'm making fun of you. I'm making fun of the points. If that indirectly hurts you, damn, you got issues! So now i must call you a liar and say that your mom doesn't have a prelude! If she did you would clearly know that the 92-96 preludes hit about 140 in 4th gear.

That is the exact way you argue! I have no proof to say that your mom doesn't have a prelude... The same way you can't say i didn't hang! And for the last time! I NEVER SAID I PAST 140! So that throws your whole argument on the last post about the tranny being "geared" for going past 140... Your points are so off everytime! STOP!!!

You're a hipocrit it clearly says in your post "maybe you hung, maybe you didn't" but then you go and say "made this lie much worse." :no:

in one post you go from liar, to maybe i hung to your story is exagerrated... What's that? How can you call me a hipocrit after that?

And lastly, i stated everything as it happened. I don't lie...

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by FeelMyRide
Jay D. Em.. I give you props!
:yes:

Thanks man...;)

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em


Thanks man...;)

*wispers to Jay D Em* Shes a woman..;)


Everyone:

Lets end all the name calling right now. We dont need it on this board. :no:

If it doesnt stop the thread will be closed before it gets worse.

[JaY D. Em]

Originally posted by Racing Rice


*wispers to Jay D Em* Shes a woman..;)


Everyone:

Lets end all the name calling right now. We dont need it on this board. :no:

If it doesnt stop the thread will be closed before it gets worse.

Oh, ahahahahahahahahaha! :D My bad... So sorry!:crazy:

Stop the name calling? ;)Fine by me... Gixer, how 'bout you???

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by JaY D. Em
Stop the name calling? ;)Fine by me... Gixer, how 'bout you???


Its good to have indepth discussions about something, we welcome those. But we dont like personal attacks because they will start a small and snowball into absolute Chaos. So debate and discuss all you want to get your point across because thats all good.

[JaY D. Em]

It's already total chaos...:yes: But, i agree that it's alot funner to debate than argue... Well, it's even fun to argue but not be called a liar!:cool: But i too said some things... It's cool! It was fun Gixer!:crazy:

[gixer]

my mom drives a 00 prelude... *shrug*... if you want me to prove it...ask me a specific question about it.

[JaY D. Em]

I wasn't seriously denying that your mom didn't have a prelude... Nevermind!

[tightteg52]

Ok I dont doubt that you hung with a c5 vette. but yhe points im going to tryadn make are

#1:most ppl that buy c5 vettes buy thme for prestige and not racing. He was probly trying to make a example of you and found out other wise.

#2 he probaly didn't down shift enough they have 6 gear,(i think) he was crusing in 6th when he came up downshifted once to 5th and twiceto 4th maybe but probaly couldv'e downshifted again and would of walked you like no tommorow but he didn't

I dont doubt your story but your ignorance is appearent. I think it kicks @$$ having domestic ppl around. yes its hondastyle. maybe they wann learn more about our world and teach us about theres. I own a integra but frequent fbody.com supraforums.com. rx7forums.com when it was up. Why i dont own any of those cars but its nice to learn about these fine automobiles. Any REAL car ENTHUSIAST would have respect for all cars. I myself was not raised around cars and wondered in on my own, and personally love the CAR scene, not hte import scene not the domestic scene but the CAR scene, why you ask cause it is fun chillin an talkin to ppl that like different cars. So ppl please lets just all get along. Our new domestic friends hang around i love learning from domestic ppl. hehe sorry for my long pointles rant.

[3amigos]

Under a favorable condition what you say could have happened to an extent.How close you hung to the corvette is the question only you can answer and is open to conjecture. My belief in your comment's hinge's on the fact that you state you "hang" with modded Z-28's? My car has a cat back exhaust which added little if any power and the 1 time I took it to the track almost broke into the 12's and with a little more seat time will. Also my car is not as fast as 01-02 car's and I have 11 MPH on you.You need to get out more.

[ChrisCantSkate]

3amigos, i must say you have a fast car, 13.05 is a very quick time. i dont doubt you at all, but that is really fast for a z28 (i think) i always thought they were high 13's stock.

im glad to see some people here appreciate all cars. if i had my way i would own my prelude(prelude pride!!) a 68 427 vette(the limited FAST one), and a nissan skyline r34 v-spec II. you guys just godda understand that a civic hatch is a very light car, and with the h22, a powerfull 4banger it is a contestant in the world of faster cars expecialy for a fwd car. i think anyone here would proboly take the c5 over the civic, i know i would, because rwd, and it handles great, but the civ can go strait fast. my friends dad had a c5, actualy 4 of them, but his last one, a 2001, hauled some major ass. i know the power of them, but i also know the power of a civlude. a desentaly modded hatch with a h22 in the 12's isnt unheard of. this is what makes me belive him the most. i know the potential of one.

[tightteg52]

Originally posted by 4thGenlude
3amigos, i must say you have a fast car, 13.05 is a very quick time. i dont doubt you at all, but that is really fast for a z28 (i think) i always thought they were high 13's stock.

im glad to see some people here appreciate all cars. if i had my way i would own my prelude(prelude pride!!) a 68 427 vette(the limited FAST one), and a nissan skyline r34 v-spec II. you guys just godda understand that a civic hatch is a very light car, and with the h22, a powerfull 4banger it is a contestant in the world of faster cars expecialy for a fwd car. i think anyone here would proboly take the c5 over the civic, i know i would, because rwd, and it handles great, but the civ can go strait fast. my friends dad had a c5, actualy 4 of them, but his last one, a 2001, hauled some major ass. i know the power of them, but i also know the power of a civlude. a desentaly modded hatch with a h22 in the 12's isnt unheard of. this is what makes me belive him the most. i know the potential of one.

Only thing is each one comes out different each engine responds to mods differently. and he RUNS 13.8 his potential does NOT matter it is only potentail which you can only speculate on. now a c5 vette tried and true are quick cars but like i said the guy didn't know how to drive or was just screwin around. But i dont think he was lying but probaly exagerating for the sake a of telling a good story i know i would to a certain extent.

[JaY D. Em]

:cool: Your second point is one that i have thought about frequently which is one main reason i wanted to go again... Another is i think it might've been automatic in which maybe it's not as quick as the 6 speed version.

I agree that it's nice to have people from other boards around, i didn't even say anything to the guy with the SS Camaro until he started saying things about imports... Why go on an import site if all you're gonna do is put them down? That's what i was getting at.;) Your points are good. I don't doubt f-bodies nor any other GM product. In fact i'm still a fan of GM being that my parents only own there cars and that's what i was brought up on... Now, any other of the domestic world is a little harder for me to get into. That's just me. Now for me to even be that close to a vette was a little surprising, being the reason i posted... I wanted to know how it would've been if we'd have dropped at the same time. Never doubted the vette... Just wanted to even up with him and go...

[Matrix]

And with that said....