Want new subs thinking of kickers wat should i do? [Archive]

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-04-2002, 11:06 AM

Well i have right now i got 2 Kenwood 12's and runnin a Kenwood 800 watt amp but i am geting rid of those... well i have been thinking about getting the Kicker SolobarL5's.. i want 2 of those with maybe custom box... i heard that kicker is probly the best and i figured but i havent heard much about them... wat u guys think of these? are they worth the money and do they kick a lot of bass out... cause i all want is bass... nothing else... just a ton of bass... and something thats not very expnesive... and i am looking for an amp the lightening Audio Bolt B.300.2 100Wx2 or 300x1 amp... are thye good amps or should i go with sometihng else... if u have any other ideas let me know casue i am puttin my integra in a car show and i want to be the big one with all the bass.. but opinions needed....... Price no higher than $400...

Thanx
Chris
94 Integra

Maxvla

03-04-2002, 02:28 PM

good luck getting that for under 400...

the setup you have right now is probly right near that mark.

kickers do pound and stay intact pretty well except the squares which tend to come apart rather quickly...
if going with kickers i'd say some xpl's but they are going to cost ya. and the amp... i bet you cant even find any 800W (decent quality) for much under $400. so if thats the absolute limit in $$'s stay with what you have or just upgrade one thing ie the subs or the amp or whatever.
custom box minimum 80.00 unless you do it yourself.

car show bass is minimum 2 speakers(many more usually cause the one's you could get away with just two are like 1000 bucks each.)... total sub wattage about 1500W-sky's the limit.

i hope i didnt put a damper on ya... but 400 is just not reasonable for car show bass.

>>Later>>

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-04-2002, 03:48 PM

Its not like car shows in major towns. its one at our school and we have one for the kids of our high school and i want to blow away everyone with them... well i can get an amp that can hold up 12's for $150 from a freind who owns a audio shop.. but i want some subs that punch out good bass

Accord Man

03-04-2002, 05:40 PM

So the amps we're considering is 300rms x 1 at 4ohms?

93chromeacc

03-04-2002, 07:01 PM

I have one Solo L7 12 in my 3000GT and it beats 4 real. I like it. But for the money u tryin to spend....u might as well stay with what u got or just get 2 new subs. i see nothin wrong with Kenwood amps, but I'd ditch them woofers. But for $400...I dunno...flea market shoppin time!

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-04-2002, 07:07 PM

I dont know... but i just got back form my audio guy.. and we talked and he can get me a set of Visonik 12's in a box ready to go for $170 how good are those or have u heard much about them? and he can get me a Power Acustic amp with neon and pushing 500watts for $150 i say thats not to ba for a set..

Chris
94 Integra

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-04-2002, 07:13 PM

Ok ya but problem wiht them kenwoods.. they arent mine.. there my freinds.. he wants to sell them to me for $200 but i think i am passing and getting some new ones that i like.. i mean these really kick hard but i really dont want them.. they are in fiberglass box with 6 air holes... there really nice and all but i think iam passing.. then he offered me the Pioneer 9300 Cd player for $290 and thats one hell of a deal.. so i mgith go for that too.. cant u tell i am in the mood to spend money... LOL

Chris
94 Integra

Accord Man

03-04-2002, 07:29 PM

Check out Ample Audio or Autotek.. Good, and really not too expensive..

The stuff you listed is ok, but you could do better for around the same amount of dough..

Maxvla

03-04-2002, 08:55 PM

do not buy the kenwood subs from him for 200.00... you can get those two for one at crutchfield.com or other places. those are about 140ish each. thats the ones i have... yep im poor. but they sound decent. im getting a 600W Phoenix Gold amp... its nice.

side note: you should pay attention to what type of box you want... that makes a big difference in the sound. a bandpass box which is a semi sealed box is good for loud volume but not real punchy and deep good for country jazz some rock. sealed box (best in my opinion) is awesome for deep punchy bass but you dont get quite as much volume good for rap, hip hop, really anything with deeper bass. ported box is awesome for higher louder bass which doesn't have much punch at all. good for rock and jazz.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-04-2002, 09:51 PM

Well i know i am not... well the ones i am loking at are in a sealed box.. i just found a set of 3 12's in a sealed box with fiberglass .. they are going for i think $340..

Maxvla

03-04-2002, 10:39 PM

what are the subs in that box? thats kinda cheap...less than a hundred for each sub...

2000Pimpinex

03-05-2002, 09:24 PM

My friend bought 2 12 in L7's for 400 off ebay, brand new. The guy had a shop near where we lived so it worked out good. Those subs are sweeet. Just make sure you have an amp with some balls. Those things are power hungry.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-05-2002, 10:18 PM

Ya i know. if i can find a good set for a good price maybe i can get them... i could have had a hcance to got a pair last year they was the L7's with a built in amp for $200 but i went with 2 10's and a 600 watt amp.. that was a mistake... well Maxvla i checked them out and that audio guy has them in his other integra and there only 2 10s and they sound really nice... i just wonder how 3 of them 12's would sound.. he told me that all they do is bass and nothing else... and thas all i want is a sub with hard hitting bass

Chris
94 Integra

Maxvla

03-06-2002, 12:54 AM

do it if you like them... 3 12's usually sound pretty good no matter what they are. plan to put a TON of power into them even if they aren't really big power subs. the more power the cleaner the really loud bass is.
i suggest staying away from the L7's. they pound like a sex starved jailbreaker but i know 3 friends that have had them and they have seperated from the surrounds starting in the corners. i love kicker to death but they need to do more work on those.

Azkikr111

03-07-2002, 05:36 PM

my good buddy just got 2 10" L5's for i think 130 a pop (and the next week they shot up to $200 a piece) so he got damn lucky, but he has yet to find an amp to push em (doesnt have the $ for a good 1000w amp) and when he finds one on ebay for cheap it turns out his card is maxed out, so he was pissed, but we hooked up my other friends amp to them and only put 50w to each voice coil (100 per sub) and they still hit pretty nice (needless to say i think he'd clobber my MTX, if he ever got an amp...and just think, those things are made for 450w RMS....GOOD LORD! the retard is putting them in a truck...little air spacce!, not even extended cab!!

he'll die lol

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-07-2002, 06:53 PM

Ya.. well i looked at some tdoay and yesterday.. heres wat i found out... this guy can get me 2 American Bass 15's for 110 each.. plus he can make me a custom box for 120 with any kind of capret i want.. i know 15's will kill my car but just foun that out

Then today my guy who i buy all my audio from can get me 2 Pioneer 12's (the black ones) for $130 each and a box for $85. and a good Pioneer amp.. wat u thiink of that also?

Chris
94 Integra

Maxvla

03-08-2002, 01:15 AM

one of my friends had one 15" kicker xpl with about 400W running to it that put my system to shame as far as bass.
if you are really going freakin loud bass get a 15" or two.
10's are good for clean precise bass 12's are good for louder deeper and still pretty precise bass 15's are good for deeeeeep throbbing loud as hell bass.
Kicker XPL 15" subs are 249.00 list but im sure you can find them cheaper. so get one of those and then spend a few hours on the strip and you'll be able to afford a good amp. lol j/k.

94_AcCoRd_EX

03-08-2002, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by Maxvla

Kicker XPL 15" subs are 249.00 list but im sure you can find them cheaper.

Sorry for the shameless plug, but you can get them here for $159... http://caraudiozone.woofersetc.com

Yeah, I make a few bucks on the sale, and its the exact same as buying directly from woofersetc. :cool:

Maxvla

03-08-2002, 01:37 AM

not a shameless plug if you can save someone some bigtime money... you got deals for him on amps there too?

looks like you can get a kicker KX400.2 100x2 bridged 400x1 for 299.00 and the sub for 159. so $450 you will dominate... oh yeah and a box. those are cheap.

Accord Man

03-08-2002, 12:51 PM

If you tell me what ressources you have (money/space/time) and what type of bass you're looking for..

I can suggest some components..

2ndGenTeg

03-08-2002, 02:24 PM

If all you want is bass, get the low end Fosgate 15" woofer- RFZ2415. That woofer will POUND with a mere 200 watts. Get two and send them 500 watts, and you'd be bumpin the neighborhood apart.

Maxvla

03-08-2002, 09:47 PM

fosgate = fosbreak. waste of money (except the amps which are overpriced anyways)

2ndGenTeg

03-09-2002, 01:50 AM

I'm not a huge Fosgate fan myself, but when I sold this stuff, we had a pair of the low end Punch 15s hooked up to an old 800a2. We used to pound the hell out of those all day, and we never broke one over the course of about a year.

Fosgate isn't the greatest stuff out there, but on a tight budget it's really not bad at all. They've developed a bad name amongst the die hards for one reason: they used to make an incredible product, but dropped quality in favor of cutting production costs. Don't get me wrong, they're no A/D/S, Dynaudio or Zapco, but contrary to popular belief, they make a decent product for those on a tight budget.

Accord Man

03-09-2002, 02:04 PM

The thing with fosgate is that, we dont know who the hell is making them..

At one point, they were having they're subs built by cheap ass subcontractors.. Shipped to RF, and they put they're logo on it..

Not very honnest IMO.

PS. this went down in SoCal.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-10-2002, 10:59 AM

Hey accord man, wat do u suggest on a good system. it doesnt matter on space and i just want something not ot expensive and that something that hits hard.

Well i talekdto the guy who does all my audio work and he can get me 2 Pioneer 12's (black ones) for $230 for both. then a box carpeted for around $85.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/pe974386f73c3be7dd55e508bb421161c/fdf5c646.jpg
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Maxvla

03-10-2002, 11:13 AM

you know... i forgot you had a 800W amp... you dont need a new amp. just get a 15" Kicker XPL (or 15" anything really) and a box and you'll be set maximum $ like 250.00
or if your greedy... get <wink> <wink> 2 of them!!!

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-10-2002, 01:01 PM

well dude thas a problem that amp and 12's arent mine.. so then i would have to get an amp too.. so include that with a price

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Accord Man

03-10-2002, 05:00 PM

For the amp I'd go with Ample Audio A226X.. Its around 200$.

And for subs, 2 15" (or 12) Cerwin HED's in a ported box. 15's go for around 95$.

If porperly setup, it'll pound like a bad mofo!

Done for 400$.. :yes: :cool:

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-10-2002, 10:42 PM

95$ for one 15? wow i thik thas just a little cheap isnt it? ok how much will that amp u said put out?

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Maxvla

03-10-2002, 11:54 PM

thought you said just the subs were his...
oh well.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-11-2002, 02:20 PM

Hey that amp isnt mine if u look in the last post it said the subs and the amp isnt mine... sorry for the confusion

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Accord Man

03-11-2002, 08:17 PM

The is rated 350 x 1 @4ohms..
But its an Ample.. So you could expect a little more.

95$ is a good price. Yes. But dont call it a cheap sub, cause it really isnt.

For different reasons some products sell for less than they are worth.. Example, the Image dynamics subs, they are insane SQ subs, but sell for low quality sub prices..

You should try finding a shop that carries these brands and try them out..

Then you'll know.

:cool:

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-11-2002, 10:11 PM

well i wish they was a place.. they only carry Audiobann, American Bass, Kicker, rofter fosgate, boston, vega, ma audio, JL, Pioneer, PPI an thas about it.. thats out of like 2 audio sops around here.. which one out of those d o u think is good?

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Maxvla

03-12-2002, 12:17 AM

outta those... loudest - Kicker; best sound quality - Boston Acoustics

Accord Man

03-12-2002, 01:21 PM

Oh cool.. Then go with the Kickers.. If you can afford a strong enough amp go with the COMP VR..
They'll need 400w rms each, for the 12s.

But with the amp that I suggested you could go with the Kicker Comp 12's.. Thats what I have. In the proper box(sealed), they'll play very clean and loud!

Maxvla

03-12-2002, 01:52 PM

400Wx2 rms amps aren't cheap.

the comp vr's are pretty nice. xpl's sound better.

Accord Man

03-12-2002, 02:00 PM

What do you mean they sound better?

Comp VR's are better in SQ and SPL.. The only thing is that they are harder to tune properly.. But who cares about that.. Cause once you get it right..

:D :eek: :crazy:

Maxvla

03-12-2002, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Accord Man
What do you mean they sound better?

Comp VR's are better in SQ and SPL.. The only thing is that they are harder to tune properly.. But who cares about that.. Cause once you get it right..

:D :eek: :crazy:

the xpls are more expensive and have higher power handling.
the difference is marginal. just my experience.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-12-2002, 02:39 PM

Ya i was wanting Kickers and all.. wat do them compVR4's look like? haven saw them.. i wanted the solobarL5's but i dont know.... if anyon got a pic of them let me know

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Maxvla

03-12-2002, 09:10 PM

http://caraudiozone.woofersetc.com/photos/991.jpg

thats the Kicker Comp VR 12" $110

http://caraudiozone.woofersetc.com/photos/2392.jpg

Kicker Solobaric L5 12" $189

http://caraudiozone.woofersetc.com/photos/1003.jpg

Kicker XPL 12" $139

http://caraudiozone.woofersetc.com/photos/2388.jpg

Kicker Solobaric L7 12" $249

Maxvla

03-12-2002, 09:14 PM

personally... i'd take any of them... anyone wanna donate? its a good cause!

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-12-2002, 10:26 PM

Which one would u pick out of those.. thye all look nice i like the compvr 4's and the XPL's... id dont matter on price but not the L7's too expensive..

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Maxvla

03-12-2002, 11:28 PM

i'd say comp vr's or xpl's. the squares just havent had a good track record for holding together. they beat like hell but don't last long. get the L5's if you want to. just a little too much risk for me to spend major $ on.

Accord Man

03-14-2002, 05:17 PM

has you budget gorwn or something??

How do you plan to power any of these subs?

Maxvla

03-14-2002, 08:41 PM

yeah really... lol

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-14-2002, 10:22 PM

Well if i get 2 of the XPL's they will be only around 290 or so.. just depends.. well a 400 watt amp will power them... i can go bigger but somehting that will make them hit then that will be ok.. i was offered a Pioneer amp today 4 channel for $160 only like a week old never used...

Chris
94 Integra

Maxvla

03-14-2002, 11:36 PM

whats the power rating on that amp. and look for the RMS rating. max power means nothing, really.

Accord Man

03-15-2002, 10:55 AM

4 channel amps pwerform very poorly on subs.

You'll need 400 w rms to EACH sub! If you're planning to feed 200w rms to each subs, you are aiming for the wrong ones.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-15-2002, 02:25 PM

wat does 400w rms's mean?> hah sorry i am new to some of this stuff... well wont i need a 4 channel if i am going to run 3 12's possibly? i know that 400 wont hold then up unless i get another one... and i dont really want to pass on this amp cause if i go with Pioneer i want al pioneer stuff like amps cd player ECT. but i duno aout Kicker there si a dealer in Canton Horizon Audio and they carry everything and i am goin ot make a trip up there to see how much they are up there...

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Accord Man

03-15-2002, 02:40 PM

When you looks at the specs you'll see 2 ratings, one is RMS (can play conitnuously) and max (for a short burst)..

So make sure you look at the RMS figure.

You wanna keep it all Pioneer? Thats not a very good strategy. Pioneer is good for some stuff, and less god for other things.

3 subs?? Dude if you're going with CompVR's try to figure out how you'll power 1-2 subs.
1 subs = 400 watts rms
2 subs = 800 watts rms

And nope, a 4 channel amp is not meant for that type of application. Its meant for 4 interior speakers.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-15-2002, 03:25 PM

ok got ya... Well i like Pioneer some wat i have alwasy loved there speakers like there 6X9's. i got a set of 5/1/2's in just last week and mae a world of a difference insdie of the car. well i duno if i am going ot get kickers or not.. if i get kickers then i will only go with 2 cause of so much power but it just depends on wat i go with u know wat i mean?

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Accord Man

03-15-2002, 07:58 PM

ya sure..

Let me just add another little thing.. For speakers,subs and amps, you cannot compare kicker with pioneer..

The difference is especially apparent when it comes to subs and amps..

Maxvla

03-15-2002, 09:49 PM

very true accord man.

dont really think about each sub gets one channel.

i have a mono sub amp on two subs and it pounds my daylights out. of course i have very efficient subs so i can get away with it. 93 instead of most kickers are about 88-89. which doesnt mean mine are better they just use power better.

400W rms is alot of power. you don't hafta look quite that high to get good sound out of either xpl's or compvrs. but you should get at least 250W. the rms rating on each of those speakers is xpl-500W compvr- about 400 (i think, dont remember)
so you really don't need to push the limits.
as long as you get at least half the rms number you will get good sound. power is expensive.

if any professionals are reading this forget what i said. what i said is for people who don't have a lot of cash. like me!

Accord Man

03-16-2002, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
very true accord man.

dont really think about each sub gets one channel.

i have a mono sub amp on two subs and it pounds my daylights out. of course i have very efficient subs so i can get away with it. 93 instead of most kickers are about 88-89. which doesnt mean mine are better they just use power better.

400W rms is alot of power. you don't hafta look quite that high to get good sound out of either xpl's or compvrs. but you should get at least 250W. the rms rating on each of those speakers is xpl-500W compvr- about 400 (i think, dont remember)
so you really don't need to push the limits.
as long as you get at least half the rms number you will get good sound. power is expensive.

if any professionals are reading this forget what i said. what i said is for people who don't have a lot of cash. like me!

Are you nuts?? :crazy: j/k

For certain subs I can agree that you should stay away from the rated peak rms (ex: Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony XPLOD, ect).

But others will suffocate at half the recommended wattage (ex: Orion, Kicker, DD, ect).

And the efficiency rating is a very poor way to judge an audio component..

In this industry there are no set guidlines as to how a manufacturer is supposed to test his products. Its common to have a sub that has 93db sin and one that has 86 db, and somehow the 86db sub is louder.
The main reason for this, is the fact that companies chose their own frequency to test. One did 93db at 90hz and the other did 86db at 35hz.. And the 93db did only 75db at 35hz (& and was about shredding), whereas the 86db sub did 115db at 90hz.
Do you get what I'm saying?

On top of that their is the environment it performs in.. We wont even go there.

Ah hell, let me throw one more thing at you .

If you want to calculate the efficiency of a sub..
For a percentage (%) :
no = K(fs^3Vas)/Qes
in which K= 9.94(10)^-10 for Vas in liters

For SPL :
1W/1M dB = 112 + 10log(base 10) * no

------------------------------------------------------------
Bottom line if you want good subs but wont be able to power them properly, chose another sub.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-17-2002, 09:08 PM

Alrgiht well thanx again i am going up in 2 weeks to a big Audio store In Canton and they carry everything.. so i am going to check on the Kicker XPL's and the Comp's. and i am going to check on that amp this week for wat u guys told me to check on..

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Maxvla

03-18-2002, 12:54 AM

make sure you look at the comp "VR" subs... the regular comp speakers arent what you are looking for.

just a little technical clarification that may help you in the long run.

>>Later>>

Quist

03-20-2002, 11:04 PM

OK everyone is probably done reading this post but.....

IF YOU WANT MASSIVE BASS and I mean huge bass go with AlumaPro. You may not have heard of it anywhere but it is a fairly new company. A friend of mine bought 1 12" in a ported box for $300(lowest model). It hits harder then any other sub I have ever heard of.

Amazing quality and sound.

Check them out, hope that helps

Ryan

Maxvla

03-20-2002, 11:56 PM

yeah alumapro's are cool but a bit over budget here.
thanks for the input though!

>>Later>>

Azkikr111

03-23-2002, 07:39 PM

well, while were goin off subject, anyone have any advice for me for an inexpensive new 600watt bridgable amp that will last?

my subs only handle 250 rms so i wouldnt be pushing the amp to max, i just want something thats has the power to get me thumpin (im sick and tired of my sh!tty kenwood constantly cutting out on me, im just gunna give it away) :-P

(inexpensive < $140)

thanks

Maxvla

03-23-2002, 08:16 PM

you will be hard pressed to find ANY 600W amp for less than 140.
minimum 250. but keep looking you might just find one.

Accord Man

03-24-2002, 09:12 AM

oh boy.. thats gonna be hard to find..

For good and not too expensive look into autotek, ample & JBL.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-25-2002, 11:40 AM

Alrgiht thanx for the info.. i am going up to Canton tomrrow to look around and i will let u know wat i find out...

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Maxvla

03-26-2002, 03:32 AM

good luck. and happy beating.
im sure you will but... tell us what you decided on! we can't do all that "work" and not hear the fruits of our labor! haha.

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-28-2002, 12:26 PM

well heres wat i found out...
i found out the Kicker XPL's are disconntinued so that counts them out.
and i got a package deal that will blow u outs the world.
2 Kicker CompVR's 12's with a kicker 800 watt amp and a box for aroud $730

then i got another one.
3 Pioneer 12's a box and a 2 channell amp and a 4 channell amp for around $600

Accord Man

03-28-2002, 12:29 PM

which kicker amp exactly??

C's 94 InTeGrA

03-28-2002, 05:49 PM

um i think a 400 watt amp is wat the guy aid that would do good... he didint say which one i know it has that many watts..

wat do u think is best price.. i think i might just get them kickers and then get a cheaper amp with the other place that has them 3 12's and get one there cheaper

C's 94 InTeGrA

04-02-2002, 03:20 PM

Well i am going to get the 3 12's. The Pioneer Dual voiced coils ones they are rated 700watts each. i just bought a amp for $140 its a 4 channel 760watts. i am going down to pick it up tonight. Also i am going to pick up a Pioneer 9300 cd player with it. But thanx for all ur help to all who has gave me advice like Accord Man and whoever else but thanx again. i duno wat i would be getting myself into without u guys. :D

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Accord Man

04-02-2002, 05:15 PM

Your very welcome!

But hold on dude..

you are getting a 4 channel amp to power your subs?

C's 94 InTeGrA

04-02-2002, 08:10 PM

yes and a 2 channel also.... haha i cant run 3 12's and one amp...
that would be stupid

Accord Man

04-02-2002, 09:04 PM

its more than possible to run 3 subs off one channel!
Thats how most guys will do it..

you might want to post what exactly you are about to buy.. which models..

from what it sounds like, you are about to make a humungoloid mistake..

C's 94 InTeGrA

04-03-2002, 11:02 AM

Ok ill put up wat i am buying i am at school right now..

C's 94 InTeGrA

04-03-2002, 09:22 PM

Ok.. heres wat i am getting:
I am getting 3 of these:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/Images/CarProduct/tsw3041dvc.jpg
dual voice coiled and there rated 800 watts each

Here is the amp i am getting:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/Images/CarProduct2002/GM-X56.jpg
Its a 2 channel 300 watt and i am using that to power my door speakers and my panel speakers.Continuous Power (14.4V): 65Wx2 (4 ohm), 75Wx2 (2 ohm), 150Wx1 (4 ohm)
Max Power (14.4V): 130Wx2 (4 ohm), 300Wx1 (4 ohm)
Frequency Response: 10Hz - 50kHz (0,-1dB)
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.008% (1kHz, 4W)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 100dB (IHF-A)

then my other amp i cant get a pic of it.. its the older verson of the amp.. but here are the specs:
4 channel 760 watts of power
its the GM- X554 if that helps lol...

So thats wat i am geting and i hope that helps Accord man